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Getting No word back after an interview

  • 16-08-2012 3:43pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭


    Would it be wrong to ring/email the principal to express my anger that they would not give me the decent respect of a rejection phone call/letter? Traveled 5 hours in total for the interview (which I am aware has little or nothing to do with this) and the least i expected was the common courtesy of a reply afterwards. Do principals/BOM realise how demoralising and downright insulting it is to young teachers to be treated this shabbily? Rant over, but I do believe this is a common problem.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Would it be wrong to ring/email the principal to express my anger that they would not give me the decent respect of a rejection phone call/letter? Traveled 5 hours in total for the interview (which I am aware has little or nothing to do with this) and the least i expected was the common courtesy of a reply afterwards. Do principals/BOM realise how demoralising and downright insulting it is to young teachers to be treated this shabbily? Rant over, but I do believe this is a common problem.

    I'd hold off if I were you. There are several variables at play here. For example, maybe they have offered the job to somebody else but that person hasn't committed to taking the job. They may turn it down and you might be next in line for it. This is just one of MANY possible reasons. You might be glad to apply to that school in the future for a job.

    I know it's frustrating but all I'm saying is just think about the consequences before you make that call.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 2,503 Mod ✭✭✭✭dambarude


    The same thing happened me, I'm waiting two months to hear back from an interview at this stage :rolleyes:. You'd better just leave it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Would it be wrong to ring/email the principal to express my anger that they would not give me the decent respect of a rejection phone call/letter? Traveled 5 hours in total for the interview (which I am aware has little or nothing to do with this) and the least i expected was the common courtesy of a reply afterwards. Do principals/BOM realise how demoralising and downright insulting it is to young teachers to be treated this shabbily? Rant over, but I do believe this is a common problem.

    When did you do the interview?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭Bobsammy


    I've done around 10 interviews so far this summer and heard back from all but one. It's about 9 weeks since that interview so I'm unlikely to hear now! I was going to ring and ask but in the end I just left it - I was so annoyed not to have had any reply I thought I'd end up being rude to whoever picked up the phone and it wouldn't be their fault!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    Would it be wrong to ring/email the principal to express my anger that they would not give me the decent respect of a rejection phone call/letter? Traveled 5 hours in total for the interview (which I am aware has little or nothing to do with this) and the least i expected was the common courtesy of a reply afterwards. Do principals/BOM realise how demoralising and downright insulting it is to young teachers to be treated this shabbily? Rant over, but I do believe this is a common problem.


    Shocking that.

    Very little you can do though.

    Some principals really take the pi..........


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    lets see.
    100 people apply for a job.
    principal has to shortlist either by paper or interview
    maybe they have other jobs to fill.
    Yes, a letter is nicer and better but principal may not be good with computers and sending letters to everyone can be very time consuming.
    I would always send a letter but I can appreciate how it can take a lot of time and effort. Also the minute people get the letter, they are on the phone asking stuff.

    Also, if you ring and eat them, they you are verifying they were right not to give the job to a potential hot head. Sorry but thats what it would sound like.

    All I ask is have some regard for the immense amount of work for the principal also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭Bobsammy


    TheDriver wrote: »
    lets see.
    100 people apply for a job.
    principal has to shortlist either by paper or interview
    maybe they have other jobs to fill.
    Yes, a letter is nicer and better but principal may not be good with computers and sending letters to everyone can be very time consuming.
    I would always send a letter but I can appreciate how it can take a lot of time and effort. Also the minute people get the letter, they are on the phone asking stuff.

    Also, if you ring and eat them, they you are verifying they were right not to give the job to a potential hot head. Sorry but thats what it would sound like.

    All I ask is have some regard for the immense amount of work for the principal also.


    I can understand not sending letters to every applicant but I don't think it's too much to expect a reply when you have gone to the effort of attending an interview.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    TheDriver wrote: »
    lets see.
    100 people apply for a job.
    principal has to shortlist either by paper or interview
    maybe they have other jobs to fill.
    Yes, a letter is nicer and better but principal may not be good with computers and sending letters to everyone can be very time consuming.
    I would always send a letter but I can appreciate how it can take a lot of time and effort. Also the minute people get the letter, they are on the phone asking stuff.

    Also, if you ring and eat them, they you are verifying they were right not to give the job to a potential hot head. Sorry but thats what it would sound like.

