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Man thinks he's Jesus

  • 25-07-2012 9:25pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭


    Messiah or nutter?



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,969 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Nutter, everyone knows Jesus's hair is longer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    A delusional nutter, just like the first Jesus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,320 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Thread title is wrong because this guy doesn't think he's Jesus!

    he says he is because people it will make him money!

    And anyone stupid enough to believe him deserves to have their money taken!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Diego Maradona


    Mutter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,320 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    "Oh no!! Looks like that killing messiah stunt of yours has boomerang'd on us!"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    Ah he's ok, but he's no bowl of Special K!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    once he dies and it is medically proven then he comes back to life a couple of days later,

    but hangs around this time, I will follow him (has he got a mary)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    He's not the Messiah - he's a very naughty boy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭GAAman


    There was a fella on one of the forums here claiming this as well, and also wanting official recognition from the Irish govt of the same.

    You get them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Jesus Shaves


    The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭crazy cabbage




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Why are we so quick to dismiss this guy? He could be Jesus. I could be Jesus. So could you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,055 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    He's not the first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    Not the first nut, and will not be the last.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    heeez no geebus though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭Samich


    What if his name actually is Jesus? He technically is Jesus then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 Bison_Green


    Utter lunatic!It's a little bit scary to see just how much people are swept up buy this kind of crap. Tis also interesting that every single loopy bastard that suddenly decides that they're the 'messiah' immediately goes for the Robert Powell look. I guess they think nobody will take their divinity seriously if they don't look the part.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭WumBuster


    Ive done a bit of research of this guy and his teachings. First of all, he claims his partner is Mary magdeline, but Jesus was never married or in a relationship with Mary Magdeline, she was just a follower(ex-prozzie who he healed, according to the bible). secondly, as prophesised in the bible, there are 3 comings of jesus, the original one where lives on the earth and dies for the salvation of mankind(done), second coming is where he appears in the sky and makes a signal but goes away quickly without touching the ground, and the 3rd coming is where, after 7 years of rule by the anti-christ, he comes back to dethrone him, and end the world. On that basis, this guy is full of sheet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    that footage really does look like hidden camera stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭Samich


    WumBuster wrote: »
    Ive done a bit of research of this guy and his teachings. First of all, he claims his partner is Mary magdeline, ....

    .... and the 3rd coming is where, after 7 years

    Mary isn't very good at her job.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Jesus Shaves


    WumBuster wrote: »
    Ive done a bit of research of this guy and his teachings. First of all, he claims his partner is Mary magdeline, but Jesus was never married or in a relationship with Mary Magdeline, she was just a follower(ex-prozzie who he healed, according to the bible). secondly, as prophesised in the bible, there are 3 comings of jesus, the original one where lives on the earth and dies for the salvation of mankind(done), second coming is where he appears in the sky and makes a signal but goes away quickly without touching the ground, and the 3rd coming is where, after 7 years of rule by the anti-christ, he comes back to dethrone him, and end the world. On that basis, this guy is full of sheet.

    so how many times does jesus come?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭WumBuster


    so how many times does jesus come?

    3, according to the bible. But this couldnt be one of them for the reasons outlined on the above post. Jesus also warned- ''Beware, for many will come in my name''


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    you know, if jesus did exist, and he was the son of god, if he ever came back he'd find himself drugged up to the eyeballs in a nuthouse pretty sharp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭Atticus Jung


    Helix wrote: »
    you know, if jesus did exist, and he was the son of god, if he ever came back he'd find himself drugged up to the eyeballs in a nuthouse pretty sharp

    I suppose it beats a crucifixion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    Mick moved to America. After a while he began to suffer from depression and got very down in himself. Browsing the papers one day he spotted an ad-"Need help in your life, just call Jesus".
    Inspired, Mick called the number. The next day a Mexican with a lawnmower showed up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    WumBuster wrote: »
    Jesus also warned- ''Beware, for many will come in my name''
    ....oh God.... ....oh Jesus.... ....oh.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭WumBuster


    I suppose it beats a crucifixion.

    Its probably the modern day crucifixtion.But at the same time if he did appear today and was performing miracles left right and centre, i think a lot of people would be, ahem, convinced.especially with the internet and so on, he might get more of a target audience to believe him. But why should he? he's already done it once and look what happened. This notion that he should appear every 2 thousand years or anytime somebody doubts or wants proof to go through all that agony to show he's the son of man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭Peetrik


    At 2.01 as he talks about the blind people he healed he is shaking his head.

