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What car for Autocross ?

  • 03-08-2012 3:24pm
    #1
    TheAlkaline
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭


    Hi, I am looking for advice about what car I should buy for autocross as I want to start autocrossing together with my two friends.
    We don't have money to buy already build rally car, so we are going to build it up by ourselves. Our funds are around €300-€400 just for a car not counting rollcage, seats, etc.

    I have a list of cars we could get:

    -Ford Escort/Sierra/Focus
    -Peugeot 106/206/306
    -Toyota Corolla
    -Opel Astra
    -Suzuki Swift
    -Daewoo Lanos
    -Honda CRX/Civic
    -Ferrari F430 Spider :D
    -Mitsubishi Lancer 1.6/Colt
    -Fiat SC/CC
    -Mazda 323
    -VW Golf mk. 2/3
    -Renault Clio
    -Citroen Saxo

    Would any of these would be good ?
    Or should we think about getting something else ?

    Thanks with Advance :)


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  • #2
    Daniel S
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    TheAlkaline wrote: »
    Hi, I am looking for advice about what car I should buy for autocross as I want to start autocrossing together with my two friends.
    We don't have money to buy already build rally car, so we are going to build it up by ourselves. Our funds are around €300-€400 just for a car not counting rollcage, seats, etc.

    I have a list of cars we could get:

    -Ford Escort/Sierra/Focus
    -Peugeot 106/206/306
    -Toyota Corolla
    -Opel Astra
    -Suzuki Swift
    -Daewoo Lanos
    -Honda CRX/Civic
    -Ferrari F430 Spider :D
    -Mitsubishi Lancer 1.6/Colt
    -Fiat SC/CC
    -Mazda 323
    -VW Golf mk. 2/3
    -Renault Clio
    -Citroen Saxo

    Would any of these would be good ?
    Or should we think about getting something else ?

    Thanks with Advance :)

    I'm looking at getting into Autocross too. I was looking at Micra's a while back as they seem to be quite popular.


  • #3
    freestyla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭freestyla


    I think also that Starlet is the best choice.
    As Daniel said Micra is also popular.. I don't know why-probably cheap to maintain..

    Of course F430 Spider would bring you a notch closer to the action when you can feel wind, dust and gravel in your face but doesn't have the same reliability as mentioned Japanese tin cans :P


  • #4
    Daniel S
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    freestyla wrote: »
    I think also that Starlet is the best choice.
    As Daniel said Micra is also popular.. I don't know why-probably cheap to maintain..

    Of course F430 Spider would bring you a notch closer to the action when you can feel wind, dust and gravel in your face but doesn't have the same reliability as mentioned Japanese tin cans :P
    Hadn't thought of a starlet, thatd be a nice one. But probably more expensive to buy than a micra.


  • #5
    TheAlkaline
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭TheAlkaline


    I was actually thinking now between Peugeot 206 and an Old Suzuki Swift.
    They are my top favourites because of their small body, cheap maintenance and widely accessible parts for a good price.

    I have also made a list of More/Less Costs to get a car ready for race.

    Car - €350
    Bucket Seats: €195.57
    http://www.murraymotorsport.ie/products/Sparco-sprint-v-seat
    4 Point Harnesses: €172.20
    http://www.murraymotorsport.ie/products/schroth-clubman-ii-asm-4-point-single-seater-harness
    Rollcage - €400-500
    Fire Extinguisher: €81.18
    Suit: €276.75
    http://www.murraymotorsport.ie/products/lico-jade-suit
    Helmet: €139.10
    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Hedtec-Rapido-Open-Face-Motorsport-Helmet-FIA-Snell-SA2010-/251116651913?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Helmets&hash=item3a77b80589#ht_1065wt_1344
    Gloves: €54.24
    http://www.murraymotorsport.ie/products/sparco-land-gloves
    Boots: €134.07
    http://www.murraymotorsport.ie/products/sparco-slalom-sl3-boots
    Suspension Kit:
    http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/coilover-suspension-kits/car/peugeot/206/ap-suspension-coilover-kit


  • #6
    TheAlkaline
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭TheAlkaline


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    Looking at your costs why don't you just buy a race prepared car?

    It's because we don't have enough money to spend straight away, and if we buy a car and then start getting parts for it, we stretch that €2000 in longer period of time.


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  • #7
    Daniel S
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    TheAlkaline wrote: »
    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    Looking at your costs why don't you just buy a race prepared car?

    It's because we don't have enough money to spend straight away, and if we buy a car and then start getting parts for it, we stretch that €2000 in longer period of time.
    Race prepared cars are piss cheap. Where are you based? I'm 19 and my brother is 17 and were looking to build or buy one also. I'm doing mechanical engineering and have built a single seater race car, so I've a fair idea about what im doing. I'm thinking of either getting a race prepared one that needs repair or just going on done deal, search through Clare and find the cheapest repairable hatchback.

    Also, you should definitely be going second hand on gloves, boots etc (not helmet). Also €50 is enough for new boots off you want them.


  • #8
    TheAlkaline
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭TheAlkaline


    Daniel S wrote: »
    Race prepared cars are piss cheap. Where are you based? I'm 19 and my brother is 17 and were looking to build or buy one also. I'm doing mechanical engineering and have built a single seater race car, so I've a fair idea about what im doing. I'm thinking of either getting a race prepared one that needs repair or just going on done deal, search through Clare and find the cheapest repairable hatchback.

    Also, you should definitely be going second hand on gloves, boots etc (not helmet). Also €50 is enough for new boots off you want them.

    I'm based in Kilcoole Co. Wicklow. My brother and father are mechanics so they will help me with a car.

    And yes, I will get a second hand suit.


  • #9
    Daniel S
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    TheAlkaline wrote: »
    I'm based in Kilcoole Co. Wicklow. My brother and father are mechanics so they will help me with a car.

    And yes, I will get a second hand suit.
    Ah, you're too far away to organise anything between us so! :D


  • #10
    TheAlkaline
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭TheAlkaline


    Daniel S wrote: »
    Ah, you're too far away to organise anything between us so! :D

    Yeah, That's the other end of Ireland, lol !


  • #11
    Daniel S
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    KDMC-Autocross-(260).jpg

    That car looks class. :D


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  • #12
    TheAlkaline
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭TheAlkaline


    Daniel S wrote: »
    KDMC-Autocross-(260).jpg

    That car looks class. :D

    Yeah, we think about getting Peugeot 106/206


  • #13
    Daniel S
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    Would it be possible to build a car that can compete in Autocross and Rallycross?


  • #14
    TheAlkaline
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭TheAlkaline


    Daniel S wrote: »
    Would it be possible to build a car that can compete in Autocross and Rallycross?

    Yeah, but It will be bit expensive :/


  • #15
    Daniel S
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    TheAlkaline wrote: »
    Yeah, but It will be bit expensive :/
    Yea, I guessed. But at least we could use it a fair bit more. Seems to be fook all Autocross at the moment. :(


  • #16
    Daniel S
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    Made €50 today selling a body board, RAM and a few hard drives! :D If I keep going at this rate I'll have the car built by the end of August! :pac:


  • #17
    TheAlkaline
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭TheAlkaline


    Daniel S wrote: »
    Made €50 today selling a body board, RAM and a few hard drives! :D If I keep going at this rate I'll have the car built by the end of August! :pac:

    Good Luck with it man, I am giving it up for atleast this year. It's too expensive and I'm going to 6th year now, so there will be no time to work and get enough money for it.


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