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Golf Iron Recommendations

  • 15-08-2012 5:40pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20


    I'm buying new irons soon but I'm not 100% sure which I want. I'm off 17 and I don't want game improvement irons such as ping g15 etc. I'd prefer Titleist ap2 irons or similar. I like the project x 5.0 shaft. Whats the best irons that are a bit forgiving but not too chunky?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭Quandary


    Maybe try the Titleist AP1 irons.

    I'm currently using them and find them really good!im off 20 btw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭Nozebleed


    mizuno mp53. im off 17 at the mo..but im realistically a 10 handicapper. they're worth trying out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Ryan29


    I was thinking about callaway x22's, titleist ap2's or taylormade mc's. Does anyone know anything about these?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭Quandary


    I have hit the AP2's in the range on two separate occasions. They are lovely clubs but you really need to be striking the ball very well to get the most out of them. No where near as forgiving as the AP1's.

    I initially wanted to buy a set of AP2 irons but after demoing them, I decided to go for the AP1's.

    If you are based around Dublin/Kildare and have transport, Cellbridge driving range has a golf shop attached to it. They currently have 2 sets of AP2's. The owner is bang on and will let you hit them a few times if you aks him nicely :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Jazzzman


    Ryan29 wrote: »
    I was thinking about callaway x22's, titleist ap2's or taylormade mc's. Does anyone know anything about these?

    i play x22s and I think they're very good irons but I'd label them as game improvers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    If you like Titleist go to the fitting centre in Carton. No point in dealing in wishy washy "I likes", try out all the shafts/heads/loft & angle combinations and find out what actually suits you. You're not in a position to know what is the right one for you, but in half an hour they will be able to tell you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    If you like Titleist go to the fitting centre in Carton. No point in dealing in wishy washy "I likes", try out all the shafts/heads/loft & angle combinations and find out what actually suits you. You're not in a position to know what is the right one for you, but in half an hour they will be able to tell you.

    Got fitted for my driver from one of the guys there. While the conditions didnt lend to an accurate fitting, he was really sound and didn't bull**** me.

    As he explained, a fitter is as good as his rep, and a bad fitting is the worst thing that can happen to a fitter.

    So you always know your in safe hands when getting fitted.

    Have to say, I want to get looked at with my Taylor Made Burner irons. Striking the ball lovely, but realised they were Reg shafts when I thought they were stiff. So concerned I could be getting more from my irons.

    Foregolf seem the only recognised Taylor Made fitter, and want €100 for an hour analysis, and if new shafts are required, its about €500 .

    **** that ****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Jazzzman


    TheDoc wrote: »
    Got fitted for my driver from one of the guys there. While the conditions didnt lend to an accurate fitting, he was really sound and didn't bull**** me.

    As he explained, a fitter is as good as his rep, and a bad fitting is the worst thing that can happen to a fitter.

    So you always know your in safe hands when getting fitted.

    Have to say, I want to get looked at with my Taylor Made Burner irons. Striking the ball lovely, but realised they were Reg shafts when I thought they were stiff. So concerned I could be getting more from my irons.

    Foregolf seem the only recognised Taylor Made fitter, and want €100 for an hour analysis, and if new shafts are required, its about €500 .

    **** that ****
    how much did the fitting at carton cost?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    TheDoc wrote: »
    Got fitted for my driver from one of the guys there. While the conditions didnt lend to an accurate fitting, he was really sound and didn't bull**** me.

    As he explained, a fitter is as good as his rep, and a bad fitting is the worst thing that can happen to a fitter.

    So you always know your in safe hands when getting fitted.

    Have to say, I want to get looked at with my Taylor Made Burner irons. Striking the ball lovely, but realised they were Reg shafts when I thought they were stiff. So concerned I could be getting more from my irons.

    Foregolf seem the only recognised Taylor Made fitter, and want €100 for an hour analysis, and if new shafts are required, its about €500 .

    **** that ****


    And then you have nothing from ForeGolf unless you buy from them, that's when the costs really stack up. But there are several posts about that hereabouts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    TheDoc wrote: »
    Have to say, I want to get looked at with my Taylor Made Burner irons. Striking the ball lovely, but realised they were Reg shafts when I thought they were stiff. So concerned I could be getting more from my irons.

    Foregolf seem the only recognised Taylor Made fitter, and want €100 for an hour analysis, and if new shafts are required, its about €500 .

    **** that ****

    The TaylorMade tour truck comes to these shores periodically and do demo days and custom fittings so that may be a better option. The upcoming demo days are shown in the McGuirks website but I don't see anything in the coming month or two for TaylorMade.

