The Wheel. Invention or just happened.

Lando Griffin

Iv been mulling over this for weeks now. Do you think the wheel evolved from being a tree trunk and ended up a wheel or did someone design it? I would say they used tree trunks to move large or awkward objects then the cut the trunks up and ended up with smaller trunks then cut the trunks again. Then over hundreds possibly thousands of years the wheel as we know it happened. An what a relief. From the great Roman empire ti the industrial revolution to modern transport all thanks to the wheel..

Voice of the Ages

By just happened, do you mean that some Hunter Gatherer seen some round natural object that, when moved, rolled on it's own accord.

Or do you mean that it was designed by committee in some remote area of Iraq.

Colmustard

The wheel is useless, its the guy that invented the second wheel and axle.

OMARS_COMING_

Who invented the human who invented the wheel?

af_thefragile

Colmustard wrote: »

The wheel is useless, its the guy that invented the second wheel and axle.

Unless he first started with a unicycle or a wheel barrow...

Colmustard

It was invented because it wasn't universal, the Meso Americans never invented the wheel, it only start been used in America after the Spanish arrived.

Lando Griffin

OMARS_COMING_ wrote: »

Who invented the human who invented the wheel?

Cog?

galwayrush

The Aliens gave us the wheel.

Cassidy28

The wheel fell off the wagon.

Colmustard

af_thefragile wrote: »

Unless he first started with a unicycle or a wheel barrow...

Aha
You are right, but they would still need an axle.

1ZRed

Lando Griffin wrote: »

Iv been mulling over this for weeks now.

Really?

Sunnyisland

This thread keeps going around & around.

peasant

Lando Griffin wrote: »

Do you think the wheel evolved from being a tree trunk and ended up a wheel or did someone design it?

In this case I'd be firmly in the creationist corner

1ZRed

realies wrote: »

This thread keeps going around & around.

I agree. It is quite pointless.

indioblack

1ZRed wrote: »

I agree. It is quite pointless.

Did ye never watch "Carry on Cleo"?
It was the Brits who invented the wheel. Square ones.

Casillas

The true beginnings of the wheel date back possibly as far as the Paleolithic era (15,000 to 750,000 years ago). This wheel was nothing more than a log, laid alongside others, which was placed beneath a load to be moved. The main problem with this method of transportation was that many rollers were required, and care was required to insure that the rollers stayed true to their course.

One theory as to how this obstacle was overcome suggests a platform, or sledge, was built with cross-bars fitted to the underside, thereby preventing the rollers from slipping out from under the load. Two rollers would be utilized, with two cross-bars for each roller, one fore and the other aft of the roller.

I think your looking for this site; http://www.ohtm.org/wheel.html

Lando Griffin

Casillas wrote: »

The true beginnings of the wheel date back possibly as far as the Paleolithic era (15,000 to 750,000 years ago).

What a bunch of thickos or what ffs 725000 years to develop an idea from conception to end. Ha.

Temptamperu

The mayans came and went without ever using a wheel.

Casillas

Temptamperu wrote: »

The mayans came and went without ever using a wheel.

They had the concept at least, lots of small carved animals on wheels have been found, probably children's toys.

http://www.atoda.com/amerindian/wheel.php

Duckworth_Luas

Temptamperu wrote: »

The mayans came and went without ever using a wheel.

True, Mayan TV game shows were notoriously crap. Square of Fortune!

Casillas

Lando Griffin wrote: »

What a bunch of thickos or what ffs 725000 years to develop an idea from conception to end. Ha.

Eh? They're talking about a period of time there Paleolithic.

paddyandy

It probably evolved and the axle later .

Wibbs

Colmustard wrote: »

It was invented because it wasn't universal, the Meso Americans never invented the wheel, it only start been used in America after the Spanish arrived.

Nope, as Casillas pointed out they had the wheel, but only used it on kids toys and the like. They didn't feel the need to scale up, but they had the wheel.

woodoo

The British invented the wheel.. British wheels best wheels in the world!

scouttio

I reckon some fat guy just fell and rolled down a hill

Capt'n Midnight

On 24 May 2001, John Michael Keogh filed Australian Patent 2001100012 for "Circular Transportation Facilitation Device"

http://www.hl7.org.au/docs/Australian%20Patent%202001100012.pdf

Colmustard

Wibbs wrote: »

Nope, as Casillas pointed out they had the wheel, but only used it on kids toys and the like. They didn't feel the need to scale up, but they had the wheel.

It's kind of weird, the aliens instructed them how to build pyramids, but they never taught them on how to scale up the wheel.

Aliens are stupid teachers.

gobnaitolunacy

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

True, Mayan TV game shows were notoriously crap. Square of Fortune!

Celebrity Human Sacrifice, could come back though.

LoYL

It was rolled out as part of a research project. The Minister for Mammoth Containment said that going forward it had potential but the Opposition spokesman said it was hard to see any point to it.


I need to go into the sunshine. Yes.

CruelCoin

OMARS_COMING_ wrote: »

Who invented the human who invented the wheel?

Jebus.

Gawd!

Capt'n Midnight

Wheels only work if you have good roads.

Japan banned wheels because they rutted the roads.

Look at how the canals dominated trade until the advent of the railways and how roads only took over after tarmac and the internal combustion engine

today in China maglev is replacing wheels on high speed trains

and most international goods movement is by ship

wendell borton

Lando Griffin wrote: »

What a bunch of thickos or what ffs 725000 years to develop an idea from conception to end. Ha.

They now work in the civil service.

Colmustard

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Wheels only work if you have good roads.

Japan banned wheels because they rutted the roads.

Look at how the canals dominated trade until the advent of the railways and how roads only took over after tarmac and the internal combustion engine

today in China maglev is replacing wheels on high speed trains

and most international goods movement is by ship

No most good and people are moved by truck and cars and that won't change till we get startrek beam machines.

But you do need roads otherwise the tank track would have been the second best invention ever, after the remote control.

Jimoslimos

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Wheels only work if you have good roads.

This is very true, up until recently the best choice for going "off-road" would have been a horse. Even still today I've been places on horseback that a 4wd would struggle to reach.

ejmaztec

Colmustard wrote: »

It's kind of weird, the aliens instructed them how to build pyramids, but they never taught them on how to scale up the wheel.

Aliens are stupid teachers.

The Egyptians weren't interested, they preferred building the "big pointy things" to "little roundy things". They weren't even interested in giving them proper names.

Wibbs

Jimoslimos wrote: »

This is very true, up until recently the best choice for going "off-road" would have been a horse. Even still today I've been places on horseback that a 4wd would struggle to reach.

True enough. Look at the Ford model T. High ground clearance and the ability to rock the car back and forth using the gears. They've pretty good off road capability. They were designed for a time when outside the cities in the US roads were little more than dirt tracks if they were there at all.

Capt'n Midnight

Wibbs wrote: »

True enough. Look at the Ford model T. High ground clearance and the ability to rock the car back and forth using the gears. They've pretty good off road capability. They were designed for a time when outside the cities in the US roads were little more than dirt tracks if they were there at all.

in 1911 a Model T Ford was driven to the summit of Ben Nevis as a publicity stunt by a Henry Alexander Jr from Edinburgh.