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The Worst Racing Special ever?

  • 03-08-2012 8:39pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 10,546 ✭✭✭✭ okidoki987


    Boyles have/had a special for Galway and in my opinion, it has to be the worst one I have ever seen.
    Money Back if 10th (a play on the Galway Tent!) in one race every day for max refund of €50!
    10th?
    One race a day?
    Max €50
    Terrible offer, would expect more from Boyles.

    Wasn't around but I assume they did 5 places in the Plate & Hurdle?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭ abouttobebanned


    Why is it a terrible offer? If they offered no money back special at all would you be on here complaining then?

    Ladbrokes don't do money back specials, and either do a lot of other high street bookies. Boyles are giving money back on a horse if it finishes 10th and you call that a terrible offer? The mind boggles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,666 ✭✭✭ Howjoe1


    okidoki987 wrote: »
    Boyles have/had a special for Galway and in my opinion, it has to be the worst one I have ever seen.
    Money Back if 10th (a play on the Galway Tent!) in one race every day for max refund of €50!
    10th?
    One race a day?
    Max €50
    Terrible offer, would expect more from Boyles.

    Wasn't around but I assume they did 5 places in the Plate & Hurdle?

    i saw it in their shop window and did a double take, so see if my eyes were deceiving me :eek:

    What clown thought that one up ??

    You,re backing a horse on the basis you believe it will win. most normal "money back" offers apply to your horse finishing 2nd which is fair enough. It's an insult to a punter to offer a cash back on the basis of your selection finishing 10th !!

    an insult to punters imho,. and one that probably cost Boyles zero:rolleyes:

    rememember J Boyle..it is the staff you have hypnotised not the punters !!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭ abouttobebanned


    Howjoe1 wrote: »
    i saw it in their shop window and did a double take, so see if my eyes were deceiving me :eek:

    What clown thought that one up ??

    You,re backing a horse on the basis you believe it will win. most normal "money back" offers apply to your horse finishing 2nd which is fair enough. It's an insult to a punter to offer a cash back on the basis of your selection finishing 10th !!

    an insult to punters imho,. and one that probably cost Boyles zero:rolleyes:

    rememember J Boyle..it is the staff you have hypnotised not the punters !!

    I did a double take when I saw this. Are you guys serious?? Please tell me you're not. An Insult to punters? Boyles one job is to price up markets for punters to bet on. Everything else is a bonus, not an obligation. If you backed the favourite and he jumped terribly and you knew your dough was done...and then found out later that he finished 10th...you'd be happy wouldn't ya? As far as bonuses go, it's not up there with a bookies paying out on a team 3 months early or something like that but it's a bonus, designed to be quirky.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,424 ✭✭✭✭ mailburner


    so it's not a great offer but the only money back offer out
    there for the races at galway
    I doubt anyone would have gone to boyles for this in the offchance that
    your selection runs that badly but if you happen to have a decent bet
    on a horse that runs badly then you'll be a very relieved punter should it finished 10th in that race
    better than nothing not an insult at all


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,424 ✭✭✭✭ mailburner


    scratch all that

    its a great offer
    only after finding out that it applied to the first race at galway today
    i backed welds horse in that so i get my stake back
    its only a fiver but im happy with it

    thanks op as i wouldnt even have thought of looking at it otherwise only
    for this thread


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,546 ✭✭✭✭ okidoki987


    It was a terrible offer.
    1 race every day Money Back if 10th to a max stake of €50.
    Boyles are the 2nd biggest bookies in Ireland.
    To come up with a Money Back offer if 10th for 1 race for €50 is a joke.
    They used to be €200 refund, reduced it to €100 and now it's €50 :eek:

    Bar One (not a big player) were Money Back if 2nd beaten up to a neck all races Galway & Goodwood max refund €100

    Paddy Power had money backs if 2nd or 2nd to a specific horse Galway & Goodwood races max refund €200.

    Ladbrokes (we all know) don't even bother doing a money back 2nd to the fav in an ordinary handicap race any more so there no chance of them doing anything out of the ordinary.