    All I ask is have some regard for the immense amount of work for the principal also.



    Professionalism is a two way street. Principals demand people come to interview prepared, learn about the school, etc etc. Basically that candidates make an effort.

    It is not an administrative challenge for a principal to send off a standard letter of rejection to unsuccessful candidates and if it is I would question if they should be in the job in the first place.
    but principal may not be good with computers
    Are you for real?? Seriously?
    and sending letters to everyone can be very time consuming.
    Assuming the principal does not ask the secretary to do it, it takes 5 minutes max.
    All I ask is have some regard for the immense amount of work for the principal also

    Most teachers appreciate that, but that does not excuse lack of basic courtesy and professionalism.

    Having said that from my experience I have never not received a reply from an interview. I have even been phoned on a few occasions and principals have been great about giving feedback. So I would say the OPs experience is very rare indeed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 574 ✭✭✭bdoo


    TheDriver wrote: »
    lets see.
    100 people apply for a job.
    principal has to shortlist either by paper or interview
    maybe they have other jobs to fill.
    Yes, a letter is nicer and better but principal may not be good with computers and sending letters to everyone can be very time consuming.
    I would always send a letter but I can appreciate how it can take a lot of time and effort. Also the minute people get the letter, they are on the phone asking stuff.

    Also, if you ring and eat them, they you are verifying they were right not to give the job to a potential hot head. Sorry but thats what it would sound like.

    All I ask is have some regard for the immense amount of work for the principal also.



    Professionalism is a two way street. Principals demand people come to interview prepared, learn about the school, etc etc. Basically that candidates make an effort.

    It is not an administrative challenge for a principal to send off a standard letter of rejection to unsuccessful candidates and if it is I would question if they should be in the job in the first place.
    but principal may not be good with computers
    Are you for real?? Seriously?
    and sending letters to everyone can be very time consuming.
    Assuming the principal does not ask the secretary to do it, it takes 5 minutes max.
    All I ask is have some regard for the immense amount of work for the principal also

    Most teachers appreciate that, but that does not excuse lack of basic courtesy and professionalism.

    A generic letter wouldn't be the end of the world to make up and keep on file, dear __________, handwritten name would do. Or a two min phone call, courtesy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    You state principals shouldn't be in the job if they have bad IT skills, well NQTs can have appalling IT skills, even hand written application forms for jobs, poor spelling. The list goes on and on.

    I agree you should have gotten a letter but I am sure there are many other factors associated with this. As for phone calls, I would hate to ring someone to say they didn't get the job, its like telling them about a bereavement and the risk of someone going on at length.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 574 ✭✭✭bdoo


    TheDriver wrote: »
    You state principals shouldn't be in the job if they have bad IT skills, well NQTs can have appalling IT skills, even hand written application forms for jobs, poor spelling. The list goes on and on.

    I agree you should have gotten a letter but I am sure there are many other factors associated with this. As for phone calls, I would hate to ring someone to say they didn't get the job, its like telling them about a bereavement and the risk of someone going on at length.

    I understand that thedriver I also appreciate how busy principals are. I've been in 3 days this week getting stuff sorted and the boss is up to her tonsils.

    With the VEC at least there is someone in head office to send the letters I appreciate that in the voluntary sector you are on your own.

    Still, schools interview every year, a standard letter wouldn't be a big deal imo.

    On the nqt ict thing the ability to type something on word is about as far as it goes, I'm sick of people raving about how they did all their assignments on computer but can't use 'save as' and rolling their eyes as I explain the school network, saving personal files in public locations and wrecking the shared folders with multiple copies of files called Mary, mary1 and such - doc1 doc1hsyvv aaaaaah!



    But I digress....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    but alas friending your students is the highlight of every teachers evening......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Powerhouse


    Would it be wrong to ring/email the principal to express my anger that they would not give me the decent respect of a rejection phone call/letter? Traveled 5 hours in total for the interview (which I am aware has little or nothing to do with this) and the least i expected was the common courtesy of a reply afterwards. Do principals/BOM realise how demoralising and downright insulting it is to young teachers to be treated this shabbily? Rant over, but I do believe this is a common problem.


    As has been pointed out there are arguments for not doing so but it is terrible that schools can get away with such despicable carry-on because it's an employer's market. It'd cost them nothing in time and effort to have a standard 'Dear John' for all unsuccessful candidates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    TheDriver wrote: »
    You state principals shouldn't be in the job if they have bad IT skills, well NQTs can have appalling IT skills, even hand written application forms for jobs, poor spelling. The list goes on and on.

