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Ferguson Ariva 250

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  • Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭downwiththatsor


    Thargor wrote: »
    Thanks STB, that will be the nuclear option if it gets any worse, well buying a 253 will be the nuclear option I suppose.
    I have swapped out a tuner in a ferguson before if it is the problem and you can find a replacement, easy enough job. Firmware change probably a good first option though as suggested.


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 Doodie123


    Thargor wrote: »
    Thanks STB, that will be the nuclear option if it gets any worse, well buying a 253 will be the nuclear option I suppose.


    I'm looking at a MeCool KIII Pro to replace the current rats nest of boxes and cables i have under the TV

    It's yer typical high-end android box, with a ton of ports and very good specs. It also has satellite tuners for FreeSat, as well as Digital TV inputs, plus ethernet, and USB3 ports for storage.

    It also supports those other features we're not supposed to talk about.

    i don't know if it supports Saorview specifically, but all the youtube reviews from around the world see to be glowing

    More details https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057773824 (the chigz channel linked reviews a LOT of android boxes)

    Brief checklist:
    Full 4K HD
    latest Android - so IPTV, Kodi, Netflix, etc. etc.
    Satellite and DVB-T with full EPG and recording to usb stick/HDD
    Internet + Youtube
    Moderate android casual gaming
    Ethernet and SD card support, plus 16GB storage


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,327 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Thanks for the info but this thread is specifically for information and comments about the ariva 250 box. Perhaps best to start a new thread for the box you mentioned.

    Desktop PC Boards discount code on https://www.satellite.ie/ is boards.ie



  • Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭downwiththatsor


    Tony wrote: »
    Great glad its worked out.

    I have an Ariva missing the front panel that has the model number on it, i thought it was a 150 and tried the clone method previously but i get ash now.
    It may be a 120 or other model, any other way to confirm as stickers give nothing away?
    Any ariva tools that might tell model number when connected with a null modem cable?
    thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    I have an Ariva missing the front panel that has the model number on it, i thought it was a 150 and tried the clone method previously but i get ash now.
    It may be a 120 or other model, any other way to confirm as stickers give nothing away?
    Any ariva tools that might tell model number when connected with a null modem cable?
    thanks

    The remote will tell you anyway tbh. See below.

    ASH is temporary, Just means you flashed the wrong firmware. Its easily resoved with a null modem cable. 120 has a different upgrade tool to 150 as they are 2 different chipsets, M3602 and 3606. The method is the same though.

    120
    M2U0OGM5NDg2ZmI1ZWRiZTI4YzFmY2Y2NjI0MmRmMWJMWDEAd5a8egKm6XctSrG3aHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmFkc2ltZy5jb20vNjQzYjY5ZDJlYWNiNWFmMzJjNmI2ZDc3YTYxODE3MWVhZjIxMDFmZGRhOTY2YzI2NWVhNWY4N2FiMzhmNWJkMy5qcGd8fHx8fHw1NTB4NDUxfGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuYWR2ZXJ0cy5pZS9zdGF0aWMvaS93YXRlcm1hcmsucG5nfHx8.jpg
    150
    Ferguson-Ariva-150-Combo-Receiver.jpg
    250
    NGQ4NWMyN2VmYTQ0ZDQ4MTc0MjlhMmViNjQxYmI5MWNeqzcAusIGUjMRqkqLVHFhaHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmFkc2ltZy5jb20vNGM5Yjc5YjNkZjc4M2UyNjcxOTcyMjE3ZmFkNTk4YzY5M2NiOTAwZTc3YTgzMTM4OTNmZjEyOTY4ZGYyMTNhMy5qcGd8fHx8fHw0MDB4MzAwfGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuYWR2ZXJ0cy5pZS9zdGF0aWMvaS93YXRlcm1hcmsucG5nfHx8.jpg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭downwiththatsor


    STB. wrote: »
    The remote will tell you anyway tbh. See below.

    ASH is temporary, Just means you flashed the wrong firmware. Its easily resoved with a null modem cable. 120 has a different upgrade tool to 150 as they are 2 different chipsets, M3602 and 3606. The method is the same though.

