PORSCHE 924 ,FIRST CLASSIC

SCOOP 64

Thinking of buying Porsche 924 2.0 ltr, year 1981, e1500 RUNNING.
will this car need a nct and tax ?
classic insurance,i thinking of replacing with my wifes car(second car) which i use for for work .im 47, full no claims,(ballpark, how much?)
would 924 make a good first classic, (none turbo. not a s model)
Anyone know about these?
thanks

JP 1800

The car will need an annual nct but will be on classic tax, there is no such thing as a cheap classic. I would prefer a 944 as it is a real porsche

trevorbrady

you'll get classic insurance from Carole Nash or First Ireland for around the €200 mark.

tax will be €52 per annum now that it's over 30 years old

the old dear will be thirsty though so expect fuel costs. It would be a good first classic, they're fairly basic mechanically and electrically. Not as basic as a VW beetle or Morris Minor mind you but basic by today's standards. SUre get the Haynes manual and join an enthusiast's forum. Best of luck with it, I always liked the "underdog" status of the 924.

SCOOP 64

So it will need a nct, its hard enough getting my 2 alot newer cars thought a nct,
Hate to take one in 30yrs old ,with emissions and all.
might look for 1979 or older, not that i would drive a unsafe car,
i would keep it road worthy, but with the nct these days with standards of newer cars, properly end up scrapping it!

JP 1800

The emissions for older cars are very generous at 4.5% CO so their only major concerns are the suspension, braking and body condition.

SCOOP 64

On a old reg which does show the year, at a road side check the guard would not know what year it is ,would he have to pull you in and do a check or would most just wave you on as long it is taxed, any classic car drivers experienced this?

deckie27

I use a 924 daily. pre 80 give the body a good lookover.

bbsrs

nig1 wrote: »

On a old reg which does show the year, at a road side check the guard would not know what year it is ,would he have to pull you in and do a check or would most just wave you on as long it is taxed, any classic car drivers experienced this?[/

He/she wouldnt be obliged to check but obviously it's at their discretion.

superfly35

I am liking this thread. I have a 924 myself as a daily driver.

Insurance wise, Carol Nash and First Ireland are a good option, there is also Irish vintage society of Ireland easy to deal with and cheaper.

The price is €180 for third party, and €257 fully comprehensive, there are flat price so you will pay the same. They have a classic car insurance scheme with FBD it will be no surprise their.

Regarding the consumption it is 8L/100km, so 35mpg for a proper tune car.

For the car and what you need to check, the battery tray is prone to rust, and after the usual wheel arches.
However, a 1981 model is fully galvanized so not that prone to rust. If you buy a 1979 or earlier one only the chassis is galvanized so more rust possible.

You say that the car is running but I am wondering does it in use? I know that Lightning on here was having is as a daily driver for sale few months back.
I know his car was in good running order.

Do you have a link or more info on the car ?

If you want a lot more information about those car, the best place to go is porsche924.co.uk.
A lot of us on here which own those car will be there too.

I hope it helps, any more info just ask. .

SCOOP 64

HERES THE CAR. http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3720655

Thanks for info.

kasper

very nice, best of luck and enjoyment with it

superfly35

That car is not bad, I was looking at the ad the day before yesterday.

The interior is in good condition which is good really, the engine bay looks clean.

IMO the most important on a classic is to buy something which is used regulary.

I would do the following if I was going to see that car :

- Check for rust on the body and on the battery, you can see the battery tray from the inside it will tell you if fiber glass was used
- Tyres
- Electric, does everything work the car is prone to electric issue easy to fix just in the way of the joy.
- Is the car start well hot or cold ?
- No sunroof leak.
- Break, no rust on the disk.

Basically all of that is good and you like the car don't forget to take it for a spin. Those car are hard to get in, and hard to drive when you are not use to, as low car. But after all there are sports car so you need to adapt.
But when you are use to it, it is no difference except the fun.

If it is all good discuss the price a bit for the sack of the haggle and go for it if you have the money and clear the insurance first.
Go to the NCT, do what say, they are not that picky on old car and tax and enjoy.

But as you must know already a classic, can break a bit more than a recent car simply because it is old.
However the 924 are pretty robust engine wise and all.

More detail info there porsche924.co.uk.

If it is an original irish car, it will be better as they were rare enough back then. So the value will hold better.

Dades

Like a few of the lads here, I run a 924 too.

That car sounds good, and maybe too good for the price. On closer inspection the paintwork - which is mentioned - looks quite ratty.

As suggested I'd check all the electrics are working. I'd also check the charge the battery is showing while driving (between 13-14 volts) to ensure the alternator is up to scratch.

If there's no NCT on the car I'd be asking why - and wouldn't accept "never got around to it" as an answer.