    I agree you should have gotten a letter but I am sure there are many other factors associated with this. As for phone calls, I would hate to ring someone to say they didn't get the job, its like telling them about a bereavement and the risk of someone going on at length.

    I'd agree with most things you post on this forum, but I'd have to disagree with you on this one. A standard PFO costs nothing and all schools have secretaries. If it's VEC, then the VEC will deal with the rejections. If it's voluntary secondary, a standard letter 'We regret to inform you that you have not been successful on this occasion, we wish you all the best in your teaching career' would not go amiss. It's highly unprofessional not to send one out and leave people hanging.

    Particularly when the same schools make people jump through hoops in terms of the paperwork they expect them to send in, CVs, letters of application copies of transcripts, photos, application forms, five copies of everything.

    A template letter where only the person's name needs to be filled in can be printed off by the secetary in two minutes. The vast majority of schools are not interviewing for 10 different positions anyway, normally only one or two so the number of letters they have to send isn't overwhelming. It could also be done by email if schools were trying to keep the costs down. I know a friend of mine got a PFO by email recently, obviously not happy at not getting the job but glad to know the outcome one way or the other.

    This isn't a new thing either, this was happening when I finished college and was applying for jobs, when there were more jobs and less teaching graduates. In my experience, VECs are better at informing candidates of the outcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    I'd agree with most things you post on this forum, but I'd have to disagree with you on this one. A standard PFO costs nothing and all schools have secretaries. If it's VEC, then the VEC will deal with the rejections. If it's voluntary secondary, a standard letter 'We regret to inform you that you have not been successful on this occasion, we wish you all the best in your teaching career' would not go amiss. It's highly unprofessional not to send one out and leave people hanging.

    Particularly when the same schools make people jump through hoops in terms of the paperwork they expect them to send in, CVs, letters of application copies of transcripts, photos, application forms, five copies of everything.

    A template letter where only the person's name needs to be filled in can be printed off by the secetary in two minutes. The vast majority of schools are not interviewing for 10 different positions anyway, normally only one or two so the number of letters they have to send isn't overwhelming. It could also be done by email if schools were trying to keep the costs down. I know a friend of mine got a PFO by email recently, obviously not happy at not getting the job but glad to know the outcome one way or the other.

    This isn't a new thing either, this was happening when I finished college and was applying for jobs, when there were more jobs and less teaching graduates. In my experience, VECs are better at informing candidates of the outcome.

    To be fair, I agree with yu that they should have gotten a letter, something I would always do. I was merely saying that some schools have unusual set ups. Could be to save money. Something that does come up from this from reading posts is:
    a) VEC schools, its the school sends the rejection letter
    b) Secretaries may be laden down with start of year prep and letters might be down the list of priorities
    c) letters take no time at all if you know how, some schools are very antiquated with 1 PC and printer for whole admin

    I am not making excuses and again, you should get an email/letter but some schools don't do that.
    They should but they don't. but back to the OP, I wouldn't go complaining because you will get a name for yourself and not in a good way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    TheDriver wrote: »
    To be fair, I agree with yu that they should have gotten a letter, something I would always do. I was merely saying that some schools have unusual set ups. Could be to save money. Something that does come up from this from reading posts is:
    a) VEC schools, its the school sends the rejection letter
    b) Secretaries may be laden down with start of year prep and letters might be down the list of priorities
    c) letters take no time at all if you know how, some schools are very antiquated with 1 PC and printer for whole admin

    I am not making excuses and again, you should get an email/letter but some schools don't do that.
    They should but they don't. but back to the OP, I wouldn't go complaining because you will get a name for yourself and not in a good way.


    This I do agree with, probably the best way of unfortunately being labelled a troublemaker and being blacklisted.


    As a general rule of thumb I would suggest if you haven't heard from them either way within 2 weeks you haven't got the job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭wolfyboy555


    Just had a vec interview. I forgot to ask when I would hear fom them. Would the successful candidate be phoned today or would it be next week?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    you would hear very very quickly because they want you sorted for start of the year. Thats if you get the job, you may not hear at all if you don't going by this thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 525 ✭✭✭vamos!