    120
    M2U0OGM5NDg2ZmI1ZWRiZTI4YzFmY2Y2NjI0MmRmMWJMWDEAd5a8egKm6XctSrG3aHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmFkc2ltZy5jb20vNjQzYjY5ZDJlYWNiNWFmMzJjNmI2ZDc3YTYxODE3MWVhZjIxMDFmZGRhOTY2YzI2NWVhNWY4N2FiMzhmNWJkMy5qcGd8fHx8fHw1NTB4NDUxfGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuYWR2ZXJ0cy5pZS9zdGF0aWMvaS93YXRlcm1hcmsucG5nfHx8.jpg
    150
    Ferguson-Ariva-150-Combo-Receiver.jpg
    250
    NGQ4NWMyN2VmYTQ0ZDQ4MTc0MjlhMmViNjQxYmI5MWNeqzcAusIGUjMRqkqLVHFhaHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmFkc2ltZy5jb20vNGM5Yjc5YjNkZjc4M2UyNjcxOTcyMjE3ZmFkNTk4YzY5M2NiOTAwZTc3YTgzMTM4OTNmZjEyOTY4ZGYyMTNhMy5qcGd8fHx8fHw0MDB4MzAwfGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuYWR2ZXJ0cy5pZS9zdGF0aWMvaS93YXRlcm1hcmsucG5nfHx8.jpg

    Thanks i think it is a 120 going by writing on the top of the unit, i dont have the remote.
    I will try the clone method using a null modem with a 120 tomorrow.
    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,008 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Thanks i think it is a 120 going by writing on the top of the unit, i dont have the remote.
    I will try the clone method using a null modem with a 120 tomorrow.
    Thanks

    That's definitely a 120 .... all the writing is exactly the same as the 120 I have here.

    EDIT: unless the 220 has exactly the same writing and physical appearance ..... ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Thanks i think it is a 120 going by writing on the top of the unit, i dont have the remote.
    I will try the clone method using a null modem with a 120 tomorrow.
    Thanks

    Could be a 220 too. More likely to be a 120 though. They were more commonly sold. Only one way to find out

    Firmware for 120 here

    Firware Upgrade Tool for 120 here


    Instructions for recovery with null modem cable.

    Recovery instructions for ARIVA boxes temporarily bricked.

    1. Download the latest firmware. Extract the .abs file from this zipped file to somewhere obvious (desktop for example).

    2. Download the Erom Upgrade tool.

    Extract the files.

    3. Connect your PC from its serial port to the boxes R232 port using the Null modem cable. Make sure box is off at switch on back.

    4. Double click the ArivaUpgrader.exe file that was extracted. It will pull up a dialog box. Select the Com port - default is 1. Baud Rate should be 115200. Parity=Even. Operate Mode= Upgrade. Include bootloader should be ticked.

    Pick the software you extracted as per No.1 above in the browse bar.

    Click next. Turn box on. Box will reboot when the file gets to 100%.


  • Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭downwiththatsor


    Confident its a 120 now thanks, i find the cloning method with a null modem the quickest and easiest, i have done it many times with various models now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Confident its a 120 now thanks, i find the cloning method with a null modem the quickest and easiest, i have done it many times with various models now.

    Cloning ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭downwiththatsor


    Connect to box of same model type, keep box to be cloned / copied on then power up the box on which you wan to copy the firmware and channel list. After a few mins the process will be complete and you will have two identical box setups.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Connect to box of same model type, keep box to be cloned / copied on then power up the box on which you wan to copy the firmware and channel list. After a few mins the process will be complete and you will have two identical box setups.

