Price of a 2006 Hyundai Trajet clutch change?

YraggarY

Hi all,

I used the search function but found nothing regarding this particular issue, so I was hoping you good folks might be able to help me.

My sister needs a new clutch in her '06 Hyundai Trajet, and has been quoted a ballpark figure of €570 for it (€250 for a secondhand clutch, and €320 for fitting - 8 hours X €40 per hour.)

From what I can see it looks like quite a tight fit so I was expecting longer labour hours, but not quite 8. I'm speaking only from what I can see and my own experience working on a completely different car with a lot more room to manoeuvre, so perhaps it's spot on. Just want to get your opinions!

Do any of you have any idea if this is a reasonable / fair price for a clutch job on this model?

Cheers!

A second hand clutch :eek:
Not worth it with that much labour charge imo.

YraggarY

Thanks for the quick reply RoverJames!
I was thinking the labour charge was kind of high myself, she'll be ringing around for a few different quotes in the morning - I just wanted to try get an idea of a reasonable price.

Just out of interest, have you any idea how much a new clutch would be / if it would be worth it to have the one that's in it reconditioned?

Cheers!

YraggarY

YraggarY wrote: »

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Just out of interest, have you any idea how much a new clutch would be / if it would be worth it to have the one that's in it reconditioned?

Not a clue, a 2nd hand one might or might not last too long though. New is the only option with a clutch imo.

YraggarY

Okay great, I'll relay the above to her! Thanks very much for your help!

Nissan doctor

€250 for a second hand clutch???? You have to have misunderstood something there.

A brand new clutch kit would barely be that much retail! Is it petrol or diesel?

And its not 8 hours labour to change a clutch on them. The listed time is 5 1/2 hours.

aido 1976

Dont know where your sister is located, but she could try Walkinstown Clutch & Gearbox

http://www.walkinstownclutch.ie/

They are very reasonable from my experience

HellFireClub

€250 for a used clutch?!? Why why why would anyone fit a used clutch to a vehicle??? Only a cowboy would take on a job like this & fit a used clutch. Stick to LuK, Valeo or Sachs, Original Equipment brands that will last a minimum of 5 years, anything else is just screwing the customer in my opinion.

HellFireClub

YraggarY wrote: »

Okay great, I'll relay the above to her! Thanks very much for your help!

PM me the reg number and I'll do a reg lookup & put up the price of parts for this vehicle & the brand options. Please do not pay €250 for a used part, it won't last pissing time.

wonski

HellFireClub wrote: »

€250 for a used clutch?!? Why why why would anyone fit a used clutch to a vehicle??? Only a cowboy would take on a job like this & fit a used clutch. Stick to LuK, Valeo or Sachs, Original Equipment brands that will last a minimum of 5 years, anything else is just screwing the customer in my opinion.

It's not only expensive, but you will get Luk clutch kit for less than that!

Unless OP misunderstood something, i would think again about giving the garage in question a go...

HellFireClub

wonski wrote: »

It's not only expensive, but you will get Luk clutch kit for less than that!

Unless OP misunderstood something, i would think again about giving the garage in question a go...

Sometimes used parts have to be fitted due to lack of avaiability but this isn't one of these scenarios.

HellFireClub

Just priced a Valeo (Original Equipment) replacement clutch kit for this application, coming in at 175 Euro (not even a trade price), for a 3 piece clutch kit, (pressure plate, clutch disc, & clutch release bearing), Valeo is also OE on the Hyundai Trajet, so you'd be putting back in, exactly what is coming out.

So the parts can be tied down at 175 Euro MAXIMUM, for Original Equipment, as was fitted to the vehicle at manufacture. Why someone would pay 250 Euro for a used clutch kit, in this context is beyond me.

With regard to the labour on the job, Autodata have this down as a 5.5 Hr labour job, I'd be more inclined to price it at 4-5 hours, say taking 5 hours as a reasonable labour time for this job, I'd be expecting to pay:

175 Euro parts (OE Parts)

250 Euro Labour (5 Hrs * 50 Euro/Hr)

375 Euro Subtotal

VAT @ 13.5%: 50.63 Euro

Invoice total: 425.63

* Note, this is NOT a quote for work as per forum charter, just a professional opinion on the most likely cost to get this job done right, using the right quality parts.

