Unable to avail of confession in my Parish

gugleguy

I will not name and shame the parish, but, confession is the missing sacrament on this parishes website.
At the moment although I pay my christmas/easter/other dues to this parish, I mostly go to Mass for Sunday to other churches, for instance the Pro Cathedral Marlboro Street.
Is it ok to arrange to pay my dues to another parish - where I can avail of confession as a regular sacrament?
I'm more interested in that question actually, than name and shame.

Onesimus

gugleguy wrote: »

I will not name and shame the parish, but, confession is the missing sacrament on this parishes website.
At the moment although I pay my christmas/easter/other dues to this parish, I mostly go to Mass for Sunday to other churches, for instance the Pro Cathedral Marlboro Street.
Is it ok to arrange to pay my dues to another parish - where I can avail of confession as a regular sacrament?
I'm more interested in that question actually, than name and shame.

If you don't name and shame, then they'll never change their game. :pac:

Gugleguy, you need to first approach your parish priest and let him know that you would like to avail of this Sacrament and ask for reasons as to why it is never available. If ( and this is perhaps the most common response ) you get an answer along the lines of ''Well there never does be anyone here for confession so we dont bother unless someone asks'' then you should say: ''Is one soul worth nothing to you? I'd like to approach confession without having to ''ask'' and I feel that having this great Sacrament available every week regardless of the tumbleweeds is important because the light of the confessional reminds people that it does exist and that it is important.''

No matter what the reason may be the parish priest should have confession available and times for when confession can be availed of. So if the conversation with the priest is not successful then get your local diocese Bishop e-mail and let him know your concerns right away and point out the fact that you had first contacted the local administrator of the parish but that conversation failed.

Don't walk away. Stand up for your Clergy and laity. In the words of Martin Luther King : ''Never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well being of a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way.''

Onesimus

Snappy Smurf

I'd advise you to request the sacrament from the priest. You have a right to the sacraments under Canon Law and Christian duty of priests. Politely but firmly request the sacrament. If that comes to nothing, you may write to the bishop asking him to address the matter for you. Bishops are pastors of souls. You ought not to beg around the table for scraps like a dog - you have rights. So don't be made to feel small or worthless about this.

If this all proves fruitless, take yourself and your dues to a parish or religious community that cares. There you will find regular confession.

If you earn a wage, then you are supposed to support the Church where possible, but you can give money to Aid to the Church in Need instead. That way, you support the Church but not the status quo.

totus tuus

I know of some parishes that offer the Sacrament of Reconciliation on request only, perhaps that is the situation in your local church.

georgieporgy

gugleguy wrote: »

I will not name and shame the parish, but, confession is the missing sacrament on this parishes website.
At the moment although I pay my christmas/easter/other dues to this parish, I mostly go to Mass for Sunday to other churches, for instance the Pro Cathedral Marlboro Street.
Is it ok to arrange to pay my dues to another parish - where I can avail of confession as a regular sacrament?
I'm more interested in that question actually, than name and shame.

I'd be inclined to go the non confrontational route. Go to the church/parish you are happy with and spend your cash there.
If you have to get a priest out of bed to hear your confession, his heart may not be in it. Go instead to the guy who is awake and in his box. There are plenty around if you look.

skooterblue2

The church is thinly spread with priests its hard to get around to look after everyone. Maybe if you sinned less often or failing that felt less guilty by justifying your actions.

... I often ask Politicans how they went from budget surplus to calling in the IMF in two years. Are brains removed after membership fees have been paid or do they have special secret training camps for stupidity. Or there is a nice widow woman down the road, could you get her abducted or would you have to have a reason?

I feel less guilty about being rude to them.

Snappy Smurf

georgieporgy wrote: »

I'd be inclined to go the non confrontational route. Go to the church/parish you are happy with and spend your cash there.
If you have to get a priest out of bed to hear your confession, his heart may not be in it. Go instead to the guy who is awake and in his box. There are plenty around if you look.

Yeah it would be tedious to be made a 'special case' of with all the puffing and sighing that would involve.

skooterblue2 wrote: »

The church is thinly spread with priests its hard to get around to look after everyone. Maybe if you sinned less often or failing that felt less guilty by justifying your actions.