    Now I've watched at least three episodes of 'lie to me' so I can say with authority that this subconcious gesture means he has no confidence in what he is saying.
    He doesn't believe he has healed people.... I would almost risk the law suit of saying this man probably isn't Jesus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    WumBuster wrote: »
    Its probably the modern day crucifixtion.But at the same time if he did appear today and was performing miracles left right and centre, i think a lot of people would be, ahem, convinced.especially with the internet and so on, he might get more of a target audience to believe him. But why should he? he's already done it once and look what happened. This notion that he should appear every 2 thousand years or anytime somebody doubts or wants proof to go through all that agony to show he's the son of man.

    :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭crazy cabbage


    WumBuster wrote: »
    First of all, he claims his partner is Mary magdeline, but Jesus was never married or in a relationship with Mary Magdeline, she was just a follower(ex-prozzie who he healed, according to the bible).
    Never in a relationship. That is a laugh. How do you know? The bible which was heavly censored by the church who are not known for the treatment of women at the best of times??? See does crop up alot of time in the bible. Plus language changes over time. So what if jesus did have a sexual relationship with a woman. What difference does it make?
    she was a prozzie? Where does it say that she was a prostitute may i ask?
    WumBuster wrote: »
    secondly, as prophesised in the bible, there are 3 comings of jesus, the original one where lives on the earth and dies for the salvation of mankind(done)
    Back to the origional one. You are assuming that jesus is god, (or one that is part of 3 that is also the trinaty or whatever). First off jesus never said that he is god. He 'thought us' to say 'our father who art in...' See the our? That implys that we are all sons and daughters of god does it not? He 'came down from hevan and became man'. does this not mean that anything that he 'achived' we can also achieve if we put our mind to it? Might have to spend 20 odd years in medatation to do so (jesus's missing years). otherwise what was the point in becoming man?
    The divinaty of jesus crist was voted upon by those in the church a cuple of hundred years after his death in the treaty of nicea. The church was loosing members and they thought (rightly) that if they made jesus divine they would attract more members.

    On this basis i declare myself the son of god
    WumBuster wrote: »
    second coming is where he appears in the sky and makes a signal but goes away quickly without touching the ground, and the 3rd coming is where, after 7 years of rule by the anti-christ, he comes back to dethrone him, and end the world.

    Where does it say this? It proberly does say it somewhere but The bible says alot of things. Book of relevations says alot too. Interesting read if you ever get the chance.

    I have seen evidence that suggests jesus was a mushroom. Doesn't make it true. There is people who believe this. Google it if you dont believe me.still more believable than the orgional though
    On that basis, this guy is full of sheet.
    I agree :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭WumBuster


    Peetrik wrote: »
    At 2.01 as he talks about the blind people he healed he is shaking his head.

    Now I've watched at least three episodes of 'lie to me' so I can say with authority that this subconcious gesture means he has no confidence in what he is saying.
    He doesn't believe he has healed people.... I would almost risk the law suit of saying this man probably isn't Jesus.

    Ive watched a few of his videos(on youtube), and while he is definitely convincing(oscar worthy) in his lies, as a person who is conscious of body language signals, there is no way he is who he says who he is or even actually believes that he is Jesus.

    In another video he is getting interrogated by an Australian reporter and he becomes quite flinchy and defensive. If this guy is actually the real jesus(if there is such a person) he would be very calm and methodical and would answer any question thrown at him with superior logic and intellect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    He's far from nuts. Well possibly a psychopath. Doesn't believe a word of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    Helix wrote: »
    you know, if jesus did exist, and he was the son of god, if he ever came back he'd find himself drugged up to the eyeballs in a nuthouse pretty sharp
    Never in a relationship. That is a laugh. How do you know? The bible which was heavly censored by the church who are not known for the treatment of women at the best of times??? See does crop up alot of time in the bible. Plus language changes over time. So what if jesus did have a sexual relationship with a woman. What difference does it make?
    she was a prozzie? Where does it say that she was a prostitute may i ask?


    Back to the origional one. You are assuming that jesus is god, (or one that is part of 3 that is also the trinaty or whatever). First off jesus never said that he is god. He 'thought us' to say 'our father who art in...' See the our? That implys that we are all sons and daughters of god does it not? He 'came down from hevan and became man'. does this not mean that anything that he 'achived' we can also achieve if we put our mind to it? Might have to spend 20 odd years in medatation to do so (jesus's missing years). otherwise what was the point in becoming man?
    The divinaty of jesus crist was voted upon by those in the church a cuple of hundred years after his death in the treaty of nicea. The church was loosing members and they thought (rightly) that if they made jesus divine they would attract more members.

