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Pre wiring house for UPC

  • 31-07-2012 8:23pm
    #1
    johnnyjb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭


    Hi , im currently in the process of renovating a house and am wondering is it possible to pre wire my house for UPC as im running cables at the moment.

    Im an electrician so it wouldnt be any hassle to do it my self if i knew what type of cable to use, is it standard RG6 that runs from the junction (located on the soffit under guttering) to the router and tv points

    I just dont want to have cables clipped all over a newly renovated house when i get it installed so would appreciate it if any one could give me some ideas.

    Thanks in advance


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  • #2
    coylemj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,620 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Johnny, if you don't get an answer here I'd try asking the same question over in terrestrial where there are lots of experts on aerials, Saorview and receiver boxes, they should also be able to advice on cabling.

    Terrestrial is here.. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=56


  • #3
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,067 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Beware. Its illegal to tap into a mains cable and highly dangerous too.


  • #4
    stevek93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭stevek93


    Yes you could do it yourself but as icdg it would illegal, best bet is to get certified UPC installer to do it.


  • #5
    coylemj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,620 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    icdg wrote: »
    Beware. Its illegal to tap into a mains cable and highly dangerous too.
    stevek93 wrote: »
    Yes you could do it yourself but as icdg it would illegal, best bet is to get certified UPC installer to do it.

    I think both of you guys have the wrong end of the stick. The OP is renovating a house and prior to getting UPC to come and connect him up he's going to install TV points around the house and wants advice on what is the right cable to use.

    He is not trying to attempt anything illegal from my reading of his post. When my house was built, an electrician installed three TV points around the house and connected them up to a splitter in the attic ready for connection to the cable TV network. That's precisely what the OP is proposing to do in the house he's working on.


  • #6
    stevek93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭stevek93


    coylemj wrote: »
    icdg wrote: »
    Beware. Its illegal to tap into a mains cable and highly dangerous too.
    stevek93 wrote: »
    Yes you could do it yourself but as icdg it would illegal, best bet is to get certified UPC installer to do it.

    I think both of you guys have the wrong end of the stick. The OP is renovating a house and prior to getting UPC to come and connect him up he's going to install TV points around the house and wants advice on what is the right cable to use.

    He is not trying to attempt anything illegal from my reading of his post. When my house was built, an electrician installed three TV points around the house and connected them up to a splitter in the attic ready for connection to the cable TV network. That's precisely what the OP is proposing to do in the house he's working on.

    Ah my bad. As for that cable OP it should be fine.

    Edit: Just reading the OPs post again he is attempting to tap into the junction box outside the house by the looks of things?


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  • #7
    Solair
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    They'll quite happily use any pre installed cable. AFAIK RG6 is the correct spec, but you might want to ask them.

    Run the cable to each wall point in a star configuration not a daisy chain.
    Install a deep single box into the wall, same as used for any socket/switch. They can hang their UPC wall socket / isolator on these.

    Just leave a good slack of cable coming out of your roof near their tap on the soffit. They'll make the connection from there.

    Remember though, they charge per point!


  • #8
    coylemj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,620 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Solair wrote: »
    Remember though, they charge per point!

    You can install as many points as you please but the subscription charge is only based on the number of digital boxes you ask for.

    Do you mean that when UPC come to connect the house that there will be an installation charge for each new UPC wall box?


  • #9
    stevek93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭stevek93


    coylemj wrote: »
    Solair wrote: »
    Remember though, they charge per point!

    You can install as many points as you please but the subscription charge is only based on the number of digital boxes you ask for.

    Do you mean that when UPC come to connect the house that there will be an installation charge for each new UPC wall box?

    Not unless you get UPC to install multiroom then they charge you by the box or no box.


  • #10
    coylemj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,620 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    stevek93 wrote: »
    Not unless you get UPC to install multiroom then they charge you by the box or no box.

    I'm not sure what you mean by that. Although 'multiroom' sounds like some kind of electronic feature, it's just the name for second or subsequent digital boxes. If the house is already wired for multiple points as the OP's house will be, UPC won't have to do anything for the second TV point, just give him an extra digital box.

    Say the OP wires up four TV points and asks for just one digital+ box for the main room as a starter. Will UPC install four wall boxes and if so, will they charge for them?


  • #11
    stevek93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭stevek93


    coylemj wrote: »
    stevek93 wrote: »
    Not unless you get UPC to install multiroom then they charge you by the box or no box.

    Say the OP wires up four TV points and asks for just one digital+ box for the main room as a starter. Will UPC install four wall boxes and if so, will they charge for them?

    If the OP asks UPC to install the four wall boxes he will be charged by the month as these are classed as multiroom he also might be charged a installation fee as well. UPC doesn't not run these of the box in the main room it is from the junction box outside the house. What the OP should do is wire the four wall boxes himself from the main room not sure if how the analogue would fair up if he done this though.


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  • #12
    coylemj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,620 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    stevek93 wrote: »
    If the OP asks UPC to install the four wall boxes he will be charged by the month as these are classed as multiroom he also might be charged a installation fee as well. UPC doesn't not run these of the box in the main room it is from the junction box outside the house. What the OP should do is wire the four wall boxes himself from the main room not sure if how the analogue would fair up if he done this though.

    They do not charge a subscription per wall box. I was disconnected for several years and when I got reconnected, the Polish contractor lads replaced all three of my Cablelink wall boxes with new UPC boxes even though at the time I was only signing up for one Digital+ box. I paid a sub. for one Digital+ box and later added a non-recording Pace box in one of the bedrooms. On my UPC bill I am only paying per digital box, not by how many points there are in the house.


  • #13
    naitsirhc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭naitsirhc


    Multiroom is charged per box, not per wall point. If you order anything from UPC that would require them to send out new equipment there's a €45 activation fee and if you need an extra point installed its an extra €60 per point.


  • #14
    miller50841
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭miller50841


    johnnyjb wrote: »
    Hi , im currently in the process of renovating a house and am wondering is it possible to pre wire my house for UPC as im running cables at the moment.

    Im an electrician so it wouldnt be any hassle to do it my self if i knew what type of cable to use, is it standard RG6 that runs from the junction (located on the soffit under guttering) to the router and tv points

    I just dont want to have cables clipped all over a newly renovated house when i get it installed so would appreciate it if any one could give me some ideas.

    Thanks in advance

    Coax cable thats all depends how many rooms you want it in but run 2 or 3 cables from the box outside and get upc to connect you up


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