If you get lucky it would be a great first classic. Gearshift is a bit of pig until the oil warms up, but once you're underway it can like driving a go-kart. I bought mine 3 years ago and can't bring myself to part with it (despite a long wishlist of next classics!) as I don't know what fun and reliability I'd get for the same money.

Do you know a local mechanic or would you contact one in Wexford to take a look at it underneath?

Kenny Logins

There's another one here that looks pretty good -

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3733494

Capri

Kenny Logins wrote: »

There's another one here that looks pretty good -

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3733494

OR 3 !!!
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3750685

SCOOP 64

Kenny Logins wrote: »

There's another one here that looks pretty good -

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3733494

looks nice alright!

SCOOP 64

Capri wrote: »

OR 3 !!!
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3750685

Dont know were ill keep 3!!!

delthedriver

nig1 wrote: »

looks nice alright!

IMO this is the best one so far.

Looks like it has been well look after, probably an enthusiast.

Check body work as pre '80 model was not galvanised body.

First car looks a tad grubby, check to see how many owners in last 18 months.

It has been going around a bit??

Capri

nig1 wrote: »

Dont know were ill keep 3!!!

+ 1 more

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3751707

- rent a warehouse !

superfly35

So did you actually go to see any of those car ?

SCOOP 64

superfly35 wrote: »

So did you actually go to see any of those car ?

No. not yet ,just got my astra nct on thursday, to sell.

superfly35

Sounds good, let's hope the astra sell quickly

Let us know where you go with it.

salysol

The first 924 in wexford you were looking for information on,is as follows.
The car is used on weekends,there has been a lot of money spent on it in recent weeks.
The engine is excellent,new T Belt,new oil filter,oil ,fuel filter,coil, distributer cap,rotor, HT leads,alternator,plugs,transister unit,electric window switches,fuel filter.
I know this because i was given the task of doing it.
Further this car starts very easy hot or cold,hot start is a major issue with the 924,so if you do buy one of them ,i suggest you take it for at least a 5 mile run ,switch it off and spend the next 30 min looking over the car and then see if it starts when still hot,if it doesn't you will need to buy a thermo time switch,which are not cheap or easy to fit [ if you can find one that is ]
they are obsolete,apart from that the 924 engines are virtually bullet proof.
Electrics can be a nightmare ,but thats normally due to dirty earths.
The body is good but will need a respray at some stage,interior is good and it drives well.
You will definately enjoy driving a 924,they handle very well and are comfortable,i've had 8 of them and still have 3,the 944 wouldn't be as easy a car to handle ie parts prices or reliability,in saying that i've had 2 944 and i still think the 924 is the better car.
Not every one will agree with that.

SCOOP 64

Thanks for the info.

salysol

nig1 wrote: »

Thanks for the info.

no problem ,i didn't realise he had it for sale.

Dades

salysol wrote: »

Further this car starts very easy hot or cold,hot start is a major issue with the 924,so if you do buy one of them ,i suggest you take it for at least a 5 mile run ,switch it off and spend the next 30 min looking over the car and then see if it starts when still hot,if it doesn't you will need to buy a thermo time switch,which are not cheap or easy to fit [ if you can find one that is ]

My car has this issue and I've never heard of a thermo time switch? I fitted a cold start valve override to give it juice when trying to start from warm. Is your a different (better) solution?

(Sorry for the hijack OP - at least it keeps your thread fresh!)

salysol

Dades wrote: »

My car has this issue and I've never heard of a thermo time switch? I fitted a cold start valve override to give it juice when trying to start from warm. Is your a different (better) solution?

(Sorry for the hijack OP - at least it keeps your thread fresh!)

That is what most 924 owners resort to,but the thermo time switch is at the back of the head,beneath the distributer,you will have to remove the distributer and the housing cover to get at it,there are 2 wires attached to it,the first is a pull off connector the second is a very small nut,be very careful with the nut as its a brass fitting with an internal wire and will break if forced,you will then need a 17 flat spanner to loosen the unit.
i will see if i can find a pic

salysol

www.mirafiori.com/~thad/fi/thermot.html

salysol

here's the image for a 924,
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRUuCH3d-BmUJtm3IqacESzbfPgnM0GW4GojRHts7kqVy85x_E2YQ

Mr Benevolent

I'm starting to look for an '83 or earlier 924 2L as well. Very few on DD or Adverts, is there a better place to look for classics in Ireland?

Kenny Logins

Where are you? I have one that I'm not using much, and thinking about selling..

Mr Benevolent

Kenny Logins wrote: »

Where are you? I have one that I'm not using much, and thinking about selling..

North Dublin. I'd say I'd have to go further afield than Dublin to buy a proper 924 though.

superfly35

I might well sell some of mine, I have several.

Depending on what you are after. You can pm me if you want.

salysol

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

North Dublin. I'd say I'd have to go further afield than Dublin to buy a proper 924 though.

If you don't mind me asking, what is your interpretation of a proper 924 ?