    I have to say that I understand the Principal's perspective but find it incredibly rude not to hear back after an interview. Hundreds may apply for the position but hundreds are not interviewed. If the office and/or Principal can call a select few for interview, the same few can be contacted to say they were not successful. It is basic manners and a standard letter or even email would suffice. I have had Principals call, email or send a letter in the past. I even had one lady ring after my first interview to tell me that I didn't get the job but she stayed on the phone and went through the good and bad of my interview so I could improve! That was above and beyond the call of duty but great advice which I remember 5 years on...
    I don't know if it's because I am getting tired of the interview scene but this year has been really bad. I have had a horrible interview and no rejection letters for the first time. I hop this doesn't become the norm. It could also be down to frustrated Principals who have no wriggle room with the timetable this year and are busy trying to perform miracles with teacher cuts though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    Just had a vec interview. I forgot to ask when I would hear fom them. Would the successful candidate be phoned today or would it be next week?

    Best of luck with that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭wolfyboy555


    Best of luck with that.

    Thank you. No word today so if not by Monday i'l just assume I didn't get it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭sitstill


    I had one today also. I'd say they'll ring the successful candidate on Monday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    Thank you. No word today so if not by Monday i'l just assume I didn't get it?

    In my experience it means you did not get it. Was it with a VEC? If so maybe Monday.

    If not the principal would usually ring you in the evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭wolfyboy555


    Yeah vec! Fingers crossed for Monday. Is there anyone else here with no hours yet for September? What is your plan of action if you do not get any?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    Yeah vec! Fingers crossed for Monday. Is there anyone else here with no hours yet for September? What is your plan of action if you do not get any?

    Was the principal of the school on the interview panel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭wolfyboy555


    Yeah he was! I was also asked in the middle if I am qualified to teach applied maths....which i am not. I felt this may have hindered my chances. Although the ad never mentioned applied maths at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    Yeah he was! I was also asked in the middle if I am qualified to teach applied maths....which i am not. I felt this may have hindered my chances. Although the ad never mentioned applied maths at all.

    I would say with 99% certainty you did not get the job. Sorry about that. But ifs from bitter experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭wolfyboy555


    I would say with 99% certainty you did not get the job. Sorry about that. But ifs from bitter experience.

    Could be right! It was my first proper interview so I would imagine there was better candidates on the day!

    On a side note....I have read plenty of posts here about the job already being taken and the interview just being done for the sake of it. My question is how do you know that is the case? Do people find out who got the job and then investigate their connection to the school. And for the conspiracy theorists out there, I have seen a theory that these 'staged' interviews will call NQT's as they will notice it less. The guy before me was also a NQT....hence the conspiracy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    Could be right! It was my first proper interview so I would imagine there was better candidates on the day!

    On a side note....I have read plenty of posts here about the job already being taken and the interview just being done for the sake of it. My question is how do you know that is the case? Do people find out who got the job and then investigate their connection to the school. And for the conspiracy theorists out there, I have seen a theory that these 'staged' interviews will call NQT's as they will notice it less. The guy before me was also a NQT....hence the conspiracy!

    Most permanent jobs if not all are gone.

    I went for 3 interviews last year.

    Two of them I did not get but I knew beforehand that there was people already earmarked for those jobs.

    I knew people in the schools already and had a heads up.

    Unless you have a few contacts you just don't know.

    However of those two interviews I treated them like any other and gave it my utmost.

    I dont think there is a specific policy about calling NQTs. I suspect you just had a very good CV.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭wolfyboy555


    I would say with 99% certainty you did not get the job. Sorry about that. But ifs from bitter experience.

    Got the phonecall today....got the post! :D only about half hours but still better than nothing!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    Got the phonecall today....got the post! :D only about half hours but still better than nothing!!

    happy to be wrong. Well done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 574 ✭✭✭bdoo


    I would say with 99% certainty you did not get the job. Sorry about that. But ifs from bitter experience.

    Got the phonecall today....got the post! :D only about half hours but still better than nothing!!

    Well done wolfyboy. Great to see some positive news here.

    Proves that it's not a closed shop and jobs are not pre appointed with show interviews. some highly paranoid people on here :-o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭thefasteriwalk


    Got the phonecall today....got the post! :D only about half hours but still better than nothing!!