Would the parts not be 23 per cent VAT?

HellFireClub

RoverJames wrote: »

Would the parts not be 23 per cent VAT?

Nope, 13.5% across the whole transaction if it's a fitting job. 23% if it's just supplying the parts.

YraggarY

Nissan doctor wrote: »

€250 for a second hand clutch???? You have to have misunderstood something there.

A brand new clutch kit would barely be that much retail! Is it petrol or diesel?

And its not 8 hours labour to change a clutch on them. The listed time is 5 1/2 hours.

There's a distinct possibility that she misheard the mechanic about the clutch - I'll check up on that. It's a petrol Trajet. Will let her know the 5 1/2 hours listed labour time too, thanks Nissan doctor.

aido 1976 wrote: »

Dont know where your sister is located, but she could try Walkinstown Clutch & Gearbox

http://www.walkinstownclutch.ie/

They are very reasonable from my experience

She's out near Greystones so Walkinstown might be a bit far for her, but thanks aido, I'll mention it to her and see about a quote from them.

HellFireClub wrote: »

€250 for a used clutch?!? Why why why would anyone fit a used clutch to a vehicle??? Only a cowboy would take on a job like this & fit a used clutch. Stick to LuK, Valeo or Sachs, Original Equipment brands that will last a minimum of 5 years, anything else is just screwing the customer in my opinion.

...PM me the reg number and I'll do a reg lookup & put up the price of parts for this vehicle & the brand options. Please do not pay €250 for a used part, it won't last pissing time.

...Just priced a Valeo (Original Equipment) replacement clutch kit for this application, coming in at 175 Euro (not even a trade price), for a 3 piece clutch kit, (pressure plate, clutch disc, & clutch release bearing), Valeo is also OE on the Hyundai Trajet, so you'd be putting back in, exactly what is coming out.

So the parts can be tied down at 175 Euro MAXIMUM, for Original Equipment, as was fitted to the vehicle at manufacture. Why someone would pay 250 Euro for a used clutch kit, in this context is beyond me.

With regard to the labour on the job, Autodata have this down as a 5.5 Hr labour job, I'd be more inclined to price it at 4-5 hours, say taking 5 hours as a reasonable labour time for this job, I'd be expecting to pay:

175 Euro parts (OE Parts)

250 Euro Labour (5 Hrs * 50 Euro/Hr)

375 Euro Subtotal

VAT @ 13.5%: 50.63 Euro

Invoice total: 425.63

* Note, this is NOT a quote for work as per forum charter, just a professional opinion on the most likely cost to get this job done right, using the right quality parts.

Given the replies on this thread it seems she probably misheard the mechanic! He's a one man operation that's just started up in a garage near her so I doubt he's trying to rip people off. I'll PM you when she gets back to me, thanks very much HellFireClub. Much obliged for the price breakdown and your professional opinion on the matter, it's incredibly helpful!

wonski wrote: »

It's not only expensive, but you will get Luk clutch kit for less than that!

Unless OP misunderstood something, i would think again about giving the garage in question a go...

Fairly sure it's a misunderstanding given the reactions in this thread, will clear it up and post here when I do!


Thanks again folks!

HellFireClub

YraggarY wrote: »

He's a one man operation that's just started up in a garage near her so I doubt he's trying to rip people off.

Well he's doing nobody any favours, himself being top of the list, going at clutch work with used/second hand/scrap replacement parts.

Also, as it happens, on the Hyundai Trajet, you can't actually fit a used clutch on this make & model because the clutch is a pull-type clutch system with a release bearing assembly that connects directly into the clutch diaphragm. Once the bearing connects with the clutch diaphragm, it cannot be removed during the lifetime of the clutch.

The ring/clip assembly that connects the release bearing into the clutch pressure plate diaphragm, will break apart when the gearbox is removed, making the old clutch pressure plate and clutch release bearing, completely unusable. If your mechanic doesn't know this OP, with regard to the Hyundai Trajet, I wouldn't be trusting him to do the job in the first place.

I know a customer recently who had to buy a replacement gearbox for a Trajet and also bought a used clutch off the same scrap yard, in the end it couldn't be used and a new clutch kit had to be bought in addition to the used clutch parts that were bought that couldn't be used as they were of scrap value due to the above, I'm not sure if the scrapyard refunded the money paid for the unusable clutch assembly.

