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what hp to pull a 3 furrow rev plough?

  • 29-07-2012 12:10pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭


    well...... considering it was a 4wd would 100hp be enough??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭6480


    i pull a 4 furrow one way plough with a mf 4255 which is 90 hp and it works fine


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭iverjohnston


    Hi, you don't tell us if its a reversable or not. Ordinary straight one way plough, about 20/25 hp per furrow. A reversable will need a heavier tractor to counterbalance the weight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭rs8


    Hi, you don't tell us if its a reversable or not. Ordinary straight one way plough, about 20/25 hp per furrow. A reversable will need a heavier tractor to counterbalance the weight.

    yes 3 furrow reversable plough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭9935452


    rs8 wrote: »
    well...... considering it was a 4wd would 100hp be enough??

    It should be fine especially in tillage ground which has been ploughed before.
    I'm in west limerick where we would be ploughing clayey ground which has never been ploughed and a 150hp tractor pulling a 4 forrow non reversable with a ton of front weights on new tires struggles
    It also depends on the width each forrow is ploughing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,787 ✭✭✭brian_t


    For several years I pulled a Kverneland 3F 14" reversible same as this http://www.dslogan.com/archives/2490 with a John Deere 2850 86hp http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/001/3/1/1312-john-deere-2850.html

    Full set of weights needed but well able to pull it.
    A newer Kverneland may be a bit heavier though.

    By the way I have no connection with either of the above machines.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭nashmach


    70hp will handle a 3f straight plough.

    As the previous poster said a 80-85hp with weight should handle a reversible easily enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭grazeaway


    100 hp 4wd will be ideal. Like the boys above say 100 hp with a 4wd will do the job but you will need to have weight on the front to balance it out. A buddy of mine used to pull 4furrow rev with a jd 6310 with the loader left on when his 3350 broke down. That said depends on the soil type and depth too and how fast you wanna drive at.

    What tractor were you planning on using?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭rs8


    sorry havnt been on in a while, its a friend that asked me he has a tla 90 new holland. i think it would be strong enough with front weights


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Manoffeeling


    It ain't the pulling, it's the lifting......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭nashmach


    rs8 wrote: »
    sorry havnt been on in a while, its a friend that asked me he has a tla 90 new holland. i think it would be strong enough with front weights

    No bother to it.

    Several of these are lifting heavy competition 2f reversible ploughs at ease so a 3f standard reversible should be fine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭studdlymurphy


    Sorry to be resurrecting an old thread but I have the same question. Ploughing isn't far away and just thinking about it now. I use a 3 furrow Kverneland but would like to change to a 3 furrow reversible.
    So my question will an international cx90 handle it or struggle. 90 horsepower is what I have. I can weight the front and/or leave the loader on and weight it if needed.
    Will I be be wrecking the tractor?
    The ground is all flat some spots of clay in one field.
    I think pulling it will be fine but the lifting may be an issue?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Old thread is ok, not many ploughing threads here anyway.

    You should be ok, might get caught at a headland with a hill though. If there's a full set of discs on and skimmers they'll all add to the weight. What is the tractor rated to lift?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭studdlymurphy


    1.6 tonne. Wonder what the plough weighs when you factor in the lever effect of the plough out stretched a few meters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭studdlymurphy




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000



    Ya I looked that up for the fiat 110-90 yesterday, which is rated at 10,000lbs/4.5 ton approx. It lifts a 3 furrow rev fine but struggled a bit with the 4th furrow on even with a full set of weights up front. Now I admit an extra furrow out the back is maybe 40% extra weight to lift. You'll probably need a depth wheel on there as well:(.

    Is there an optional extra assistor ram to go on yours to lift the 2.3 ton instead of 1.6ton?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭studdlymurphy


    Seems to be an optional extra for more lift. I never came across it before but will have a look may be able to pick one up somewhere although may not be worth the effort just to change plough to reversible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭9935452


    Seems to be an optional extra for more lift. I never came across it before but will have a look may be able to pick one up somewhere although may not be worth the effort just to change plough to reversible.

    I was told that for a 4 furrow reversable you need to be able to lift 4 tonne. Which agrees with what the other poster says above

    A 390t massey is meant to have a 2.5 tonne lift and is known to struggle to lift 2 heavy fusion bales on that.

    In comparison if you tractor has a 1.6 ton lift i do believe you will struggle to get the plough off the ground regardless of weights.
    But the only way of really knowing is to borrow one and try it on the tractor .
    If it was me and i had a good standard 3 furrow id stick with it.
    Standard 3 and 4 furrow ploughs have fairly low value compared to reversables.
    It could end up costing a fair whack to upgrade. I work for a contractor who is in this predicament . Would love a reversable but cant justify it. .

    Btw how much ploughing do you do in a year ?


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