New TV3 Programme 'The Estate' in Ballybeg

iseegirls

From TV3's Autumn Press Release today:

The Estate: which follows the lives of six families filmed over six months in Ballybeg Waterford.

Does anyone have any more details? Should be an interesting watch. Wonder have they started filming already.

mike65

Oh boy Billy McCarthty's phone lines are gonna be burning tomorrow!

membersonly

An entire series based in Waterford? I suppose that puts the whole argument about Waterford being ignored by national broadcasters to bed anyway, thank God!

wellboytoo

Lovely just what we need another reality show,Christ on a bicycle where will they go with this sh1t eventually

old gregg

So true. There's few things on tv as bad as a reality show. Cheap television to make, just round up a bunch of attention seekers and stick a camera on them. About as dumb as it gets. As for TV3? Garbage. This show will not further our case in any way.

nkay1985

We don't get to showcase our wonderful history or all the positive things that are going on in the city. No, we get to have god knows what shown. The kind if people who volunteer for programmed like this will rarely put our best foot forward. I hope I'm wrong.

JenniFurr

If they do have people of course it'll be a gypsy wedding type of affair. If it has a serious side I think it'd make a good watch though.

ChunkyNorris

You must be mistaken, this must have been in Dublin or Galway.

Tv3 don't even know Waterford exists.

TheGormog

The last reality TV series shot in these parts was in a cargo container on the quay.

fricatus

membersonly wrote: »

An entire series based in Waterford? I suppose that puts the whole argument about Waterford being ignored by national broadcasters to bed anyway, thank God!

Hmmm... hard to tell whether you're being ironic there or not! :pac:

Either way, I doubt this programme intends to paint Ballybeg or Waterford generally in any sort of positive light. I fear it will be all chicken ranch, Yellow House and burnt-out cars rather than the solid, decent, loyal and well-behaved community that 95% of Ballybeg is

Hopefully I'll be proved wrong when they're all shown eating seafood in Dunmore, visiting the Viking Triangle, butterin' blaas, having a quiet pint in Downes's, etc.

mike65

What the fupp? Where's Billy? I want my outrage!

Professey Chin

I have a bad feeling about this......

fricatus

The Irish Times has an article today about TV3's upcoming schedule, and the programme is described as "a hard-hitting, three- part tale of deprivation in The Estate, set in Ballybeg on the outskirts of Waterford"

So no Medieval Museum, Bishop's Palace or La Boheme then... :rolleyes:

membersonly

fricatus wrote: »

The Irish Times has an article today about TV3's upcoming schedule, and the programme is described as "a hard-hitting, three- part tale of deprivation in The Estate, set in Ballybeg on the outskirts of Waterford"

So no Medieval Museum, Bishop's Palace or La Boheme then... :rolleyes:

Why would they feature in a series about a housing estate?

TheGormog

fricatus wrote: »

The programme is described as "a hard-hitting, three- part tale of deprivation in The Estate, set in Ballybeg on the outskirts of Waterford"

Sounds much akin to the BBC's controversial series 'The Scheme' which was shot in Kilmarnock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xan2xU-ZFic&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Poverty porn!

fricatus

fricatus wrote: »

So no Medieval Museum, Bishop's Palace or La Boheme then... :rolleyes:

membersonly wrote: »

Why would they feature in a series about a housing estate?

The hint is in the smiley... I was being ironic.

Of course they wouldn't feature, but with all the giving out we've done lately on this forum about "Creedon's Cities" leaving Waterford out, and now we have a whole series to ourselves... we should be careful what we wish for next time! :rolleyes:

As TheGormog said "poverty porn". Seems we're not good enough for Creedon to deign to come down here and make a programme, yet where to TV3 go to get their fix of deprivation? Not Galway, that's for sure...

ziedth

If done right and showing the effects or the recession,drugs or whatever it could be an interesting Show but as mentioned above I have a feeling it's going to go down the big fat gypsy wedding route.

If anything I can't wait for the thread on here when it's on...

S28382

ziedth wrote: »

If done right and showing the effects or the recession,drugs or whatever it could be an interesting Show but as mentioned above I have a feeling it's going to go down the big fat gypsy wedding route.

If anything I can't wait for the thread on here when it's on...

Why does it have to be about drugs or the big fat gypsy wedding in order to be interesting?

nkay1985

ziedth wrote: »

If done right and showing the effects or the recession,drugs or whatever it could be an interesting Show but as mentioned above I have a feeling it's going to go down the big fat gypsy wedding route.

