Emergency landing in DUB AA155

gerire

AA was heading from LHR to BOS

From @NWairspace
Dublin Airport has confirmed American Airlines 155 has landed safely after having declared an emergency en route to Boston from London

and @DublinAirport
Some aircraft diversions as a result of aircraft incident earlier. Passengers should contact their airline's website for a status update.

TheChizler

Sounds like a runway's been closed for inspections and they're inspecting where the aircraft is standing. AA's being told nothing to apologise for!

TheChizler

10 aircraft in hold and runway 16 closed!

kub

Not another terror alert, what now, did someone sneeze onboard and someone else thought the sneezer said bomb?

TheChizler

kub wrote: »

Not another terror alert, what now, did someone sneeze onboard and someone else thought the sneezer said bomb?

Hydraulic problems apparently! Runway back in service.

seanmacc

May I be the first to speculate.

Fuel/oil leak. It would explain the closed runway.

ian_m

Problems with the nose steering.

It landed on 10. Runway 16 has just reopened following an inspection.

Turbine

Going by all the flights diverting on casper, Shannons gonna be busy tonight!

ednwireland

just landed in shannon on ei183 from lhr. refuelling and hoping to get back tonight.

Bigcheeze

ian_m wrote: »

Problems with the nose steering.

That's just a symptom of the initial hydraulics problem that caused them to divert

DieselPowered

thats a lot of flights put out tonight.

the divert happened around 22:15 (21:15(z) GMT) if anyone know the link to ATC to put up. thanks.

nuggetclv

http://avherald.com/h?article=453b34c7&opt=0

Tenger

TheChizler wrote: »

Sounds like a runway's been closed for inspections and they're inspecting where the aircraft is standing. AA's being told nothing to apologise for!

Let's all hope there are no B738's taxiing behind while they wait!!!!

TheChizler

Tenger wrote: »

Let's all hope there are no B738's taxiing behind while they wait!!!!

Saw about 8 making lovely circles over holyhead and liffy for about half an hour so I can't imagine O'Leary's a happy bunny.

smartflying

Website is in Polish but we have the ATC/tower audio only with AA155 crew talks:
http://bit.ly/OwSXXQ

Enjoy!

kelle

I heard it flying over the house last night, I thought it was thunder at first (we had thunder a few hours earlier) then realised it was an aircraft - but it was unusually loud.

I can only imagine the terror the poor passengers and crew must have felt - thank goodness they landed safely.

Su Campu

From AvHerald.

Incident: American B752 over Atlantic on Aug 3rd 2012, hydraulic issue
By Simon Hradecky, created Friday, Aug 3rd 2012 23:35Z, last updated Friday, Aug 3rd 2012 23:35Z

An American Airlines Boeing 757-200, registration N172AJ performing flight AA-155 from London Heathrow,EN (UK) to Boston,MA (USA) with 172 people on board, was enroute at FL350 over the Atlantic about one hour into the crossing when the crew reported hydraulic issues and requested to turn around and divert to Dublin (Ireland). Upon checking in with Shannon Area Control the crew requested to descend to burn off fuel and crossed the Irish Coast at FL140 and descended further enroute towards Dublin. On Dublin approach the crew advised they would not be able to vacate the runway, their nose wheel steering was inoperative. The aircraft landed safely on Dublin's runway 10 coming to a stop just penetrating the protected area of runway 16 effectively closing the aerodrome about 110 minutes after turning around. Tower was concerned with possible leakages from the aircraft and instructed emergency services to check the aircraft accordingly.The aircraft needed to be towed off the runway. In the meantime arriving flights diverted to Belfast Aldergrove,NI (UK) until Belfast could no longer accept diversions, then Shannon (Ireland) and Manchester,EN (UK).

Bigcheeze

kelle wrote: »

I can only imagine the terror the poor passengers and crew must have felt - thank goodness they landed safely.

The crew wouldn't have felt any terror and it would have felt the same as any other approach and landing to the passengers. Obviously a divert would cause some anxiety for passengers. You can hear on the audio link above that everyone is calm about it.

These things happen in Shannon every couple of weeks and I think it's only getting attention because it blocked the runway for a while.

ednwireland

we landed at 00:50 this morning, should have been in at 22:25 last night, and after gettng out of heathrow without waiting as well !

BeardySi

Can someone more in the know than I enlighten me as to why they'd divert to dublin rather than shannon?

Bigcheeze

Treadhead wrote: »

Can someone more in the know than I enlighten me as to why they'd divert to dublin rather than shannon?

Not sure, probably because AA have ground staff in Dublin and arrangements for maintenance as they operate routes daily from Dublin.

westdub

Treadhead wrote: »

Can someone more in the know than I enlighten me as to why they'd divert to dublin rather than shannon?

I believe it because Dublin is better situated for a crash landing, All the hospitals in Dublin were alerted to the emergency and the major emergency plan was on standby also.....