    The OP mentioned the TaylorMade MC irons and although I've never hit them think they're a lovely looking club and will be seriously considering them myself when I upgrade my clubs later in the year. A few tour pros using them along with the TaylorMade MB irons.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 187 ✭✭peepee


    For me its always Mizuno. Check out http://golf.mizunoeurope.com/irons/ for a simple overview of their range based on handicaps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    peepee wrote: »
    For me its always Mizuno. Check out http://golf.mizunoeurope.com/irons/ for a simple overview of their range based on handicaps.

    Mizuno's are beautiful looking irons and play really well but a negative point for Mizuno in that they don't make a 2 iron, any reason why? Want a 2 iron with my next set of irons and would like to keep them matching.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 187 ✭✭peepee


    I thought most manufacturers were moving away from low irons ? Mizuno do have the fli hi irons which are very easy to hit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭link_2007


    peepee wrote: »
    For me its always Mizuno. Check out http://golf.mizunoeurope.com/irons/ for a simple overview of their range based on handicaps.

    Whats the difference between forgiveness and workability?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 269 ✭✭MP62


    link_2007 wrote: »
    peepee wrote: »
    For me its always Mizuno. Check out http://golf.mizunoeurope.com/irons/ for a simple overview of their range based on handicaps.

    Whats the difference between forgiveness and workability?
    Forgiveness means a slightly bigger sweet spot with more heel and toe weighting making it harder to intentionally draw and fade the ball.
    So more forgiveness means less workability and vice versa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭link_2007


    Was having a look at the Mizuno JPX 800 irons but they're a bit outside my price range. Does anyone know if they replaced an older model that I may be able to pick up slightly cheaper?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Jazzzman wrote: »
    how much did the fitting at carton cost?

    I didn't go to Carton House. They have two Titleist fitters who travel around the country to driving ranges and golf clubs and offer free fittings.

    My fitting was free, regardless if I buy or not. I'm sure it is a way to promote sales, but he didn't treat it like a free fitting, he was really professional and honest which I found most assuring.

    My Father went down to just "check" his driver, literally taking advantage of the fitting service. Curiosity got the better of him as he tried the AP irons, your man gave him his fit and told him how his current clubs were totally wrong for him.

    Da ended up spending buying the irons (fitting was free as was the build of the custom irons from factory) and I've never seen him hit better irons.

    An old friend who I grew up playing golf with is head fitter down there now, and I'd be confident as **** going down there to get fitted for things. Only problem is obviously its Titleist fitting only.( I assume)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    And then you have nothing from ForeGolf unless you buy from them, that's when the costs really stack up. But there are several posts about that hereabouts.

    Yeah, I had a chat with a friend who went out and while he admitted the service, staff and facilities are top class, its absolutely outragous money.

    I might have a look as the poster above said and keep sketch on the Taylor Made fitting days, and the club pro said there will most likely be a day in the club for TM next year at some point.

    As I said my major concern is that I have Reg shafts when I think I should be stiff. I had a nosey on Ebay and about and I can pickup a set of the TM OEM Stiff shafts for cheap enough, and then throw one of the fellas I know a few bob to put them in.

    I'd say getting irons custom fitted and build is cheaper when buying new, rather then customising current .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    You can also buy second hand fairly cheaply. One or two models ago in irons, that are in good shape, are going to be as good as the real thing. When I went for the Titleist fitting they tell you what suits you, the exact spec. You cant buy from them, typically they give the spec to your club pro who organises the purchase. But you can take the spec and buy the same in the older model. If you need a different lie or loft you can go to someone local, usually 5 or 10 euro a club will do the trick. So you have a set of perfect premium irons custom fit for 400 instead of 850.

    Of course, I was a sucker, and I went for the new clubs. D'Oh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭taylorconor95


    link_2007 wrote: »
    Whats the difference between forgiveness and workability?

    Workability: Make the ball do what you want, cuts, draws, backspin etc.

    Forgiveness: You don't have to hit the ball off the sweet spot of the club to make it become a good shot


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭elberry


    Mizuno MP 59 and the new Adams CMB are popular with a little forgiveness worth a look, the AP2 is another very good iron.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭WRENALDO


    I was playing off around 17 too a couple of years back and bought the King Cobra S9 irons (very reasonable around 300 euro) They changed my game completely . Started hitting the ball higher,longer and straighter (which covers everything really!) I am now a single figure handicapper. And no i don't work for King Cobra !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭the lawman


    I am feeling like changing my irons shortly and I was thinking of AP2s and a fitting in Tiltiest centre. Can anyone see any reason not to do this or reasons to go for it without hesitation?

    I play off 12 and I currently use Foregolf fitted Burner 2.0's. Advice very welcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    the lawman wrote: »
    I am feeling like changing my irons shortly and I was thinking of AP2s and a fitting in Tiltiest centre. Can anyone see any reason not to do this or reasons to go for it without hesitation?

    I play off 12 and I currently use Foregolf fitted Burner 2.0's. Advice very welcome.