If anything I can't wait for the thread on here when it's on...

The fact that it's TV3 almost guarantees that it's going to be lowest common denominator stuff, doesn't it?

But you're right, the thread here should be a cracker!

Jason Todd

I think I'll be washing my hair that night :rolleyes::p

Not The Real Scarecrow

Any word on who the families are?

ziedth

S28382 wrote: »

Why does it have to be about drugs or the big fat gypsy wedding in order to be interesting?

A documentary on drug addiction and it's effects on families would be interesting I didn't say that it had to be about Drug addiction to be interesting.

For example my favourite documentary ever made is about a guy trying to break a donkey Kong video game record (King of Kong, if you haven't seen it check it out)

S28382

ziedth wrote: »

A documentary on drug addiction and it's effects on families would be interesting I didn't say that it had to be about Drug addiction to be interesting.

For example my favourite documentary ever made is about a guy trying to break a donkey Kong video game record (King of Kong, if you haven't seen it check it out)

Do you think that if the documentary was in any other housing estate that may seem more well off then Ballybeg that you would of mentioned anything about gypsy weddings or drugs?

mike65

I think ziedth is commenting on the TV3 mentality, not his own views of Ballybeg.

ziedth

mike65 wrote: »

I think ziedth is commenting on the TV3 mentality, not his own views of Ballybeg.

This I'm afraid.

JenniFurr

ziedth wrote: »

For example my favourite documentary ever made is about a guy trying to break a donkey Kong video game record (King of Kong, if you haven't seen it check it out)

King of Kong is great! But sadly the main protagonist lost his title a few weeks after filming to the "evil" Billy Mitchell (not from Eastenders).

I really do hope the documentary shows both average people and the affects that a few nasty people who live there have had on them. Went to school with a lot of Ballybeg students who had awful home lives because of widow breakings, attempted arson etc. due to them being of a different race, religion, and so on. I'd be guilty of wanting a name and shame documentary. Not the thing to promote the area I know but I don't think it'll will be regardless of the angle.

ziedth

JenniFurr wrote: »

King of Kong is great! But sadly the main protagonist lost his title a few weeks after filming to the "evil" Billy Mitchell (not from Eastenders).

Ya, I think a different fella altogether beat the record since but i remember actually cheering at the end of it. It really is brilliant, it really shows how a documentary doesn't need shock content or controversy to be entertaining.

TV3 and CH4 could learn a thing or two from it.

Minister

TheGormog wrote: »

The last reality TV series shot in these parts was in a cargo container on the quay.

...............In 1978!!!!!!!!!! - Allegedly

MaxSteele

If it's another cringy secret millionaire, junkie sob story doc I think I'll give it a pass.

Of course being TV3, Ballybeg (which looks like any other normal, working class estate) will be over exaggerated as some sort of ghetto slum like 8 Mile in Detroit.

Malown

Ballybeg is boring. Would rather see a doc. about half my class in school living out the Dunmore Road, in negative equity, on the dole, wives now fat, and they can't get visas for Australia.

Funfair

Maybe it will only be a cartoon.....

(Warning:Contains strong language. Viewer discretion advised).

Luckycharms_74

ziedth wrote: »

For example my favourite documentary ever made is about a guy trying to break a donkey Kong video game record (King of Kong, if you haven't seen it check it out)

Zeidth

I just checked out that "King of Kong". Its pretty cool. The guy Steve Wiebe seemed a nice guy. On the other hand Billy Mitchell (Who was a total pr1ck) and his drones especially thay guy Brian Kuh were douchebags

7upfree

membersonly wrote: »

An entire series based in Waterford? I suppose that puts the whole argument about Waterford being ignored by national broadcasters to bed anyway, thank God!

Except for the publicly funded one.

Media999

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Zeidth

I just checked out that "King of Kong". Its pretty cool. The guy Steve Wiebe seemed a nice guy. On the other hand Billy Mitchell (Who was a total pr1ck) and his drones especially thay guy Brian Kuh were douchebags

If you think thats good check out : Exit Through the Gift Shop

Another really good documentary

JenniFurr

ziedth wrote: »

Ya, I think a different fella altogether beat the record since but i remember actually cheering at the end of it. It really is brilliant, it really shows how a documentary doesn't need shock content or controversy to be entertaining.

TV3 and CH4 could learn a thing or two from it.

Sorry to be getting off topic but you should check out "Chasing Ghosts: Beyond the Arcade" if you haven't already. It has many of the same people filmed after King of Kong.

