National guild of master craftsmen?

jakko86

Hi guys iv been approached by a rep from the guild asking me was i interested in joining the guild which costs 295 plus vat and a yearly cost after of 195 plus vat/year, Im just wondering what other tradesmens experiences are and whether ye got much work or benifit from it?From what i can gather any tom dick or harry can join once you get 5 references?

sas

I am on the customer side of the house.

While looking for a plumber last year, I was directed to the guilds master craftsmen site.

In my area there are 2 plumbers that my familly have had first hand experience with and wouldn't every deal with again. They were both on the guilds list.

Just my 2 cents worth...

snoopmadra

it's a racket!

jakko86

snoopmadra wrote: »

it's a racket!

Have you had experiences with the guild or a member, I dunno he gave me a big speil about allianz ins joining them and age action ireland which he described as 'exciting'?

Carpenter

They are a joke ask yourself why would they ASK you to join (no insult by the way on yourself ) but they will take anyone all they want is your cash .

kkelliher

snoopmadra wrote: »

it's a racket!

more of a "boys club".........

I dont know of too many members of associations (I include them all) who would be able to state what been a member has done for them.

jakko86

kkelliher wrote: »

more of a "boys club".........

I dont know of too many members of associations (I include them all) who would be able to state what been a member has done for them.

Ya thats what i thought i looked into some of the tradesmen on the site i knew a few from my area and some are not qualified at all and a far cry from a 'master craftsman'.

robinod180

Has much changed since then as I joined over 2months ago as I got asked to join before Xmas. I joined on the strength of him telling me that I would get a lot of insurance work from being a member. I still haven't received anything from them but when I rang I was told that because I am paying in installments I wouldn't be a recognised member until after the 5th month. This means that I will only get 7months membership after paying for 12. I was not told this would be the case when I signed up. I was told no money would be taken until I was an approved member,2 payments are gone already!! I am having my suspicions now and not 1 call yet. Should I try to get my money back?

galwaytt

Imho, it's a racket, period.

I had the misfortune of engaging someone from that 'guild' a number of years ago. Long story short it ended up in acrimony, court and someone folding their tent and leaving me swinging in the wind with an awful lot of rework.........

The only guilding going on there is their bank accounts tbh........

martinn123

There are loads of, Web-sites, Associations, Guilds, etc, etc, guaranteeing you work, on payment of a Membership Fee.

My response is .....I will pay the Fee in 3 instalments....from the income from the first 3 jobs you get me.

Never see them again.

topcatcbr

I agree with the above sentiment but I think its a real shame as I like the idea. If they vetted their members better I might consider joining them. As it I think it carries less weight than a national trades cert or C&G trade cert.

jakko86

Ya as the original poster I'm glad I didn't join I looked into there members and saw a few members that I had to laugh at as "master craftsmen" after that and the advice of people here I gave it a miss and glad i did!

john doe 11

Hi Guys. Im a member of the national guild. And I agree with yous all. There a scam. Money racket. Take money from your account without permission and dont give you any work. My advice stay clear. I only use them for the cert and van stickers. Other than that your wasting a lot of money

john doe 11

Hi guys. Update for you. I paid my renewal 2 months ago with them for 240 only to be suspended a week after paying due to scandalous complaint from 1 customer. Lesson to be learned - pay with credit card and get it chargeback when they act the ballox with you. Wish yous all the best - National Guild me ballox. Stay clear

martinn123

john doe 11 wrote: »

Hi Guys. Im a member of the national guild. And I agree with yous all. There a scam. Money racket. Take money from your account without permission and dont give you any work. My advice stay clear. I only use them for the cert and van stickers. Other than that your wasting a lot of money

john doe 11 wrote:

Hi guys. Update for you. I paid my renewal 2 months ago with them for 240 only to be suspended a week after paying due to scandalous complaint from 1 customer. Lesson to be learned - pay with credit card and get it chargeback when they act the ballox with you. Wish yous all the best - National Guild me ballox. Stay clear

Did they ask for the Van stickers back,:rolleyes:

robinod180

I sent in a long email to officially cancel my membership and ask for a refund. Since March, not a single phone call about work.

Not 1 phone call or email in response to my email. Typical

mikom

martinn123 wrote: »

Did they ask for the Van stickers back,:rolleyes:

The craftsmen manufacturing the stickers are doing well I hear...........

DOCARCH

Mod Note: I have deleted a number of posts for everybody's sake. Please...no more libellous discussions.

john doe 11

DOCARCH wrote: »

Mod Note: I have deleted a number of posts for everybody's sake. Please...no more libellous discussions.

Libellous ? Its facts

DOCARCH

john doe 11 wrote: »

Libellous ? Its facts

....in your opinion.

john doe 11

DOCARCH wrote: »

....in your opinion.

Seems like everyone on here has the same opion as do Aib bank............

BryanF

john doe 11 wrote: »

Seems like everyone on here has the same opion as do Aib bank............

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john doe 11

No probs thanks

pistolslapper

Met with [snip] today. Real smooth and hooked me right in. Looks like I'll be cancelling the card in the morn. Was looking into ciri but that's the bones of €800. Is there any need to have a company say your a competent tradesman. I like the idea but I'll let my work do the convincing I'd say.

john doe 11

pistolslapper wrote: »

Met with [snip] today. Real smooth and hooked me right in. Looks like I'll be cancelling the card in the morn. Was looking into ciri but that's the bones of €800. Is there any need to have a company say your a competent tradesman. I like the idea but I'll let my work do the convincing I'd say.

Mate cancel straight away - highly advised. Ive just received chargeback on my card

pistolslapper

john doe 11 wrote: »

Mate cancel straight away - highly advised. Ive just received chargeback on my card

Cancelled it already. I'd be gutted if he took my last €25 off me. At least he bought me a coffee ;-)

john doe 11

pistolslapper wrote: »

Cancelled it already. I'd be gutted if he took my last €25 off me. At least he bought me a coffee ;-)

Ha ha. You did right thing believe me. I want everyone who can be fooled by these to get the right info on it

Xtraroom

hi Lads,
I was just goggling the Guild looking for some info etc and came across your comments on Boards. I thought thank god
im not the only one of who was taking in with this scam.. same crack calling to my door promising the job leads linked to major insurance company's etc.etc phoned him and got the usual ( your name is first in the list for work.. ill give u a call in a day or two..) . no call back and no job leads and now no answer to his phone.. I even emailed with no reply twice!! what can we do with this man ? small claims court ? is there any way we can all get together on this one ?

robinod180

I would be delighted to but I'm sure they have every angle covered! I still have received no response after all this time and I wanted a refund of the wasted money i handed over. Close to €600

Carpenter

robinod180 wrote: »

I would be delighted to but I'm sure they have every angle covered! I still have received no response after all this time and I wanted a refund of the wasted money i handed over. Close to €600

Do you mind me asking what the 600 was for .
They are a right shower when I went to DIT 1 of the teachers used to joke saying if we don't study hard we will end up joining the guild of master craftsmen to get work .

Xtraroom

small claims court seems to me the only way as far as I can see. I rang him a couple of times today. turned his phone off!! text him as well. took 600 off me as well. has to be a come back against this fella. wonder how many lads he said the same things to? took 5 months for my name on a list and a couple of stickers!!

Xtraroom

cant remember off the top ..there was a signing 250 ish on then the yearly then vat. worst thing is cant find any paper work on it!! searched high and low. even the stickers are gone:))

john doe 11

robinod180 wrote: »

I would be delighted to but I'm sure they have every angle covered! I still have received no response after all this time and I wanted a refund of the wasted money i handed over. Close to €600

Mate they got over 1000 from me over 2 year. Paid with credit card then cancelled throught credit card. -snip-

john doe 11

john doe 11 wrote: »

Mate they got over 1000 from me over 2 year. Paid with credit card then cancelled throught credit card. He is a scammer full stop

Mate get onto your bank asap. How did you pay

john doe 11

Xtraroom wrote: »

small claims court seems to me the only way as far as I can see. I rang him a couple of times today. turned his phone off!! text him as well. took 600 off me as well. has to be a come back against this fella. wonder how many lads he said the same things to? took 5 months for my name on a list and a couple of stickers!!

I got refunded by my bank. There well aware of them. As are visa..........

BryanF

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