Mr Benevolent

salysol wrote: »

If you don't mind me asking, what is your interpretation of a proper 924 ?

One that isn't a junkheap. I'm not talking about spec or engine size.

salysol

here are pics of 924 ,if you look at the blue 924 turbo on the left of the pic that will be for sale in short,it is a well sorted car.



was looking for better pics but can't seem to find them.

superfly35

Chris, are you selling the blue turbo ?

I just got a turbo myself... ouuppsss... ;-)

Boskowski

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Thinking of buying Porsche 924 2.0 ltr, year 1981, e1500 RUNNING.
will this car need a nct and tax ?
classic insurance,i thinking of replacing with my wifes car(second car) which i use for for work .im 47, full no claims,(ballpark, how much?)
would 924 make a good first classic, (none turbo. not a s model)
Anyone know about these?
thanks

Sorry to steal your thunder. But it was a rubbish car back then and I'm not sure how 30 years would change that.

Mr Benevolent

Boskowski wrote: »

Sorry to steal your thunder. But it was a rubbish car back then and I'm not sure how 30 years would change that.

Meh, that's your opinion, the purists will never like it. But it's a good, reliable and cheap classic, and that's a major attraction for me. The only other cars I'd go for would be the BMW E30 or E24.

Kenny Logins

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

Meh, that's your opinion, the purists will never like it. But it's a good, reliable and cheap classic, and that's a major attraction for me. The only other cars I'd go for would be the BMW E30 or E24.

My other car is an E24.

True story. :pac:

superfly35

Boskowski wrote: »

Sorry to steal your thunder. But it was a rubbish car back then and I'm not sure how 30 years would change that.

Can I ask you what are you driving Boskowski ?

I hope your statement is based on experience.

superfly35

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

Meh, that's your opinion, the purists will never like it. But it's a good, reliable and cheap classic, and that's a major attraction for me. The only other cars I'd go for would be the BMW E30 or E24.

Funny enough I wanted a E30 a couple of years ago and it actually brought me to a 924.

Boskowski

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

Meh, that's your opinion, the purists will never like it. But it's a good, reliable and cheap classic, and that's a major attraction for me. The only other cars I'd go for would be the BMW E30 or E24.

Fair enough.
But I remember in the 80ies the 924 was considered only half a Porsche. 928 different story however.
I find both your other models much superior to the 924, especially the 6 series is a beast.

Mr Benevolent

Boskowski wrote: »

Fair enough.
But I remember in the 80ies the 924 was considered only half a Porsche. 928 different story however.
I find both your other models much superior to the 924, especially the 6 series is a beast.

Yeah, the E30 is tempting but finding a pre-'84 model in good repair for maybe €1500 is a bit of a challenge. And not possible with the E24.

Kenny Logins

Boskowski wrote: »

Fair enough.
But I remember in the 80ies the 924 was considered only half a Porsche. 928 different story however.
I find both your other models much superior to the 924, especially the 6 series is a beast.

125 BHP coupe, galvinised body, stainless exhaust system, reliable and well-built, sunroof, pop-up headlamps, great fun drive, cheap parts, cheap tax and insurance etc. etc.

For the money they go for now, nothing comes close IMHO...

Boskowski

superfly35 wrote: »

Can I ask you what are you driving Boskowski ?

I hope your statement is based on experience.

That's a fair enough statement. But a friend of mine had one back when I was living in Berlin. He hated it.
So you're right I'm not really qualified to have an opinion on this.

I'm driving E39.

deckie27

Kenny Logins wrote: »

125 BHP coupe, galvinised body, stainless exhaust system, reliable and well-built, sunroof, pop-up headlamps, great fun drive, cheap parts, cheap tax and insurance etc. etc.

For the money they go for now, nothing comes close IMHO...

I don't have a sun roof

Kenny Logins

deckie27 wrote: »

I don't have a sun roof

You do. It's in the other one.

salysol

superfly35 wrote: »

Chris, are you selling the blue turbo ?

I just got a turbo myself... ouuppsss... ;-)

The turbos not mine its a friends and this car is a beaut ,well minded series 1 turbo
I'm not selling any of mine superfly35 , i find the 924 the most practical all round classic ,reliable ,economical ,easy to work on , great road holding,fantastic trouble free motor etc there's not one bit of a 924 i would knock, you either like them or you don't there's no inbetween,but in saying that i've had a lot of cars and bikes i i liked every one of them ,they all did what they were meant to do ,get me from A to B and back again and they all had their own little quirks which adds to their character.

salysol

Kenny Logins wrote: »

You do. It's in the other one.

your better off with a hard roof 924 no leaks to deal with,every last one leaked and ruined the interior.

lomb

What would the mpg be like on a 928 . Now thats a proper Porsche and with classic tax and insurance along with zero depreciation could make a good day to day motor.