    If going the Titleist and Titleist fitting centre route would you not also consider the Titleist CB 712 irons or even a mix of the CB 712 in the long irons and the MB 712 in the short irons? Lovely looking clubs.
    Thinking of changing irons this year also and thinking of a combination of the TaylorMade MC and MB but also the above Titleists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭the lawman


    If going the Titleist and Titleist fitting centre route would you not also consider the Titleist CB 712 irons or even a mix of the CB 712 in the long irons and the MB 712 in the short irons? Lovely looking clubs.
    Thinking of changing irons this year also and thinking of a combination of the TaylorMade MC and MB but also the above Titleists.

    Cheers for that. Are the CB's cavity backs and the MB muscle/blades then?

    Is cost the only differenece between CB and AP2? I'm really ignorant when it comes to the Titleist irons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭neddynasty


    I got a set of new Wilson Staff CI9 irons during the summer for approx €275. Lovely set of clubs. They were on sale cause the CI11 version is out. Lovely strike off the ball. Would recommend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭Alrite Chief


    Nozebleed wrote: »
    mizuno mp53. im off 17 at the mo..but im realistically a 10 handicapper. they're worth trying out.
    Love this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 dozer11


    Anyone how much your talking € wise for a full fitting session and a new set of custom AP1's down in Carton?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭the lawman


    dozer11 wrote: »
    Anyone how much your talking € wise for a full fitting session and a new set of custom AP1's down in Carton?

    I wouldn't say there would be much change from 800. It depends on what shafts etc they fit you with.

    I believe a fitting alone without buying clubs is €90.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭goodgolfer64


    Mizuno's are beautiful looking irons and play really well but a negative point for Mizuno in that they don't make a 2 iron, any reason why? Want a 2 iron with my next set of irons and would like to keep them matching.
    how many people in the real golf world carry a 2 iron pal???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭goodgolfer64


    your best and only way to go is find a driving range/pro shop that will let you have a hit of a few diff clubs.....no point total strangers commenting on what they like....see and feel them for yourself...let the ball flight make up your mind!!!! often if you are well keen a good pro will follow you out 2 range and see if the sole of the club is flat or upright to the ground in helping you with fitting....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,865 ✭✭✭TRS30


    how many people in the real golf world carry a 2 iron pal???

    I have just picked one up and going to use it next season after some practice during the winter.

    Need to hit the ball lower into the wind on par 5s and hybrids hit the ball too high.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭goodgolfer64


    TRS30 wrote: »
    I have just picked one up and going to use it next season after some practice during the winter.

    Need to hit the ball lower into the wind on par 5s and hybrids hit the ball too high.

    honestly...try a 17 degree hybrid...you wont have that problem...i cant get mine over trees....flies 240-255...rocket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 dozer11


    honestly...try a 17 degree hybrid...you wont have that problem...i cant get mine over trees....flies 240-255...rocket.

    What brand you using? Any recommendations?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,865 ✭✭✭TRS30


    honestly...try a 17 degree hybrid...you wont have that problem...i cant get mine over trees....flies 240-255...rocket.

    I have a 17 degree hybrid and it still goes very high. Hybrids by their nature are designed to hit the ball high. If there is one the is designed to hit the ball low then I'd love to hear about it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭saintastic


    the lawman wrote: »
    I wouldn't say there would be much change from 800. It depends on what shafts etc they fit you with.

    I believe a fitting alone without buying clubs is €90.

    If you go for a 30 minute fitting which generally would be to get fitted for one or two clubs, it's €70.

    To do a full analysis of your whole bag, it costs €100 and lasts for an hour. I did the full hour around 4/6 weeks ago and it was excellent. I have a ping 3 wood and he said it was perfect, no need to change it and same for my Srixon hybrid. The only area he said to look at was the driver as I wasn't using the optimum shaft. He fitted me with the correct shaft and pointed out the improvement on the Trackman software with the new club and more importantly the correct shaft.

    It was great to get to a position where I now know that my whole bag is right and it is only the Indian's fault from here on in!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭goodgolfer64


    TRS30 wrote: »
    I have a 17 degree hybrid and it still goes very high. Hybrids by their nature are designed to hit the ball high. If there is one the is designed to hit the ball low then I'd love to hear about it.

    17 degrees is less loft than a 2 iron!!! if your hitting a 17deg high what height is a 22+degree going???
    are you skying the ball by any chance??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,865 ✭✭✭TRS30


    17 degrees is less loft than a 2 iron!!! if your hitting a 17deg high what height is a 22+degree going???
    are you skying the ball by any chance??

    My 2 iron is 18 degs and going to get it bend to 17.

    Hybrids are designed to hit the ball high. Long irons are not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭dubber


    Check out the Callaway Razr X Tour, look neat at address, but plenty of forgiveness.


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