    Why were Boyles €50?
    It was one of the biggest weeks racing of the year!
    It wouldn't encourage me to go and have a bet with them based on that offer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,424 ✭✭✭✭ mailburner


    okidoki987 wrote: »

    Bar One (not a big player) were Money Back if 2nd beaten up to a neck all races Galway & Goodwood max refund €100

    damn it


    can't get to pp during the week and lads are just pants

    that concession by bar one by far the best
    tried to avoid it myself given the proximity to the racecourse and
    the traffic but i regret it now

    not good by boyles at all now that i know what the others were offering


  • Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭ Headspace


    Boyles used to completely suck, not quite so bad now, am I right?

    When PP do their first goalscorer money back specials their odds are always worse than the competitions. So to put it as a slate against ladbrokes that they don't do these specials is missing out on the bigger picture.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,546 ✭✭✭✭ okidoki987


    This is what I said
    Ladbrokes (we all know) don't even bother doing a money back 2nd to the fav in an ordinary handicap race any more so there no chance of them doing anything out of the ordinary

    I was talking about Money Back Horse Racing Specials, I never mentioned 1st goalscorer or soccer, the whole thread was about HR Specials.


  • Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭ Headspace


    I was talking about Money Back Horse Racing Specials, I never mentioned 1st goalscorer or soccer, the whole thread was about HR Specials.[/QUOTE]

    I wasn't calling you out, I was just saying bookies make up for these offers by reducing the odds. So those that don't do offers are where the value really is.

    They all suck any way!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭ abouttobebanned


    You haven't seen terrible offers til you see what Ladbrokes offer ya.


  • Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭ mickey1979


    prob working on the spec most people would not have a clue who finished 10th thus no payout


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,666 ✭✭✭ Howjoe1


    mickey1979 wrote: »
    prob working on the spec most people would not have a clue who finished 10th thus no payout

    agree. how many people would bother checking who came 10th ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭ Colonel Sanders


    Powers often have "special" doubles advertised that pay barely more than coupling them in a double eg 10/3 Horse X & Y both to win, work it out using their single prices and it could be in the region of 4.25-4.3

    While their "while stocks last" specials are often huge arbs just as many aren't even top high street price


  • Registered Users Posts: 846 ✭✭✭ wicklowdub


    Ladbrokes offered nrmb on the plate and the hurdle from very early, I think from when the weights were released. Thats a better offer than money back on tenth is it not?


  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭✭ Wishful Thinking


    Powers often have "special" doubles advertised that pay barely more than coupling them in a double eg 10/3 Horse X & Y both to win, work it out using their single prices and it could be in the region of 4.25-4.3

    While their "while stocks last" specials are often huge arbs just as many aren't even top high street price

    Powers seem to be a shower of 3 card tricksters. They had a special on Katie Taylor to win by 10 points or more at 7/4 the last day. Big screen enhanced & seemed to be popping up on 5 different screens at once across the shop.

    The same bet in Ladbrokes with no special enhanced? 5/1

    Gangsters

    And those stupid racing specials they have up all the time, wide berth


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,546 ✭✭✭✭ okidoki987


    Wouldn't disagree with you there.

    That's a big difference all right.
    Don't get into a PP that often (rumours of a new shop opening right beside Boyles & Ladbrokes in Stillorgan though :)) but they do have a good offer called While Stock Lasts - most of them are an arb ;) but haven't seen in it in a while :(.
    Reminds me of Crumlin where there were 4 bookies with 50m of each other.
    Hills closed to leave 3 and Ladbrokes do little or no business there.
    Competition :D.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,010 saiint


    okidoki987 wrote: »
    Wouldn't disagree with you there.

    That's a big difference all right.
    Don't get into a PP that often (rumours of a new shop opening right beside Boyles & Ladbrokes in Stillorgan though :)) but they do have a good offer called While Stock Lasts - most of them are an arb ;) but haven't seen in it in a while :(.
    Reminds me of Crumlin where there were 4 bookies with 50m of each other.
    Hills closed to leave 3 and Ladbrokes do little or no business there.
    Competition :D.


    you talking about crumlin village? haha

    theirs ladbrookes
    then 3 shops next to it is pps
    then straight accross the road about 20metres is boyles

    also theirs hackets right beside the ashlief which is only 2 min walk from their ha


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