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Daylight Robbery

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Dont be daft


    Tipp Man wrote: »
    Have you guys read this? It is nothing short of daylight robbery by the councils

    The IFA need to get involved in a big way against this


    How on earth can the councils justify these charges? And for what, to pay the huge salaries of the useless f***** rs. This needs decisive and strong action right now

    http://www.independent.ie/farming/news-features/councils-impose-huge-charges-on-new-sheds-3200119.html


    Heard about it a few weeks ago but thought it was confined to Kildare Co. Co.
    Even then I'd heard that they were trying to backtrack as they hadn't envisaged farms being brought into it.
    To hear its a nationwide issue is puzzling.

    How do they think for a minute that they're gonna get away with it?

    I really feel for anyone that has building planned and will have to delay because of these idiots.

    I wouldnt even consider this as an IFA issue. What was Simon Coveney thinking when this slipped through? The pressure to reverse this should be coming from national gov.

    Harvest 2020 and then the Co. Co. come up with this. Is there any kind of cohesion between local and national gov in this country at all?

    I get the idea behind it. Its to drive up Co. Co. revenue by taxing the balls out of developements. Cant argue with that, bout 10 years to late but whatever.
    But to have no kind exemption for agriculture really boggles the mind. I mean seriously, what kind of brain dead clowns come up with this stuff?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    Well considering that that a load of developers have never paid their development fees since the boom maybe it should be just treated as an empty threat aswell .
    The co co 's are a disgrace :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    Is that going on in every county. plans to build (postponed again unfortunately)next year and i think i'll be chancing without planning if thats the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭tismesoitis


    we got planning recently for 4 bay slatted shed and one of the conditions was we had to pay just over €4000 for access to public road and maintainance of green areas:eek: you would think it was a feckin house we were building and breaking a new entrance onto a road.
    Turns out if you can prove the new build is being done to prevent polution or comply with nitrates directive the charges will be waved.
    We have sent in a letter from our teagasc advisor to the council sort this out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    Is it any wonder why the environmental section of county councils push so hard for new building/storage facilities to be built enforcing things to the letter of the law. oh, ah, now I can see a link


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭BrianDug


    I am not from a farming background, but those proposed costs are crazy considering your building on your own land.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,025 ✭✭✭Tipp Man


    BrianDug wrote: »
    I am not from a farming background, but those proposed costs are crazy considering your building on your own land.
    And not using public amenities such as sewage, lighting, roads

    It's an absolute joke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Everybody thinks that farming is a cash cow that can be milked over the next few years, They forget that the profit margins are very tight. What a lot of farmers would want to be aware of is building something that they have no planning for. Then they will screw you catch you for retropective planning and development fees.

    This will all get sorted in time, when councils and government relise that because of this harvest 20-20 is a pipe dream ( and more than likly is anyway). If you intend to build apply for planing get it when they demand the development fees tell them that because of the fees you cannot go ahead. 2 years down the line 2-3K of projects held up by stupid regulations will get the government worked up.

    I also see that some of the councils are targeting intensive production units over 750 pigs and 200 cow units and chicken housing. Looking at harvest 20-20 with 20-20 vision it is looking like it will die a slow death over the next 20 months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    anyone thinking of development of buildings over the next few years would be best getting planning asap as next they will be automatically demanding a impact assessment for each and ever leanto, hay barn etc. Im currently at a shed (12months and counting) but if there was a development levy it probably wouldn't have being built. I assume if you don't apply for planning and build away, it will be allot harder to collect the levy:roll eyes:

    Didn't anyone seriously think harvest 2020 was/is for real. unless it happens by accident and the farmers decided this is where they want to go, the government will be as good as a chocolate fireguard in making it happen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,025 ✭✭✭Tipp Man


    This is only the start of it

    Next is the asset means testing for student grants

    Then will be a land/asset tax

    Make no mistake this won't stop until we are all broke from paying tax


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