    On this basis i declare myself the son of god



    Where does it say this? It proberly does say it somewhere but The bible says alot of things. Book of relevations says alot too. Interesting read if you ever get the chance.

    I have seen evidence that suggests jesus was a mushroom. Doesn't make it true. There is people who believe this. Google it if you dont believe me.still more believable than the orgional though

    I agree :D

    The council of nicea decided on the trinity, Jesus was assumed God long before that. And it wasn't losing members it had just become a State religion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    GAAman wrote: »
    There was a fella on one of the forums here claiming this as well, and also wanting official recognition from the Irish govt of the same.

    You get them!

    Is that the guy that sent a load of flowers and pizzas to the World Atheist conference in Dublin last year but was too dumb not to give his real name and ended up paying for all the stuff himself while ensuring that everyone at the conference got a free meal out of it? Sound chap altogether!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭crazy cabbage


    The council of nicea decided on the trinity, Jesus was assumed God long before that. And it wasn't losing members it had just become a State religion.

    Assumed being the main word ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    Assumed being the main word ;)

    yes, Just correcting you on a point of fact.

    It's mostly Anglo Saxons who fall for this crap, well colonial ones, isn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭3rdDegree


    WumBuster wrote: »
    Ive done a bit of research of this guy and his teachings. First of all, he claims his partner is Mary magdeline, but Jesus was never married or in a relationship with Mary Magdeline, she was just a follower(ex-prozzie who he healed, according to the bible). secondly, as prophesised in the bible, there are 3 comings of jesus, the original one where lives on the earth and dies for the salvation of mankind(done), second coming is where he appears in the sky and makes a signal but goes away quickly without touching the ground, and the 3rd coming is where, after 7 years of rule by the anti-christ, he comes back to dethrone him, and end the world. On that basis, this guy is full of sheet.

    Where do you get this crap from? Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute!

    The rest of what you said was fine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭WumBuster


    3rdDegree wrote: »
    Where do you get this crap from? Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute!

    Oh, the rest of what you said was fine.

    Ok, Ok, RUMOURED to be a prostitute. My bible is wiki
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene#As_prostitute


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭crazy cabbage


    yes, Just correcting you on a point of fact.

    It's mostly Anglo Saxons who fall for this crap, well colonial ones, isn't it?

    I appologise. He was assumed to be god although jesus never said it.

    Thank you for the correction

    sound chap altogether


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭WumBuster


    dlofnep wrote: »
    A delusional nutter, just like the first Jesus.

    Ok so the first Jesus was just a delusional nutter who performed many miracles witnessed by thousands of people in different locations


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭N64


    Don't know if this guy has been mentioned before but this really reminds me of this guy:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Koresh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    N64 wrote: »
    Don't know if this guy has been mentioned before but this really reminds me of this guy:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Koresh

    They said that in the video.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭WumBuster


    N64 wrote: »
    Don't know if this guy has been mentioned before but this really reminds me of this guy:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Koresh

    Yip heard of that guy, the Waco cult i think it was. Already this guy(AJ Miller) he's only been on the scene a few years but he's been getting his followers to move into a commune type place with him, disconnect from their families, donating lots of money and predicting the end of the world soon. mass suicide beckons methinks(or something along those lines)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    WumBuster wrote: »
    Ok so the first Jesus was just a delusional nutter who performed many miracles witnessed by thousands of people in different locations

    And we have, of course, lots of records independent of the bible to confirm this. No wait....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    Why are we so quick to dismiss this guy? He could be Jesus. I could be Jesus. So could you.
    I'm Jesus and so is my wife.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    WumBuster wrote: »
    Ok so the first Jesus was just a delusional nutter who performed many miracles witnessed by thousands of people in different locations

    Like every other street magician


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭N64


    They said that in the video.

    Oh, sorry. I did not watch all of it :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭WumBuster


    And we have, of course, lots of records independent of the bible to confirm this. No wait....

    Well it was 2000 years ago, i dont think there are too many records about anything that happened then or before then. Most of the accounts that were recorded in the bible were either 2nd, 3rd or 4rth hand accounts of what happened and there seemed to be many of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭WumBuster


    Like every other street magician

    ya walking on water, its a bit of a stretch for david Copperfield with modern technology but hey, 2000 years ago, no problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    WumBuster wrote: »
    Well it was 2000 years ago, i dont think there are too many records about anything that happened then or before then. Most of the accounts that were recorded in the bible were either 2nd, 3rd or 4rth hand accounts of what happened and there seemed to be many of them.

    Well if 2nd, 3rd and hell even 4th hand accounts are good enough for you then it's good enough for me!


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