Professey Chin

JenniFurr wrote: »

Sorry to be getting off topic but you should check out "Chasing Ghosts: Beyond the Arcade" if you haven't already. It has many of the same people filmed after King of Kong.

Great documentary aswell

ComfyKnickers

Oh the threads on this show are gonna be epic, can't fecking wait!!!!

funk junky

Hey guys just wondering if anyone knows when this show is meant to start. I'm in London at the mo but will get someone to record it for me

ziedth

funk junky wrote: »

Hey guys just wondering if anyone knows when this show is meant to start. I'm in London at the mo but will get someone to record it for me

From September till November is usually the Autumn Schedule IIRC, keep an eye on the forum here I'm sure we'll have a thread up with plenty of time to spare.

iseegirls

ziedth wrote: »

funk junky wrote: »

Hey guys just wondering if anyone knows when this show is meant to start. I'm in London at the mo but will get someone to record it for me

From September till November is usually the Autumn Schedule IIRC, keep an eye on the forum here I'm sure we'll have a thread up with plenty of time to spare.

I wouldn't really say that it'll just be between those 3 months. Tv3 autumn schedule is really for their next 12 months of programming. There were a lot of programmes in the 2011 launch that weren't shown at all and were again talked about in the 2012 launch.

They prob didn't have time to slot them in inbetween such hardhitting documentaries like 'Ireland's worst roads'.

darylryan

S28382 wrote: »

Do you think that if the documentary was in any other housing estate that may seem more well off then Ballybeg that you would of mentioned anything about gypsy weddings or drugs?

WAS JUST DOING A BIT OF RESEARCH ABOUT THE PROGRAMMES " THE EDGE OF TOWN " FEATURING BALLYBEG. AND CAME ACROSS THIS FORUM.
CAN I BE THE FIRST TO ACTUALY DEFEND THIS PROGRAMME AND BALLYBEG. I AM ACTUALY ONE OF THE RESEARCH ASSISTANTS AND EDITORS FOR THE SERIES. I AM ASLO FROM BALLYBEG. THE SHOW IS ACTUALY BASED MAINLY ON FOLOWING FAMILIES WITH DIFFERENT STRUGGLES. - FOR EXAMPLE ONE YOUNG SINGLE MOTHER WHO GOT LEFT GO FROM HER JOB AND HER EFFORTS TO SECURE EMPLOYMENT TO KEEP HER AND HER DAUGHTER IN CLOTHES FOOD AND SHELTER. ANOTHER STORY ABOUT A FAMILY WHO HAS A YOUNG BOY WITH A RARE DISABILITY AND THEIR STRUGGLES AND BATTLES WITH THE CITY COUNCIL TO GET PROPER ACCOMADATION FOR HIM. THE PROGRAMME IS ACTUALLY ABOUT THE POSSITIVES MORE SO THAN THE NEGATIVES AND IS ACTUALY NOTHING TO DO WITH DRUGS AND SUCH LIKE THIS. FOR ONCE A SHOW IS ACTUALY FEATURING BALLYBEG FOR ALL THE POSSITIVE THINGS AND NOT THE SMALL BAD THINGS. -- RANT OVER .. THANKS FOR READING

Bards

darylryan wrote: »

WAS JUST DOING A BIT OF RESEARCH ABOUT THE PROGRAMMES " THE EDGE OF TOWN " FEATURING BALLYBEG. AND CAME ACROSS THIS FORUM.
CAN I BE THE FIRST TO ACTUALY DEFEND THIS PROGRAMME AND BALLYBEG. I AM ACTUALY ONE OF THE RESEARCH ASSISTANTS AND EDITORS FOR THE SERIES. I AM ASLO FROM BALLYBEG. THE SHOW IS ACTUALY BASED MAINLY ON FOLOWING FAMILIES WITH DIFFERENT STRUGGLES. - FOR EXAMPLE ONE YOUNG SINGLE MOTHER WHO GOT LEFT GO FROM HER JOB AND HER EFFORTS TO SECURE EMPLOYMENT TO KEEP HER AND HER DAUGHTER IN CLOTHES FOOD AND SHELTER. ANOTHER STORY ABOUT A FAMILY WHO HAS A YOUNG BOY WITH A RARE DISABILITY AND THEIR STRUGGLES AND BATTLES WITH THE CITY COUNCIL TO GET PROPER ACCOMADATION FOR HIM. THE PROGRAMME IS ACTUALLY ABOUT THE POSSITIVES MORE SO THAN THE NEGATIVES AND IS ACTUALY NOTHING TO DO WITH DRUGS AND SUCH LIKE THIS. FOR ONCE A SHOW IS ACTUALY FEATURING BALLYBEG FOR ALL THE POSSITIVE THINGS AND NOT THE SMALL BAD THINGS. -- RANT OVER .. THANKS FOR READING

maybe you could find the Caps-Lock on your keyboard, turn it off, and perhaps re-write the above so it is easier to read?