BeardyGit

€175 + €250 = €425 plus VAT @ 13.5% totals out at €482.38

The OP already acknowledged that his sister could have misunderstood the part about used parts too.

Personally HFC, I don't see much wrong with the quote his sister received if that's the case. It might be a shade more expensive than your quote (based on the correct math above) but then again it's hardly unreasonable and a new garage are likely to do everything they can to ensure she becomes a regular, so I'd be surprised if she ended up being charged for all the 8 hours anyway. Even if she was, you don't know if perhaps they've identified another possibly related fault, such as master/slave problems etc.

I think it all sounds very reasonable to be honest. Get her to ensure they're new parts fitted and that additional hours won't be paid for without prior agreement and she'll likely be fine

YraggarY

HellFireClub wrote: »

Well he's doing nobody any favours, himself being top of the list, going at clutch work with used/second hand/scrap replacement parts.

Also, as it happens, on the Hyundai Trajet, you can't actually fit a used clutch on this make & model because the clutch is a pull-type clutch system with a release bearing assembly that connects directly into the clutch diaphragm. Once the bearing connects with the clutch diaphragm, it cannot be removed during the lifetime of the clutch.

The ring/clip assembly that connects the release bearing into the clutch pressure plate diaphragm, will break apart when the gearbox is removed, making the old clutch pressure plate and clutch release bearing, completely unusable. If your mechanic doesn't know this OP, with regard to the Hyundai Trajet, I wouldn't be trusting him to do the job in the first place.

I know a customer recently who had to buy a replacement gearbox for a Trajet and also bought a used clutch off the same scrap yard, in the end it couldn't be used and a new clutch kit had to be bought in addition to the used clutch parts that were bought that couldn't be used as they were of scrap value due to the above, I'm not sure if the scrapyard refunded the money paid for the unusable clutch assembly.

Turns out my sister was indeed mistaken and it's a new clutch that he's putting in! The labour price is still fairly hefty though. She called Walkinstown Clutch & Gearbox Centre for a quote and they priced it at €380 all-in (thanks aido 1976!), so she's going to go with them. Thanks for all your in depth replies HellFireClub, they were incredibly helpful!

BeardyGit wrote: »

€175 + €250 = €425 plus VAT @ 13.5% totals out at €482.38

The OP already acknowledged that his sister could have misunderstood the part about used parts too.

Personally HFC, I don't see much wrong with the quote his sister received if that's the case. It might be a shade more expensive than your quote (based on the correct math above) but then again it's hardly unreasonable and a new garage are likely to do everything they can to ensure she becomes a regular, so I'd be surprised if she ended up being charged for all the 8 hours anyway. Even if she was, you don't know if perhaps they've identified another possibly related fault, such as master/slave problems etc.

I think it all sounds very reasonable to be honest. Get her to ensure they're new parts fitted and that additional hours won't be paid for without prior agreement and she'll likely be fine

Cheers BeardyGit; she already left it in for a service (which took 1 1/2 hours apparently, though I've often serviced my own car in 1/3 of the time) and he only charged her for an hour's labour, and was quite competitive where that was concerned. I think he's still just trying to get his prices right regarding changing parts etc.

Thanks all for your replies, they've been incredibly helpful and have saved her just under €200, which covers half the cost of 4 new tyres as well.

Cheers folks!

HellFireClub

BeardyGit wrote: »

€175 + €250 = €425 plus VAT @ 13.5% totals out at €482.38

The OP already acknowledged that his sister could have misunderstood the part about used parts too.

Personally HFC, I don't see much wrong with the quote his sister received if that's the case. It might be a shade more expensive than your quote (based on the correct math above) but then again it's hardly unreasonable and a new garage are likely to do everything they can to ensure she becomes a regular, so I'd be surprised if she ended up being charged for all the 8 hours anyway. Even if she was, you don't know if perhaps they've identified another possibly related fault, such as master/slave problems etc.

I think it all sounds very reasonable to be honest. Get her to ensure they're new parts fitted and that additional hours won't be paid for without prior agreement and she'll likely be fine

It's reasonable if the correct quality parts are being used, as has now been clarified by the OP. This was the only issue I had with the quote that was given.