Worries About MF 5400 Series

mikefoxo

I've noticed a lately that there are a lot of 5400 series tractors for sale - a couple of years old and (mostly) with less than 5000 hours. Surely they can't all be trading in for a new one? Are people having problems with them once they get over a certain age?

bob charles

mikefoxo wrote: »

I've noticed a lately that there are a lot of 5400 series tractors for sale - a couple of years old and (mostly) with less than 5000 hours. Surely they can't all be trading in for a new one? Are people having problems with them once they get over a certain age?

0% finance packages on the new ones, good farming year last year when they were traded in. Probably not moving now as most farming is gone tits up. Pretty bulletproof tractor and easy to work on. I have a 07 one with nearly 8k hrs and no real problems as yet. Any tractor one 5k hrs will start to have problems at some stage, you have to factor this into purchase price

Figerty

What kind of money are they making?

mikefoxo

I've seen a few in the Farmers Trader looking for between £20k-28k. I thought they were finding some problems and shifting them but perhaps not

bob charles

mikefoxo wrote: »

I've seen a few in the Farmers Trader looking for between £20k-28k. I thought they were finding some problems and shifting them but perhaps not

if you are talking about the UK then that a different picture, tax allowances on machinery changed last spring so there were allot of tractors traded AFAIK for tax reasons only. just under 5000hr is a popular junction to trade a tractor as its perceived after this point repair bill may start to creep up. you pays your money and takes your chances when buying secondhand

vanderbadger

bob charles wrote: »

0% finance packages on the new ones, good farming year last year when they were traded in. Probably not moving now as most farming is gone tits up. Pretty bulletproof tractor and easy to work on. I have a 07 one with nearly 8k hrs and no real problems as yet. Any tractor one 5k hrs will start to have problems at some stage, you have to factor this into purchase price

jees you must never come down off it, thats fair old hrs to be clocking

kevthegaff

vanderbadger wrote: »

jees you must never come down off it, thats fair old hrs to be clocking

i was thinking the same meself:eek:, i have only 3500 hours on me 110 90 since new 13 yrs ago(the fiats clock slower tho) U must be contracting?

49801

kevthegaff wrote: »

i was thinking the same meself:eek:, i have only 3500 hours on me 110 90 since new 13 yrs ago(the fiats clock slower tho) U must be contracting?

no he's just always catting around the yard in it while on boards:pac:

bob charles

vanderbadger wrote: »

jees you must never come down off it, thats fair old hrs to be clocking

1400 a year, no contracting, no point having them if you don't use them, mainly feeding animals,fert,topping and its spread slurry, everything else is done by contractors. suppose does 2 - 3 hrs everyday hopefully take it to 15k hrs min. clock hrs nowadays go up so fast as its a real time clock, wonder how many of those hrs are for tick over:(, thankfully I don't do all the hrs but probably a thousand, hate tractor driving

grumpyfarmer

Alot of the earlier models, pre 2006, with a manual shuttle gave problems with the factory fitted dry clutch going very quick but most were replace under warranty.. but it gave massey the excuse not to offer a manual shuttle on anything except the smaller 3600 series anymore..

DMAXMAN

i know of a 5455 that was bought brand new and cooked the back end in two days and still has problems with over heating in the back end. tractor often has to be let cool while working

Figerty

DMAXMAN wrote: »

i know of a 5455 that was bought brand new and cooked the back end in two days and still has problems with over heating in the back end. tractor often has to be let cool while working

Wrong oil in the back end maybe?

DMAXMAN

came from a main dealers and was taken back in for repair straight away,but still a problem 2 years on.if it was mine i would not have taken it back from the garage

pakalasa

What causes a backend to overheat?

jimmy G M

pakalasa wrote: »

What causes a backend to overheat?

We have a MF 4255, bought in April. 1st day out doing some topping I noticed the back end was getting hot - you could feel the heat coming in when back window was opened. Back end around axle was hot to touch. You wouldn't leave your hand on it for more than 5 secs. Spoke to dealer we bought off - said it's a feature of the tractor and nothing to worry about.

Spoke to a neighbour who had a similar tractor some years ago - he had the same hot back end issue.

Now the tractor is performing fine but I just feel a little uncomfortable the way it gets hot so it would be great if someone can give an answer to Pakalasa question above. Thx.

Pakalasa do you have a MF with back end heating up? We also have a MF 390T and you could drive it all day and no hot back end.

pakalasa

jimmy G M wrote: »

......Pakalasa do you have a MF with back end heating up? ......

No, I don't. I've heard it mentioned on here a few times about tractors overheating at the back end. I'm just curious as to what's causing it.
I work with industrial hydraulics a bit and I know if a pressure relief valve is continuosly working, it will heat the oil in no time. I wonder could this be the cause. It doesn't have to a be a relief valve either, just an internal leak of high pressure somewhere. Laws of physics really, the energy has to go somewhere - it goes into heat.

bob charles

AFAIK all the 5400 series run as normal with a hot back end. you lads mustn't be used to putting your hands often on hot back ends

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jimmy G M wrote: »

We have a MF 4255, bought in April. 1st day out doing some topping I noticed the back end was getting hot - you could feel the heat coming in when back window was opened. Back end around axle was hot to touch. You wouldn't leave your hand on it for more than 5 secs. Spoke to dealer we bought off - said it's a feature of the tractor and nothing to worry about.

Spoke to a neighbour who had a similar tractor some years ago - he had the same hot back end issue.

Now the tractor is performing fine but I just feel a little uncomfortable the way it gets hot so it would be great if someone can give an answer to Pakalasa question above. Thx.

Pakalasa do you have a MF with back end heating up? We also have a MF 390T and you could drive it all day and no hot back end.

we have had a 4245 for 8 years, the back end has never got noticeably hot, even after a few hours topping, or hours of loader work. I know what you mean by opening the back window and getting a burst of hot air, I used to drive a lot of NH 8360s and TM140s, their back end got very hot. Our 4245 is nothing like it though.