    Well done, Wolfboy! That's great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭wolfyboy555


    Thanks everyone. Fingers crossed everyone else looking gets sorted with something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    bdoo wrote: »
    Proves that it's not a closed shop and jobs are not pre appointed with show interviews. some highly paranoid people on here :-o

    One swallow does not make a summer

    Without wanting to dampen the positivity I know of several occasions where jobs are gone before the interview to people already in the school. This is from knowing the people in the job. And in my own situation this year.

    I also know of two people who retired this year and their children are now in their jobs.

    Of course this is not always the case. There are real jobs out there. But a significant amount of RPT and Permanent jobs are gone to someone in the before the interview and those going for interview were wasting their time thinking they were going for a job.

    Not paranoia just a fact.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭seavill


    A contract going to someone already in the school is a completely different issue to jobs going to "sons and daughters".

    I can guarantee if the school had a choice not to interview for someone already in the school they would not but they have to. Its a stupid system but they have to follow the rules. Its not the principal's fault your time has been wasted.

    This happened me twice I was called for a last minute sick leave (literally start the next morning) could have been anyone, technically the post was a week to week sick leave until a certain point when the person did not return, then the post had to be advertised. I was doing a good job, had settled in the school, kids knew me teachers knew me etc. Now what principal in their right mind would upset all the classes mid year, for someone who is doing a very good job, but technically they have to advertise.

    Other jobs that Allegedly go to a family member, very few and far between but the shame on the whole thing is no matter how good that teacher is, or was in the interview they will never have got the job on merit to the outside world. Maybe some of these people (the sons and daughters) are actually the best people for the job out of the people that applied. This will be true in a certain amount of cases and untrue at other times.

    Sweeping statement is so insulting to everyone involved, as I said before if people are constantly getting rejected from jobs or not getting called for interview in numerous schools it can't always be the fault of the principal hiring their family, maybe the issue is with that person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    seavill wrote: »
    A contract going to someone already in the school is a completely different issue to jobs going to "sons and daughters".

    Thats true but its a bit annoying from the prospective of others being interviewed.
    I can guarantee if the school had a choice not to interview for someone already in the school they would not but they have to. Its a stupid system but they have to follow the rules. Its not the principal's fault your time has been wasted.

    True but if someone is already in the job or school could this not be stated before or after the interview?
    This happened me twice I was called for a last minute sick leave (literally start the next morning) could have been anyone, technically the post was a week to week sick leave until a certain point when the person did not return, then the post had to be advertised. I was doing a good job, had settled in the school, kids knew me teachers knew me etc. Now what principal in their right mind would upset all the classes mid year, for someone who is doing a very good job, but technically they have to advertise.

    Same thing happened for me, but surely other candidates could be told before or after the interview.

    Other jobs that Allegedly go to a family member, very few and far between but the shame on the whole thing is no matter how good that teacher is, or was in the interview they will never have got the job on merit to the outside world.

    True

    Maybe some of these people (the sons and daughters) are actually the best people for the job out of the people that applied. This will be true in a certain amount of cases and untrue at other times.

    True
    Sweeping statement is so insulting to everyone involved, as I said before if people are constantly getting rejected from jobs or not getting called for interview in numerous schools it can't always be the fault of the principal hiring their family, maybe the issue is with that person.

    Yes sweeping statements are insulting.

    Agree with most of what your saying re stupidity of recruitment policy where someone is in the job already, but I do think the whole process could be much more transparent, for example a marking scheme given to each interviewee


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭smallgarden


    i had two interviews where i suspect job was long gone.one was definitely gone to person in the job already and past pupil so hadnt a hope.
    on another note i applied to job advertised earlier in summer.no word from them. same subject but till christmas was readvertised monday,closing date tomorrow.rang today to see when interviews would be. was told letters were being sent out today to people about when the interviews would be on. rang back later in day to see if was being called to interview as it was few hours away so was hoping for some notice and to try not clash with another interview and was told by same person interviews had been held and position was filled. the closing date is tomorrow,very odd!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭seavill


    In fairness who is actually going to turn up for interview if it is stated that the job is already gone.

    If no one turns up then there is no point in advertising it. So you are back to square one with that logic.

    It is very unfair, I have told the story somewhere here before of 2 friends of mine coming from Dublin for an interview in the south of the country for a job that was already mine as I had been in the school for 3 months at that stage. They got time off work for it which makes it even worse but the principal is in a terrible position here in all fairness.

