best choice for a beginner?

thegreatiam

one on one training or group classes?

I live close to a few reputable gyms and would like to start taking classes. my problem is i cant get done with work til 6pm and most classes start at that time. some are at 7 pm but it would mean rushing home to get to the gym.

Would i be able to speed up the learning process with one on one training for technique and training myself fitness wise?

If i can get the basics under my belt i can join an 'advanced' class as most seem to be later in the evening 730 onwards.

or are the lessons learned in the group classes too important? can 1on1 teaching compensate for the group learning experience and motivation?

Chris89

thegreatiam wrote: »

one on one training or group classes?

I live close to a few reputable gyms and would like to start taking classes. my problem is i cant get done with work til 6pm and most classes start at that time. some are at 7 pm but it would mean rushing home to get to the gym.

Would i be able to speed up the learning process with one on one training for technique and training myself fitness wise?

If i can get the basics under my belt i can join an 'advanced' class as most seem to be later in the evening 730 onwards.

or are the lessons learned in the group classes too important? can 1on1 teaching compensate for the group learning experience and motivation?

What martial art are you interested in, Private lessons can be a great idea if you get a good teacher, however in my experience private lessons without any group training is far from ideal.

cowzerp

Private lessons are great but if your only sparring partner is the coach then you may be getting whooped and unable to practise your techniques on someone who is at your level-Would do no harm getting 1 on 1 training and using techniques in class when you can make it though,

ps, most coaches would not be available for 1 on 1's in evenings anyway as they would be busy teaching classes.

thegreatiam

well, i still need to finalise the actual classes, depending on location and time of class, but most likely boxing/muai thai or judo/bjj

I think any of these has a fairly quick progression from complete beginner to able to hold your own without being a danger to your self.

if i can get up to speed in a few weeks of 1on1 coaching it saves me a lot of hassle rushing home from work to the gym

thegreatiam

cowzerp wrote: »

Private lessons are great but if your only sparring partner is the coach then you may be getting whooped and unable to practise your techniques on someone who is at your level-Would do no harm getting 1 on 1 training and using techniques in class when you can make it though,

ps, most coaches would not be available for 1 on 1's in evenings anyway as they would be busy teaching classes.

Would you advise taking a private lesson to learn the basic techniques and then drilling solo is worth while? or even something like boxersize just to learn the form and movements. not something i would choose but if i cant get to a beginner class then id be pretty stuck

cowzerp

thegreatiam wrote: »

Would you advise taking a private lesson to learn the basic techniques and then drilling solo is worth while? or even something like boxersize just to learn the form and movements. not something i would choose but if i cant get to a beginner class then id be pretty stuck

Boxercise is how to learn not to box, anyone who comes to me from Boxercise has learned such bad technique it is hard to get rid of it.

Depends on the sport, i assume your talking Boxing or Kickboxing types as seen as you mention Boxercise-You certainly could get 1 on 1 help then drill it on your own, on bag or shadow boxing etc..

Boxercise is fine for fitness but not for learning technique in Martial arts

thegreatiam

Well, as a last resort i can book a session 1on1 each weekend till the coach thinks im ready and practice myself either at home vs my shadow or in a boxersize gym, just cos i go to boxersize doesnt mean i have to listen to them ;-)

Edit: on a similar point, is there any worth to self coaching via video or youtube?

this is all in order to get me up to a minimum standard to graduate faster from beginner classes and not as a substitute to actual training

reganreggie

Would early moning group classes suit you better. Off the top of my head i can think of muay thai and a bjj club that meet at 7 or 8 in the morning. Where are you based?

thegreatiam

while it wouldnt be my first choice, im not gonna say no. im south side, in bluebell, but i work in dundrum, so anywhere near a luas is easy enough.

I only really need options to do a few months of beginners before i can get capable enough to join the more advanced classes at more suitable times.

i still need to speak to my boss to see if he will let me out early days a week. but he's away for a few weeks

Richy06

So you basically want to speed your way through a beginners programme in order to get into the advanced classes?
You live in Bluebell, which is a stone's throw from SBG and a Thai club or two I believe. Judging from what you said above, you want to train in multiple ranges/styles with a view to competing? The beginners classes start most evenings at 7. To progress to the advanced classes, you just need to put the time in and don't get bogged down in over thinking things and trying to rush your progress.

Andrew H

Any chance you can bring a gear bag with you and go straight from work to class?

Peetrik

I'd say get one or two privates max a week and go to normal training.

As was said, good instruction from a good padman who will correct you and hit you to get you used to blocking will greatly increase your rate of progression but its useless without getting a chance to practise in sparring, just ignore whatever the beginner padman tells you at normal training and concentrate on doing what the coach told you to do during the private lessons

Best of luck

First Aid Ireland

Black Panther Kickboxing Club in Tallaght has their classes from 8-10pm three times a week and sometimes at weekends too.

thegreatiam

yes im around the corner from sbg and a few mins further from chupasart thai boxing. both those clubs look really good. problem is the 6pm class time. Im going to see what i can do schedule wise and if i have to take a look at other places.

Im going to visit them both in the next few weeks to see what can be done. maybe consider asking someone for a few technical lessons 1on1 and put some time in on my own.

I hope i can get something sorted schedule wise.

Chris89

thegreatiam wrote: »

I think any of these has a fairly quick progression from complete beginner to able to hold your own without being a danger to your self.

If you have good instruction that might be the case but this definitely wont come from just private lessons, you need training partners of different shape, size and experience level.

Also it was mentioned above that you wouldnt be able to practice techniques sparring with your coach because he will be whopping you, if this is the case I think you need to find a new coach!

P.S I think if you really want to do something, you can make it to the class one hour after your work, where there is a will there is a way.

chprt

Thegreatiam

How are you? If its Thai you want then come to us, as we are a pure Muay Thai Gym with proper Thai boxing coaches.

Our classes start at 7pm, and everyone trains together, but you'll be with a paired with a beginner.

We do Privates as well, They are €30 an hour with one of our coaches.

Any probs feel free to post here

paddy

thegreatiam

well, im still researching, and i think i can get to beginner classes in striking at another club. splitting my time between 2 clubs isnt my first choice. hopefully this isnt disrespectful.

thegreatiam

paddy, thanks for posting. your club is on my list, ill be calling round in the next 2 weeks or so

RoboRat

Just a suggestion but could you work through lunch and get off early or is there any degree of flexibility with your job? I go in to work for 8pm now so I can get off at 4.30 and get to my classes.... might be worth asking, a lot of employers are a bit more flexible as they aren't giving pay raises!!!

Civilian Personal Protection

thegreatiam wrote: »

one on one training or group classes?

I live close to a few reputable gyms and would like to start taking classes. my problem is i cant get done with work til 6pm and most classes start at that time. some are at 7 pm but it would mean rushing home to get to the gym.

Would i be able to speed up the learning process with one on one training for technique and training myself fitness wise?

If i can get the basics under my belt i can join an 'advanced' class as most seem to be later in the evening 730 onwards.

or are the lessons learned in the group classes too important? can 1on1 teaching compensate for the group learning experience and motivation?

from the student perspective, a new student, one on one can ease the student into training. helping with confidence. also, having the direct attention of the instructor is great. Much progress can be made.

however, and i guess this also depends on what is being taught, but some things are much better in groups. Going against different people of different sizes, etc. and making freinds, connecting with fellow students. It's all really cool.

Once upon a time i went the way of one on one, and then classes. Really do what you feel is best. your first port if call for advice could be your teacher?

warmest wishes

Wayne