Bigcheeze

westdub wrote: »

I believe it because Dublin is better situated for a crash landing, All the hospitals in Dublin were alerted to the emergency and the major emergency plan was on standby also.....

transatlantic diversions usually go to Shannon so I would doubt that was the reason. I don't think this was a serious incident at all.

urajoke

westdub wrote: »

I believe it because Dublin is better situated for a crash landing, All the hospitals in Dublin were alerted to the emergency and the major emergency plan was on standby also.....

That's only about 5-10% of their consideration, the decision will be made in conjunction with AA ops in the US who will look at many factors including hotels, maintenance, engineers, onwards flights for passengers, tow bars, other AA flights, hospitals, runway length, wind direction, runway surface contamination blah blah blah.

It could have come down to how long will it take to burn/dump fuel to landing and it may have meant no holding going for Dublin as opposed to lengthy period in Shannon or Belfast.

urajoke

Bigcheeze wrote: »

transatlantic diversions usually go to Shannon so I would doubt that was the reason. I don't think this was a serious incident at all.

Some go to Shannon, some go to Dublin, some go to Glasgow/prestwick, in fact a good number return to the airfield of departure depending on the trouble.

A good number of medical emergencies will go to Shannon they will specifically go there for the time element but they will factor in hospitals specialising in certain conditions, the people they talk to on the sat phones will have huge amounts of information as to which hospital is best for the passenger and that will be factored into the decision.

kub

urajoke wrote: »

Some go to Shannon, some go to Dublin, some go to Glasgow/prestwick, in fact a good number return to the airfield of departure depending on the trouble.

A good number of medical emergencies will go to Shannon they will specifically go there for the time element but they will factor in hospitals specialising in certain conditions, the people they talk to on the sat phones will have huge amounts of information as to which hospital is best for the passenger and that will be factored into the decision.

But surely if medical was a concern as you have mentioned, how come Cork never comes into the equation. Just considering that CUH is one of the major trauma centres for the country.
Ps I know about the runway length, but surely considering 744's have been in and out, is this a concern also?

highlydebased

kub wrote: »

But surely if medical was a concern as you have mentioned, how come Cork never comes into the equation. Just considering that CUH is one of the major trauma centres for the country.
Ps I know about the runway length, but surely considering 744's have been in and out, is this a concern also?

There have been diversions to Cork for medical emergencies, but they are few and far between. Runway length may well be a concern in some cases- for example if you have a diversion of a 777 or 747 etc going from UK etc to Miami or further south it is unlikely they could leave Cork with the required fuel.

urajoke

kub wrote: »

But surely if medical was a concern as you have mentioned, how come Cork never comes into the equation. Just considering that CUH is one of the major trauma centres for the country.
Ps I know about the runway length, but surely considering 744's have been in and out, is this a concern also?

Something simple as a tow bar would stop that, they don't carry one onboard I highly doubt cork has one. Yes length of runway is a serious concern as is Cork notorious weather.

Yes cork has CUH Dublin has Beaumont, Mater, St. Vincent's, Tallaght, St James, Temple st, Crumlin etc etc etc. Beaumont is only a few kilometres away from Dublin airport as well.

Shannon due to its position in relation to the Atlantic gets the vast majority of medical diversions for obvious reasons. So short diversion times can be achieved.

Delancey

Can airlines claim the costs of a medical diversion from the passengers holiday / medical insurance ?

kub

urajoke wrote: »

Something simple as a tow bar would stop that, they don't carry one onboard I highly doubt cork has one. Yes length of runway is a serious concern as is Cork notorious weather.

Yes cork has CUH Dublin has Beaumont, Mater, St. Vincent's, Tallaght, St James, Temple st, Crumlin etc etc etc. Beaumont is only a few kilometres away from Dublin airport as well.

Shannon due to its position in relation to the Atlantic gets the vast majority of medical diversions for obvious reasons. So short diversion times can be achieved.

That makes sense.

seanmacc

Delancey wrote: »

Can airlines claim the costs of a medical diversion from the passengers holiday / medical insurance ?

I'm not 100% but I think when it comes to medical emergencies the carrier and emergency services absorb the cost.

It is definitely the case on passenger ships anyway. The Dublin-Holyhead Ferries have had two medivacs off the ships in the past couple of months. Granted the Coast Gaurd picked up that cost. When ships get diverted because of passenger incidents the companies have to pay the berthing costs so I'm assuming the airline has to pay the landing charge.

If its down to criminal or disruptive behaviour by a passenger the passenger is liable and believe it or not a lot of holiday insurance policies will cover it. My holiday insurance won't cover me if I've a dink in a rental car but will cover the cost of me getting drunk and smashing up a hotel room.

urajoke

No I'm sure airlines have insurance to cover it or just absorb the cost themselves.

I think landing charges are waived but they still pay handling charges (open to correction on first bit).

James1402

Anyone manage to get a video of the landing? :rolleyes:

EchoIndia

James1402 wrote: »

Anyone manage to get a video of the landing? :rolleyes:

It landed at 2210 local on a damp night so it's unlikely anyone was videoing it.