    In the 2nd post the principal told me there was one person who was completely level with me after the interview nothing to separate us except for the fact that I was already there, so I would assume that if something came up this person would be top of her list if needed so in some cases it may help someone in another way for another post.

    Yes possibly open marking scheme may help alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    seavill wrote: »
    In fairness who is actually going to turn up for interview if it is stated that the job is already gone.

    If no one turns up then there is no point in advertising it. So you are back to square one with that logic.

    People would turn up for the experience and saying someone is already in the school and is being interviewed is not saying that person is going to get the job.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭seavill


    You have seen how much giving out is done for jobs that are already gone and what a waste of time going to the interview was.

    I would guess that maybe 2% of people would actually go to an interview for a position that was advertised as already gone.

    Yes but we are talking about the cases so far that that is the situation.

    If that person was not going to get the job or possibly not get it, why did you suggest in the first place that it be advertised as such


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    Would it be wrong to ring/email the principal to express my anger that they would not give me the decent respect of a rejection phone call/letter? Traveled 5 hours in total for the interview (which I am aware has little or nothing to do with this) and the least i expected was the common courtesy of a reply afterwards. Do principals/BOM realise how demoralising and downright insulting it is to young teachers to be treated this shabbily? Rant over, but I do believe this is a common problem.

    this can happen. a letter of rejection especially around this time of year will be issued within a week.
    principals have been securely employed for years and have no idea what it is like to be job seeking. they expect you to spend the holiday period sitting at home twiddling your thumbs and being prepared for an interview with less than an hours notice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    Just been offered a 16 hour EPT job closer to home for a position I though was gone to an "insider"!!

    And after all my talk:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭seavill


    Just been offered a 16 hour EPT job closer to home for a position I though was gone to an "insider"!!

    And after all my talk:)

    Just goes to show everyone take every interview at face value and put your all into it as the principal is probably the only one who really knows whats going on.

    Best of luck with the job. I wonder who you knew within management to get that one:P:P:P (only joking)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭wolfyboy555


    Just been offered a 16 hour EPT job closer to home for a position I though was gone to an "insider"!!

    And after all my talk:)

    Nice! Congrats!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 Patches22


    Hi all
    Just wondering in ye'r experience how long does it take before someone hears back from interviews? And does it vary depending on type of school? Do you hear back even if you've been unsuccessful? Sorry about the twenty questions just new to this interview business :o and have searched through posts but to no avail...
    cheers


    edit - this was moved, I am presuming because it should have been here in the first place. Somehow missed this post beforehand, so apologies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭bearhugs


    In my experience, the sooner you hear the better the news will be. If you were successful you will usually be contacted within a day or two. However, it's also possible and I've heard of it happening many times, that the job may go to someone else, who then rejects it after a few weeks after maybe getting a better offer. It's so tough doing interview after interview, but chin up hopefully you will get something! Usually you would get a letter if you don't get the job. Again this is from my experience, it's a couple of years since I've been in that position thank God, so maybe someone else has a different perspective. Good luck OP!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 Patches22


    bearhugs wrote: »
    In my experience, the sooner you hear the better the news will be. If you were successful you will usually be contacted within a day or two. However, it's also possible and I've heard of it happening many times, that the job may go to someone else, who then rejects it after a few weeks after maybe getting a better offer. It's so tough doing interview after interview, but chin up hopefully you will get something! Usually you would get a letter if you don't get the job. Again this is from my experience, it's a couple of years since I've been in that position thank God, so maybe someone else has a different perspective. Good luck OP!

    Thanks bearhugs I appreciate the speedy post reply :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    Patches22 wrote: »
    Hi all
    Just wondering in ye'r experience how long does it take before someone hears back from interviews? And does it vary depending on type of school? Do you hear back even if you've been unsuccessful? Sorry about the twenty questions just new to this interview business :o and have searched through posts but to no avail...
    cheers


    edit - this was moved, I am presuming because it should have been here in the first place. Somehow missed this post beforehand, so apologies

    From my experience it is usually that evening or the day after the interview that the principal rings you, although I did an interview on Friday for a job and heard back today that I got it.

    If you don't get it you usually get a letter within 3 postal days of the interview.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 574 ✭✭✭bdoo


    Some of the VEC's are very good at it. In some cases if you apply online you will be informed by email if you were unsuccessful with a phonetically if you got the job.

    Even getting on a panel is good though as other posts may arise during the year and can b filled from the panel.


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