barney 20v

Bards wrote: »

maybe you could find the Caps-Lock on your keyboard, turn it off, and perhaps re-write the above so it is easier to read?

Yea because that is WAY more important than the content of the post!:rolleyes:
I found it easy to read.....another backseat mod eh?

As someone from another southeast county i am aware of the alleged negitive reputation that Ballybeg has.
I for one will be tuning in to see TV3's version of the truth.

ziedth

darylryan wrote: »

WAS JUST DOING A BIT OF RESEARCH ABOUT THE PROGRAMMES " THE EDGE OF TOWN " FEATURING BALLYBEG. AND CAME ACROSS THIS FORUM.
CAN I BE THE FIRST TO ACTUALY DEFEND THIS PROGRAMME AND BALLYBEG. I AM ACTUALY ONE OF THE RESEARCH ASSISTANTS AND EDITORS FOR THE SERIES. I AM ASLO FROM BALLYBEG. THE SHOW IS ACTUALY BASED MAINLY ON FOLOWING FAMILIES WITH DIFFERENT STRUGGLES. - FOR EXAMPLE ONE YOUNG SINGLE MOTHER WHO GOT LEFT GO FROM HER JOB AND HER EFFORTS TO SECURE EMPLOYMENT TO KEEP HER AND HER DAUGHTER IN CLOTHES FOOD AND SHELTER. ANOTHER STORY ABOUT A FAMILY WHO HAS A YOUNG BOY WITH A RARE DISABILITY AND THEIR STRUGGLES AND BATTLES WITH THE CITY COUNCIL TO GET PROPER ACCOMADATION FOR HIM. THE PROGRAMME IS ACTUALLY ABOUT THE POSSITIVES MORE SO THAN THE NEGATIVES AND IS ACTUALY NOTHING TO DO WITH DRUGS AND SUCH LIKE THIS. FOR ONCE A SHOW IS ACTUALY FEATURING BALLYBEG FOR ALL THE POSSITIVE THINGS AND NOT THE SMALL BAD THINGS. -- RANT OVER .. THANKS FOR READING

If that's the case I'll be delighted. Those two examples are the kind of stories I was hoping for. Because if edited in the right way I'd say they could make most city estates look like 8 mile road. Have you got an Air date yet?

And welcome to boards

BIG-SLICK-POKER

One of the lads was interviewed this week at his house , He Said they are portraying ballybeg very badly and asking he lives here day to day . He also said they went to a house for an interview and were told that the camera would be rammed up there arse if come near them with the camera and the Cameramen said they were recording and will show the footage

shebzie

What date is this show starting i caint find any info on it.

darylryan

iseegirls wrote: »

From TV3's Autumn Press Release today:


Does anyone have any more details? Should be an interesting watch. Wonder have they started filming already.

Yes they have been filiming since june and will continue to film until febuary.

darylryan

shebzie wrote: »

What date is this show starting i caint find any info on it.

not sure of exact dates yet. but it will be aired for march or april .. all going well dat is.

iseegirls

Just seen that The Estate will start on Monday 8th April at 9pm.

Taken from digiguide:

Join us as real life unfolds across this brand new three-part rollercoaster series on TV3. This ambitious, observational documentary is located in Ballybeg, a sprawling housing estate on the outskirts of Waterford City with a tough reputation. Filmed over a year, cameras go behind closed doors and watch as residents live out their everyday lives, coping with the harsh reality of life's twists and turns, moments of triumph and despair, yet still looking beyond the boundaries of the estate and seeking out opportunities that might bring a brighter future. Episode one spends time with fun loving Shauna (21), a young single Mum who is struggling to pay the bills. Having missed out on further education, due to motherhood, Shauna is coming to terms with the harsh reality of being a single parent and having to stand on her own two feet.

CorkGirl90

The Estate is starting monday night (8th April) does anyone know if this will be repeated any other night during the week please??

maltese falcon11

This was filmed there recently: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpzlauLfBSE