TV, Radio & New Media Broadcasting

hacx

Shall be starting this in september (Hopefully). What am I letting myself in for?

RabbleRouser2k

Hi Hacx,

First of all, I would tell you to switch to something else, either your second or third choice. The reason being is that I have just completed Multimedia there, a BA (Honours). And that is a good 4 years wasted out of my life. Go somewhere else, because that institute is a joke. It is nowhere near what it used to be. (This post will be long, so forgive me, but I hope you will understand why I am a bit 'hesitant', to say the least, to recommend the place).

In first year, Multimedia/ Music Tech/ TV Radio all do the same modules. This is to make sure that people have made the right choice regarding their course. (One can transfer from TV to Multimedia to Music Tech, or whichever way you choose. Music Tech generally stays where they are, in terms of their course.) Unfortunately, they are not entirely truthful regarding the modules, as I will detail further. Also, when I was there, we were one of the first years to experience semesterisation, which divided lecturers as the time for subjects is greatly reduced.

Okay. First year we ran into a lecturer who was meant to be teaching Information Technology.<mod snip> Every group complained about her, and she was not allowed teach for the rest of the semester. She still has her job there though.
You choose your modules for the following year, at the end of the current year. Yet you may not get the module you choose, despite it being in the prospectus.

The time I was there, I saw TV radio folk getting their modules changed without their knowledge. 3D animation was in the prospectus, but the TV radio group were not allowed do that module. This was in 2nd year, and one person who really wanted to do the subject, had to switch to Multimedia to do it, as well as doing a few modules extra. Brave soul he was, he did it.

The year below them, came back after summer, having chosen to do Media Graphics (Adobe Photoshop and Adobe Illustrator) yet this module was yanked without their knowledge, and instead they were put into photography. They vented their complaints to the Head of the Department, but were told 'They should be delighted with the facilities' for photography, a really poorly taught subject. Their names were even on the attendance list for the MG. The only thing is, photography is taught in FAS, by FAS, despite it being the college’s duty to do it. None of the college lecturers are involved in it. Without Media Graphics, they were not able to do After Effects in the final year, despite that also being in the prospectus.

TV Radio also had some awful luck with lecturers. In Third Year, the lecturer for dynamic websites stopped coming in to teach class. She would instead spend the entire time down in the canteen <mod snip>. After weeks of no classes, they were expected to complete a project, and had no clue what they were doing. They complained, she was suspended (escorted out by security on one occasion) and they got a month extension with a different lecturer in order to get the project finished. She is also still in the college.

My own experiences there were equally awful. Some lecturers were unable to teach a subject, so much so that some folks were teaching the lecturer how to do it. Some never helped, sometimes hindering. Claymation, as a module, was yanked on us. Folks, who did do the subject, TV Radio, also had to teach themselves. They got no help from the lecturer. He is the same for 3D and Flash animation. Just gives one notes, and that is it.

(I was lucky, I knew 3D by teaching myself years before. Ended up helping out folks in the module.)

<mod snip>

Every second project is a group project, and oft times you are dragging someone after you to make them work, and they are dragging your grade down immensely. Fourth year was hell, worse than the other years, because we were assured that we had the choice of an individual project, yet they were all group projects. Some were there just to fill out the year, yet took up a truckload of time. We, all of us, complained to the lecturers at the beginning of our final year that we were unsatisfied with the course. We were trained for nothing, and in some cases, taught outdated software that is no longer used. Yet they will continue to teach it because it means that lecturer has a job. There are 4, yes 4, good cameras in the college, a college of 3 500 pupils, yet they are ultra-protective of them. They have launched masters in creative media, but the brochure is not worth the paper it is printed on. They will not fulfil any of the promises, I guarantee it.

I am due to re-sit a project that was not correctly marked or looked at. I paid for the resit project, figuring I would get a pass degree and get out of there, yet a project brief I was due to receive in June, has, to this day, never turned up. I was told all I would have to wait is a few days. I called the college, and they told me the lecturer who was due to give me my brief, was on holiday. Any phone calls I made to him could not get through, at all. I paid over 100 euros for my resit, but never got the project spec. Now I want my money back, because I cannot have the project finished by September, as I have no requirements or brief. I am damned if I do, and damned if I don't.

The student's union there is equally inept. The lookout for number one, themselves, and nobody else. They insult those who question them as often they have no answers. The union is made up of a bunch of failed students who failed their exams, or not sat an exam in 3-4 years. They also published a completely idiotic email that was sent out last year saying that there was a genital warts epidemic in the college, and 1 in every 2 students had it. They also gave out false information as to how it is caught. This was merely weeks before the CAO was due to be sent out and it spread around the social networks like crazy (like the so-called epidemic). See below.

http://www.joe.ie/health-fitness/health-news/hogwarts-warning-of-genital-warts-epidemic-at-it-tralee-0010703-1

In short, don't go there. You will regret it immensely.

hacx

Thanks for the lengthy reply, but I remain cautiously optimistic.

RabbleRouser2k

Okay, but don't say I didn't warn you.

alleystar

Oh thanks for that two weeks before we start :rolleyes: I dunno what I'm getting myself into now. I dunno whether even to except the feckin' course today or what? You couldn't have informed us earlier, no? Why the hell then does everybody else recommend it? And I'm just after paying money for my feckin accomodation. What do I do????? I'm seriously confused after your post.

SwordSmith

Hello,
I have read this thread in full and i feel i could offer my assistance in a lot of regards to IT Tralee and college life as a whole. This will broken down into stages of short paragraphs but will give you an overall picture of life in college and life in Tralee aswell as the courses.

Like all people finishing their leaving cert there is a renewed hope and an expectation about college, that is, you think you are free to make your own decisions and that college is going to be great and fun, however while your parents my have less of a role in your education, you are very much left alone to screw up by yourself.

for example: you may think that your leaving cert was tough (and lets face it, it is) and now its done your worries have come to an end. This is not true in matter of fact it gets progressively worse. The reason why i state this is because unlike having to worry about teachers calling your parents, your lecturers will simply just issue letters at home asking you to de-register from college or if you are on a grant, you will find yourself short of payments for not being in college.

IT Tralee issues each student a T card (student card) this cards are used to "sign in" for each subject so the college can monitor your attendance and report any issues of not turning up.

Course layout:
It is important to understand one thing about your course before you go and do it. Consider it like the stocking fillings during christmas except its your education. You will have a lot of "pointless" subjects to do over your time in college, that will hold little to no relevance to what you want to do as a career, these subjects can be the likes of (personal communication, personal taxation, a foreign language, entrepreneurship etc.)
these modules can be chosen from, but other subjects may not and i have noted a lot of ticked off students about the relevance of certain subjects.

Lecturers and how they teach:
In a lot of the lectures i have been to, the lecturers may know some of the stuff, but they rely heavily on notes gained from the internet, or books in a library. The lecturers have a tendancy to ask students do there own work in finding the answers to solutions, without offering much in advice. So in other words you have to teach yourself in some parts, having personally been told in 3d animation when i was having an animation issue, "have you checked the internet for a solution, im sure you can find the solution there". There is much more of an expectation that with age, comes the need to teach yourself and do your own teaching.


Projects:
Each subject you are doing (sometimes not even in your prospectus, as its subject to change and availability (note the persons comments above )) will have a project sometimes several projects that need to be handed up, these projects may be group projects are time vampires, when you start your first year each lecturer is expecting a minimum of 2 hours per night on their subject of teaching (this is actually impossible, unless you have a cure sleep deprevation (that doesn't involve sleep)) and they expect good work turned up. Some of the projects can be due at the end of the 1st semester or the last semester, but you will need to budget your time well to insure each project and subject is getting equal attention.

Jobs and the future:
Unlike the student above me, i did a different course, Bsc in Computing with Games Development. While my course is not TV and radio or new Media, i lived with a student from that course and had heard the stories, but from my side people need to understand the opportunities they can avail of, when/if they finish college.

Getting a degree does not guarantee a job, in some cases it hinders it. In all job interviews i have been in regarding my field. I have been asked about my portfolio, what have i done since college etc. Most companies will not be satisfied by only the work done in college, but projects you do on your own and what you have thought yourself outside of college. So be aware that doing the bare minimum in college to get your degree wont guarantee you a job.

Sports, Night life, other stuff:
Okay, firstly i want to mention time management. When you are a college student you may want to booze up and go to a night club (Horans mainly but to be honest its not that great but where all students start with) and usually its a Thursday night all students go out. I recommend that you consider the implications of getting plastered before having to go in for 9am on the friday. I some how managed to do pretty well (by some miracle)

Sports: There is a good few sports, i did one myself and its great. It breaks up the monotony of college, outside of getting drunk.

other stuff: There is a ton of societies, ranging from airsoft guns, to anime or to the likes of the LGB, so if you have an interest there is a society for it.

Conclusion:
I know you have received a lot of negetive feedback about IT Tralee and the course. But you need to do a lot of the work alone, you need to be continiously motivated to get your work done and learn new things to pass the course, if you sit back and relax for a minute you will fail. Dont miss classes (as hard as it can be) and trying getting involved in a sport of some sort.

sheao

I am after accepting my offer for this .

hacx

Welp, didn't get offered it. Got Interactive Multimedia instead.

Hopefully I can switch over at the end of the year.

alleystar

@SwordSmith thanks for the advice.

I accepted the course anyway whether that's a good thing or not I dunno. Sure we'll soon find out.

RabbleRouser2k

When I say that lecturers don't help, I mean no help, none.
Claymation is taught by a guy <mod snip>, and I use the word 'taught' loosely. He'll come in, talk about Jedward or something else in the news, for an hour (the entire class) and by then, you will have learned nothing. There are so little books on the subject that it is equally hard to figure it out for yourself. Then you have to make a short film to pass the module. No advice on lighting or anything else.
When I was having problems with making a website in VB, the lecturer would look at my work, and not critique it or help me out, despite always saying she would tell me where I went wrong. She simply looked at it, and that was it. By some sheer miracle, and a lot of help from a friend, I passed that subject with the bare minimum of points needed to pass. Nobody in that class scored more than 50%.
The T-card registration device does not work. By the middle of the year, it was the same method of pen and paper to log people in.
More money wasted.

RabbleRouser2k

We were told the final year project was our own too, but then, in third year, we found out it was gonna be a group project, with Music Tech/ TV Radio and Multimedia folks mixing. One could stay with the people they knew, from their own course, but most were going working with people who you had no idea what their skill sets were. You assume that they got this far based on their own skill, but often they were plagiarising or having someone else do the work (college turns a blind eye to plagiarised projects.). So like the old saying 'When you assume, it only makes an ass out of you and me.' Every other project in the final year was a group project, which hampered the FYP and ate into alot of time. Deadlines were also brought forward or pushed back at a moments notice.

Your final year 'mentors'/ 'supervisors' are actually lecturers, and have never worked in the field. So they steer you all the wrong way. The only lecturer who had experience in music production and film production, was working, on a professional project. He would have been a real source of advice for the FYP, but he was unavailable.
Also, your FYP is made over the course of 12 weeks, in the second semester, not the entire year. But you have to have 60%-80% of it finished by March, and present it, in class. Not May, as you are told in the first semester. The first semester is entirely about coming up with the idea. Even if you worked over the summer coming up with it, that does not matter. You are not allowed do anything before January. It's all research and sketchbooks. Some people were making documentaries and short animations, but had to cut the work substantially to get it finished in time. The final product was not fit for a portfolio.
Some of the modules are repeated 3 years in a row, the same material said over and over again. We had to do interactive interfaces 3 times, once where an entire semester was dedicated to it, and then 2 sessions of 4 weeks as part of a different module.
When we were on work placement, arranged by the college, alot of the work we were unable to do for the companies, because we could not program using php web language. It was not taught to us, not even an elective.

I was having problems with my FYP group, like no meetings some weeks (3 is the standard, yet they were not turning up), unanswered texts and emails that I CC'd to my lecturer to prove they were unanswered, late work that was holding me up. And for two weeks, my group disappeared, 6 weeks into the project (2 weeks before first submission. They often dissappeared, holding up everything.), and text messages and emails went unanswered. I sought help, from my lecturer, a month beforehand, but when the project failed, I got the blame. Despite evidence and emails to the contrary. Speaking with them, I knew straight away they had not viewed any of the mandatory submissions I made. (They allowed the other guys to submit their work, after missing two deadlines and five days later than the final submission. Go into the real world, and see where that is accepted, without consequences.)

RabbleRouser2k

I forgot to mention that I did a FETAC course to get in there, which encompassed photoshop, HTML, Flash and other subjects, and after 4 years in the IT Tralee, what I knew from that was what i walked away with. As that was all that was useful. The rest I taught myself, and that majority of it I already knew from my LC and reading books.

DestructiveApe

Accepted this course as well , sure an optimistic outlook is the only way to do it :P

hacx

So it seems I actually did get this course, but it was just a cock up on the college's end that i was put in the wrong course. It's now being rectified. TVRB, here I come.

RabbleRouser2k

hacx wrote: »

So it seems I actually did get this course, but it was just a cock up on the college's end that i was put in the wrong course. It's now being rectified. TVRB, here I come.

Expect many more cock-ups. That is just the tip of the ice berg.

I personally know two people whose assignments, that were meant to be emailed to their lecturer, wound up in his spam folder. This was emailed to him through the college email system, and was only discovered when he personally asked them why they had not emailed their assignments. This issue was something that continued for an entire semester, with important emails finding their way into the junk folder, through no fault of the users, but simply the system being faulty.

RB100

@RabbleRouser I am starting Multimedia and I was wondering what laptop do you need to get? like do you need a expensive top of the range with good graphics card or a Mac? or can you get by with just standard mid priced laptop?

RabbleRouser2k

RB100 wrote: »

@RabbleRouser I am starting Multimedia and I was wondering what laptop do you need to get? like do you need a expensive top of the range with good graphics card or a Mac? or can you get by with just standard mid priced laptop?

My advice to you is to hold off getting a laptop until 2nd year. The reason being is that you may wish to transfer from that to TV Radio or Music Tech.
In Multimedia, you should get a Windows laptop. There are only two subjects that are Mac only, over the entire 4 years, the rest are PC specific or PC/ Mac such as the Adobe suite. Alot of folks were using a PC emulator for their Macs, but it is not as successful as having a PC. Plus when you are doing Microsoft Office Powerpoint presentations, you can run into issues when displaying it on a PC if you have created it on a Mac, and vice versa. It won't recognise it or will run into issues, which you will have to fix on the machine you are presenting on.

If you know that you won't transfer, then get one with 6-8 gigs of ram, a dual or quad core processer with good amount of ram and processor speed. Argos do good ones, as I know people who have gotten em there and had no issues.
Avoid Harvey Norman for laptops, be they Mac or Windows, I know folks who have had nothing but issues with them (one person's laptop started deleting their files, including the virus software. Had to go back to the shop for that. Another's Hard drive started kicking off, and someone else found the case, behind the screen had cracked, like an impact break, but she swears she never dropped it, and I believe her. She had to pay for a new one, because they claim the makers of the laptop don't cover impact damage, despite her claims she never dropped it.)

Learn to BS, as in 'I like this image because....' 'I chose this design because...'. And buy a truck load of hardback sketchbooks, because you will use one for nearly every subject. Specifically A4, and blank pages. Easons do ones for 4.99, so bring a load with you, although that paper is hard to draw on. Also get a load of glue, PVC paste or Pritt Stick, the jumbo ones. (Again, you will go though it like an addict.)

RB100

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

My advice to you is to hold off getting a laptop until 2nd year. The reason being is that you may wish to transfer from that to TV Radio or Music Tech.
In Multimedia, you should get a Windows laptop. There are only two subjects that are Mac only, over the entire 4 years, the rest are PC specific or PC/ Mac such as the Adobe suite. Alot of folks were using a PC emulator for their Macs, but it is not as successful as having a PC. Plus when you are doing Microsoft Office Powerpoint presentations, you can run into issues when displaying it on a PC if you have created it on a Mac, and vice versa. It won't recognise it or will run into issues, which you will have to fix on the machine you are presenting on.

If you know that you won't transfer, then get one with 6-8 gigs of ram, a dual or quad core processer with good amount of ram and processor speed. Argos do good ones, as I know people who have gotten em there and had no issues.
Avoid Harvey Norman for laptops, be they Mac or Windows, I know folks who have had nothing but issues with them (one person's laptop started deleting their files, including the virus software. Had to go back to the shop for that. Another's Hard drive started kicking off, and someone else found the case, behind the screen had cracked, like an impact break, but she swears she never dropped it, and I believe her. She had to pay for a new one, because they claim the makers of the laptop don't cover impact damage, despite her claims she never dropped it.)

Learn to BS, as in 'I like this image because....' 'I chose this design because...'. And buy a truck load of hardback sketchbooks, because you will use one for nearly every subject. Specifically A4, and blank pages. Easons do ones for 4.99, so bring a load with you, although that paper is hard to draw on. Also get a load of glue, PVC paste or Pritt Stick, the jumbo ones. (Again, you will go though it like an addict.)

Thanks for the advice. But I am not from Tralee and will be staying in Kingscourt so I need a laptop to do my work on as I will not be able to go home and use a PC. Or can you just do all the work in the IT on the PC's there?

I don't intend to switch over to another course anyway(I am doing Interactive Multimedia btw) unless I find that I REALLY hate it. So you suggest Windows then? Because I don't particularly like Macs tbh as I am used to Windows. And I was intending to get one from Argos I think they are the most reliable.

Also can I ask why would you go through so much Pritt Stick? I understand the hardback for notes from lectures but Pritt Stick?

RabbleRouser2k

RB100 wrote: »

Thanks for the advice. But I am not from Tralee and will be staying in Kingscourt so I need a laptop to do my work on as I will not be able to go home and use a PC. Or can you just do all the work in the IT on the PC's there?

I don't intend to switch over to another course anyway(I am doing Interactive Multimedia btw) unless I find that I REALLY hate it. So you suggest Windows then? Because I don't particularly like Macs tbh as I am used to Windows. And I was intending to get one from Argos I think they are the most reliable.

Also can I ask why would you go through so much Pritt Stick? I understand the hardback for notes from lectures but Pritt Stick?

The hardback sketchbooks are not for notes, they are for projects. I am talking about the kind that you draw in, blank pages, because you will have to draw your designs for projects before you are ever allowed touch a program (one lecturer asked for A3, but people got a4 and he never said anything about it. Plus, 2 A4 pages=1 A3 page). Nothing elaborate, just something that is clear and easy to read.. When it comes to doing projects you will be printing out alot of images, and sticking them into sketchbooks, as well as saying why you like the image. That is why I said learn to BS. The pritt stick is for sticking images into sketchbooks. Some projects, such as Media Graphics, give 50 percent of marks for the sketchbook, another 50 for the project. You have to show your ideas in the book, before they will ever let you do any of the project. And you cannot skip a stage, they want to see weekly updates in the SB . And that is just one project(btw, have a few blank cd's too, because you will need them for submission. They sell them in the shop, but are real expensive). Btw, colour printing costs 25 cent per page, and 8 per black and white, when using the college printers. Sometimes, okay, alot of times, they malfunction, and you have to go to computer services to get a refund. This can be down to new software or other stuff going on in the network.
College PC's are available until 9.30, when the college closes.

Kingscourt, huh? Buy a set of ear plugs, because that is party central. Every town/ city has one. And that is Tralee's. Also, lock your window's during the day, and do not open them until you are home. I remember in first year, an email was sent around about being careful with our stuff by the SU. The email cited one person, living in Kingscourt, who left their window open, and someone climbed in the window, and stole their laptop, laptop case and all.
Some places, such as Kerry Lee, or Town centre apts, are really strict about parties. Even if you have a few friends over while you are working on a project, or before you go out and have a few drinks, you may find that certain landlords will want to know why you are there. The first few weeks when you are settling in are crucial, so learn the safe areas.
And at all costs, avoid the Bull Ring. When my bro was goin to the IT years ago, they used to include it on a list of places people should not go. Nowadays, no need for the list, since everyone knows not to go there. not even on a dare. Unless you want to get your wallet stolen, or windows on your car smashed in.

RB100

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

The hardback sketchbooks are not for notes, they are for projects. I am talking about the kind that you draw in, blank pages, because you will have to draw your designs for projects before you are ever allowed touch a program (one lecturer asked for A3, but people got a4 and he never said anything about it. Plus, 2 A4 pages=1 A3 page). Nothing elaborate, just something that is clear and easy to read.. When it comes to doing projects you will be printing out alot of images, and sticking them into sketchbooks, as well as saying why you like the image. That is why I said learn to BS. The pritt stick is for sticking images into sketchbooks. Some projects, such as Media Graphics, give 50 percent of marks for the sketchbook, another 50 for the project. You have to show your ideas in the book, before they will ever let you do any of the project. And you cannot skip a stage, they want to see weekly updates in the SB . And that is just one project(btw, have a few blank cd's too, because you will need them for submission. They sell them in the shop, but are real expensive). Btw, colour printing costs 25 cent per page, and 8 per black and white, when using the college printers. Sometimes, okay, alot of times, they malfunction, and you have to go to computer services to get a refund. This can be down to new software or other stuff going on in the network.
College PC's are available until 9.30, when the college closes.

Kingscourt, huh? Buy a set of ear plugs, because that is party central. Every town/ city has one. And that is Tralee's. Also, lock your window's during the day, and do not open them until you are home. I remember in first year, an email was sent around about being careful with our stuff by the SU. The email cited one person, living in Kingscourt, who left their window open, and someone climbed in the window, and stole their laptop, laptop case and all.
Some places, such as Kerry Lee, or Town centre apts, are really strict about parties. Even if you have a few friends over while you are working on a project, or before you go out and have a few drinks, you may find that certain landlords will want to know why you are there. The first few weeks when you are settling in are crucial, so learn the safe areas.
And at all costs, avoid the Bull Ring. When my bro was goin to the IT years ago, they used to include it on a list of places people should not go. Nowadays, no need for the list, since everyone knows not to go there. not even on a dare. Unless you want to get your wallet stolen, or windows on your car smashed in.

Oh right, I will buy some A4 and A3 hardbacks so. I will bring some blank cd's cus I have some at home. That sounds a pain about the printers not working tho.
Cheers for the info.

Yea I chose Kingscourt because it is right beside Tesco and you will get to know people much easier down there but that's got me worried that they get robbed! and since I have never been down there what other places and clubs/pubs should be avoided unless you want to get stabbed ha?

Opinicus

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

And at all costs, avoid the Bull Ring. When my bro was goin to the IT years ago, they used to include it on a list of places people should not go. Nowadays, no need for the list, since everyone knows not to go there. not even on a dare. Unless you want to get your wallet stolen, or windows on your car smashed in.

I walk/drive through the bull ring and I never get hassle. I get more hassle from some gob****e downtown who has had a skinful of drink and decides to cause some trouble. It may have been worse years ago but now it's grand really. Some families which were living there have been relocated.

RabbleRouser2k

RB100 wrote: »

Oh right, I will buy some A4 and A3 hardbacks so. I will bring some blank cd's cus I have some at home. That sounds a pain about the printers not working tho.
Cheers for the info.

Yea I chose Kingscourt because it is right beside Tesco and you will get to know people much easier down there but that's got me worried that they get robbed! and since I have never been down there what other places and clubs/pubs should be avoided unless you want to get stabbed ha?

Horan's fine most nights, but outside of the student nights, you may spot alot of Urban scumbags, or Less than likable members of the travelling community. Stabbing is rare, but fights aren't. Most of the pubs and clubs are grand. The Abbey is a bit dodgy, not because of any people, but if you are using the toilets, you have to climb two flights of stairs down to go tinkle. Because that is where they are located.
If you have had a bit to drink, then that can be like maneuvering a labyrinth.

Printers work most of the time, it's just sometimes, during the holidays, they upgrade the software, or occassionally you get paper jams, and you end up having to go to computer services to sort it out. The problem is they are expensive to print, and alot of folks buy a cheap printer to do the printing for them, to save money.

irishgurl

does any one know when orientation is???i think its next monday but not sure!!

RB100

irishgurl wrote: »

does any one know when orientation is???i think its next monday but not sure!!

It is different days for each course. if you are talking about tv radio course im not sure. it says on the website the dates for every course on the orientation page. here's a link.
http://www.ittralee.ie/en/InformationAbout/1stYearRegistrationFrequentlyAskedQuestions/
Just go to your course under Q15 at the bottom of the page in the FAQS and the info will be there.

I will be down there for the 11th for Interactive Multimedia.

DestructiveApe

irishgurl wrote: »

does any one know when orientation is???i think its next monday but not sure!!

It's 11th for TVRB also

Mcoll93

hi eveyone,
im starting tv radio and new media broadcasting next week also!!
im heading down by myself all of my classmates from home are heading to cork/dublin/limerick so im heading down completely blind.
is anyone else in this coarse in the same boat??
if ye are staying in tralee where are ye staying ?? ive booked kingscoart.

alleystar

Mcoll93 wrote: »

hi eveyone,
im starting tv radio and new media broadcasting next week also!!
im heading down by myself all of my classmates from home are heading to cork/dublin/limerick so im heading down completely blind.
is anyone else in this coarse in the same boat??
if ye are staying in tralee where are ye staying ?? ive booked kingscoart.

Hey

Yeah I'm doing the same course as well and none of my friends are coming down either, I'm staying in Coisceim beside the North Campus.

Mcoll93

hey alleystar,
thank god your the 2nd person to be in the same boat as me that calms my nerves alot ha!
the guy i was talking to was staying in coisceim too ye'll be put in a house together now haha
where are you from ??

alleystar

Mcoll93 wrote: »

hey alleystar,
thank god your the 2nd person to be in the same boat as me that calms my nerves alot ha!
the guy i was talking to was staying in coisceim too ye'll be put in a house together now haha
where are you from ??

Ah yeah sure there's nothing to be nervous about, I'm sure there's plenty of people starting out by themselves in first year

I'm from Tipperary Only a few days until orientation starts now!

Mcoll93

alleystar wrote: »

Ah yeah sure there's nothing to be nervous about, I'm sure there's plenty of people starting out by themselves in first year

I'm from Tipperary Only a few days until orientation starts now!

i know after a few days itll be grand we'll all be grand :P

whats your name?? im martina by the way...i know i cant wait till it starts..in ways..:P

begsy

im going into second year tvrb love it.. if you do the work u will be fine.. .best of luck..

alleystar

Do any present TVRB students know the story with booklists for first year? Do we even need any books for the course or what?

JFlah

alleystar wrote: »

Do any present TVRB students know the story with booklists for first year? Do we even need any books for the course or what?

There are very few book purchases required in ITTralee in general , most of the material is available in the library either hard copy or electronic format , also a lot of modules are very much hands on and practical.

LadyLuck2012

I'm going into 3rd year of TVRB, and I love it. The first year is very common so you will be in a lot of classes with the Interactive's and The Music Production class, but stick with it. Great course Best of luck, and see you around hopefully

Knobbly

So how ye finding them journals?

angs77

depending on what journals you are looking for

log into the library website library.ittralee.ie
click on resources
and choose the journal search engines you want

RabbleRouser2k

I believe he is referring to the reflective journals that one must submit every couple of weeks, as part of either New Media, or Irish Culture/ Creative Thinking.

There are so many. Most of them eat into time that could be spent on something better.

sheao

Journals can be very time consuming , but I find once you get the motivation to get down to do them they are nt the worst in the world.

Knobbly

sheao wrote: »

Journals can be very time consuming , but I find once you get the motivation to get down to do them they are nt the worst in the world.

For me they were the hardest part of 1st and 2nd year, especially when Ashley has his angry hat on. I can see the benefit of them thought.

RabbleRouser2k

For me, they were no problem. I always have my head in a book/ under my nose, and stuff on an ipod, so I could drag that into a journal, and be okay. I also found that despite the word limit, if one went over the word count, he was cool with that as long as you had something to say. I am a pessimist at heart, also, and so found I often agreed, or disagreed, with his opinion. If one could raise a decent argument, and back it up, while disagreeing with him, it was fine and dandy. The trick about the journals was to answer your own questions, and back it up eg. 'See what I mean? Of Course you do'. That's just the basic example.

The time I was referring to was the amount of time that could be spent on doing something related to the course. I mean, when looking for work, it's not reflective journals that are gonna grab you a job, but rather a decent portfolio.

Knobbly

The time I was referring to was the amount of time that could be spent on doing something related to the course. I mean, when looking for work, it's not reflective journals that are gonna grab you a job, but rather a decent portfolio.

I think they can defiantly help your portfolio, they give a deeper understanding of film and help you think more about the project you are undertaking. They may not help the volume but certainly the quality. Also, I've never been a great reader so that made them a bit harder.

Horsetiger

A group of students from the Creative Media Department in the Institute of Technology, Tralee are proud to present details of ‘Create ITT;’ an evening that will showcase the skills and talents of multimedia and broadcasting students based in Kerry. The event will take place in the Kerry County Museum, Tralee on Thursday 18th April from 5:30 – 8:00PM.

The ‘Create ITT’ exhibition will include a wide range of short films, television features and documentary extracts as well as a gallery of photographs and multimedia designs. There will also be a chance for visitors to experience the excitement of taking part in the recording of a live radio drama. The concept for the exhibition was developed by a group of Final Year students who wanted to share a collection of material produced during their time in college.
Earlier this year, the work of the Creative Media Department was propelled into the spotlight when a student project based on a scene from Pulp Fiction became a YouTube phenomenon after featuring in an interview with Quentin Tarantino on the Graham Norton Show (BBC).

For further information and to view previews of some of the videos that will be shown on the night, visit www.facebook.com/createitt

Knobbly

Horsetiger wrote: »

an evening that will showcase the skills and talents of multimedia and broadcasting students based in Kerry.

* 4th year multimedia and broadcasting students

Horsetiger

Knobbly wrote: »

* 4th year multimedia and broadcasting students

We did send out an email a couple of weeks ago looking for content from other students but unfortunately received no replies! I believe a project you were involved with will feature on the night anyway!

We are running this event as part of our 'Event Management' module and are hoping the concept will become an annual event.

Knobbly

Horsetiger wrote: »

We did send out an email a couple of weeks ago looking for content from other students but unfortunately received no replies! I believe a project you were involved with will feature on the night anyway!

I replied but heard nothing back.

Horsetiger

Knobbly wrote: »

I replied but heard nothing back.

Apologies for that - have sent you a PM to discuss - hope you will still be able to attend and look forward to seeing your work showcased next year!

RabbleRouser2k

Knobbly wrote: »

I think they can defiantly help your portfolio, they give a deeper understanding of film and help you think more about the project you are undertaking. They may not help the volume but certainly the quality. Also, I've never been a great reader so that made them a bit harder.

I think you mean 'definitely' (Not being sarcastic, just trying to make sure I understand you). The problem is that much of the theory in that course is freely available in other books, many of which I owned and had read before then. I did an art course(PLC) a few years ago, and alot of the theory that was in the course I had learned many moons ago both in that course, and LC art. One specific book I recommened to everyone willing to read it, since it dealt with every visual medium, and was pretty cheap to buy. Anyone who got the book thanked me for the advice, as it had all the information one could need about film/ animation etc and then some.

The thing is that one's portfolio needs to have content, quality and showcase that one can do what one claims they can do. They have to look professional. Many of the portfolios, both mine and others, were very underwhelming, which is what we discovered on placement. While on placement during the course, many of the employers we were working for would not look at our stuff, because it was 'projects', and not professional work. The distinct lack of ability in the core software, like Photoshop, and illustrator, was clearly apparent also. It showed a clear lack of understanding of the software. When the work was a 'group' project, then that became even more irritating, because one had to tell the employers what they had created for the project. And that would rely on them trusting you to tell the truth. (Thankfully, I went and got a rapidshare account, and downloaded tutorials on photoshop from websites that provide specific tutelage on software ranging from Photoshop to 3D Max, with video and tutorials. The weird thing is that one of the books I downloaded to learn 3D Max, which taught me alot in first year, on my own time, was actually the same book the lecturer used in third year for the 3D module. Every chapter the same, except he converted it into a pdf.) The FAS guys work was amazing, however.

So the work went ignored, and many of them did not look at the work we had done, or viewed us as an annoyance. Some of the work we could not do for them as we lacked abilities in .php, a web programming language which we had not been taught. Not even an elective.
It was a real gut punch to know that so much time had been wasted with promises not kept. It left me with a complete anger towards the place, not only with the lack of teaching quality, but also how much cloak and daggers stuff goes on behind the place which means one is not taught the course they were told they would be. (Speaking as someone who visited the place on the open day, and enquired about everything.)
Many more had the same opinions toward the place, leading to people complaining, in 4th year, that once they leave the place, they will be unemployable in their preferred trade. And sadly many of them are, and are working in places that do not need a degree.

I am glad I left before graduating.

Sorry, I am venting on you, and this response went on way too long.

Knobbly

Yes indeed, I did mean "definitely". Like I said I can see the benefits. Lets just agree to disagree.

alleystar

Probably a stupid question to ask, but is the north campus open near the end of June/ beginning of July?

RabbleRouser2k

You may want to check, but I believe it is, as there are exams going on around the beginning of June, and appeals are ongoing in June and July. It does reopen in August for resits and repeat exams, and maybe a bit earlier. I know they take alot of that time to update the network and install new software. So, like I said, you may need to check.

DestructiveApe

I'm pretty sure it's open over the summer for the most part. Probably just shorter opening hours