... I often ask Politicans how they went from budget surplus to calling in the IMF in two years. Are brains removed after membership fees have been paid or do they have special secret training camps for stupidity. Or there is a nice widow woman down the road, could you get her abducted or would you have to have a reason?

Hardly. A priest's primary role is to work for the sanctification of souls through saying Mass, administering sacraments, and preaching. All else is secondary, so the golf should be the first thing to go, not the confessions.

As regards your second paragraph, I see not the relevance.

Onesimus

georgieporgy wrote: »

I'd be inclined to go the non confrontational route. Go to the church/parish you are happy with and spend your cash there.
If you have to get a priest out of bed to hear your confession, his heart may not be in it. Go instead to the guy who is awake and in his box. There are plenty around if you look.

This is a perfect example of why the Church is in the mess it is. I met a fella who gave out stink about all the actions of the Church and those preaching women could be priests and all this and that, but would he lift a finger to do anything about it?

Nothing worse than someone who moans about it all and yet wont bother to try with prayer and Gods grace to bring a cure to it all and speak out.

The problem with the Church is not just the ones who are destroying her, but the parish folk who look the other way.

skooterblue2

Snappy Smurf wrote: »

Hardly. A priest's primary role is to work for the sanctification of souls through saying Mass, administering sacraments, and preaching. All else is secondary, so the golf should be the first thing to go, not the confessions.

Saying mass, administering sacraments all takes its toll and priest need recreational time too. they are not god machines. Do we really need places like St. Clabberts (AKA Jurrassic Park, see Fr Ted) full of already old Burnt out priests? Sounds like you have a lot of time on your hands and an unfulfilled vocation.

skooterblue2

Snappy Smurf wrote: »

Yes I have lots of time for the internet. I am also a highly trained professional, but that is by the by. It doesn't really matter.

So you are a highly trained professional but you wouldnt mind a job with the DF but despise violence and unlady-like women? How quaint is that? If you ever get around to visiting and DF facilities try looking up any of the Sheridans or Murphys in James Stephens in Kilkenny. You will get some reality check there

Snappy Smurf

skooterblue2 wrote: »

So you are a highly trained professional but you wouldnt mind a job with the DF but despise violence and unlady-like women? How quaint is that? If you ever get around to visiting and DF facilities try looking up any of the Sheridans or Murphys in James Stephens in Kilkenny. You will get some reality check there

Back off mateyboy. I've reported your post for cyber stalking and ad hominem comments. Let's stick to the subject of the thread, ok?

skooterblue2

Snappy Smurf wrote: »

Back off mateyboy. I've reported your post for cyber stalking and ad hominem comments. Let's stick to the subject of the thread, ok?

had to look up the ad hominnem
"An argument based on the failings of an adversary rather than on the merits of the case; a logical fallacy that involves a personal attack."
Funnily enough I was commenting on that thread too. that is how I remember it.

Go ahead!

Snappy Smurf

skooterblue2 wrote: »

had to look up the ad hominnem
"An argument based on the failings of an adversary rather than on the merits of the case; a logical fallacy that involves a personal attack."
Funnily enough I was commenting on that thread too. that is how I remember it.

Go ahead!

Yeah and I had to look up keratin. lolz. I knew it was a substance found in nails and hair but I wasn't aware you could take it in supplements.

I think I'll give it a miss though.

skooterblue2

Snappy Smurf wrote: »

Yeah and I had to look up keratin. lolz. I knew it was a substance found in nails and hair but I wasn't aware you could take it in supplements.

I think I'll give it a miss though.

They did an experiment down in Tralee IT years ago. Get a sick bucket if you need it. They fed ground down feathers and nails back to chicken to see if they gain weight against a control batch. Result? the Keratin chickens gained muscle and weight faster than the control batch.

Snappy Smurf

skooterblue2 wrote: »

They did an experiment down in Tralee IT years ago. Get a sick bucket if you need it. They fed ground down feathers and nails back to chicken to see if they gain weight against a control batch. Result? the Keratin chickens gained muscle and weight faster than the control batch.

How about we get those two fighting girls and put them in a room with chicken?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4WGQmWcrbs

georgieporgy

thats for the Olympics thread

skooterblue2

What we really need is more priests. We should have a thread on women Priests and married clergy. They seem to be avoiding scandals in the Church of Ireland which is virtually unscathed compared to the Roman Catholic Church.