    If you have another model of this box, could you not tell straight off what model it was ???:D

    Cloning eh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭downwiththatsor


    Problem is the 120 is at my mums and i did not notice the fact that the writing on top of box was unique to the 120, cover is missing on the box and it was in the cupboard for a while, between my own box, siblings boxes and my mums ariva it gets confusing as a mixture of 120's 150's and 250's on the go.
    Will know in future ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,327 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    The box to box method is the handiest by far

    Desktop PC Boards discount code on https://www.satellite.ie/ is boards.ie



  • Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭downwiththatsor


    STB. wrote: »
    Could be a 220 too. More likely to be a 120 though. They were more commonly sold. Only one way to find out

    Firmware for 120 here

    Firware Upgrade Tool for 120 here


    Instructions for recovery with null modem cable.

    Recovery instructions for ARIVA boxes temporarily bricked.

    1. Download the latest firmware. Extract the .abs file from this zipped file to somewhere obvious (desktop for example).

    2. Download the Erom Upgrade tool.

    Extract the files.

    3. Connect your PC from its serial port to the boxes R232 port using the Null modem cable. Make sure box is off at switch on back.

    4. Double click the ArivaUpgrader.exe file that was extracted. It will pull up a dialog box. Select the Com port - default is 1. Baud Rate should be 115200. Parity=Even. Operate Mode= Upgrade. Include bootloader should be ticked.

    Pick the software you extracted as per No.1 above in the browse bar.

    Click next. Turn box on. Box will reboot when the file gets to 100%.

    I had to go down the upgrade tool method but sorted now.
    Had to upgrade the usb to serial driver but proceeded as described then. Now that ash is gone i will try the 120 to 120 box method.
    Thanks to all


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,926 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Thargor wrote: »
    Im getting a lot of stuttering on Saorview channels especially RTE 1, not an aerial problem as far as I can see, its more like when you try to watch a very HD video on a pc that doesnt have the specs to handle it, that kind of stutter. Turning the box on and off will fix it for a while but then it will start again another night, any clue what it might be? Satellite channels are perfect. Live pause/rewind is turned off so I doubt its a hdd issue...
    This seems to be confined to RTE One now, everything else is perfect.

    Is there any digital version of the "Fine Tune" option you used to have on analogue tuners?

    Also is that version of RTE One the only one currently broadcasting? Is there an SD version I could try on Saorview or HD on a different frequency?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Thargor wrote: »
    This seems to be confined to RTE One now, everything else is perfect.

    Is there any digital version of the "Fine Tune" option you used to have on analogue tuners?

    Also is that version of RTE One the only one currently broadcasting? Is there an SD version I could try on Saorview or HD on a different frequency?

    This sounds like the signal for your mux with RTE 1 HD channel is weak. You'd have more errors on a HD channel than an SD in borderline scenarios.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,926 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Thargor wrote: »
    Im getting a lot of stuttering on Saorview channels especially RTE 1, not an aerial problem as far as I can see, its more like when you try to watch a very HD video on a pc that doesnt have the specs to handle it, that kind of stutter. Turning the box on and off will fix it for a while but then it will start again another night, any clue what it might be? Satellite channels are perfect. Live pause/rewind is turned off so I doubt its a hdd issue...
    Adjusting the aerial seems to have resolved this thankfully, which is weird because I have perfect reception downstairs in a different room with a 2 foot length of cable from a broken aerial and the Ariva is connected to a massive aerial in the attic...


  • Registered Users Posts: 48 Ph3arTh35k1llz


    Hi Folks,
    any of you guys got an up to date Firmware file (1.31b2) with the latest Channel List for the 250Combo?
    Only getting set back up again and ive got 2 of them that have been in a box for 15 months!

    Thanks in advance


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,508 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nowso


    there is no more firmware updates for the box , only that atr the patched version of that firmware


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  • Registered Users Posts: 48 Ph3arTh35k1llz


    Nowso wrote: »
    there is no more firmware updates for the box , only that atr the patched version of that firmware

    Yup understand that the box is E.O.L. but was wondering if there was an updated file with channel lists that I could just flash the boxes with and be up and running with minimal effort.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,926 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    I put a terrabyte hdd in the parents Ariva for them to record to, theres about 660 GB used with 300 GB free according to both the Ariva and plugging it into my pc but whenever I try to record anything it just pops up a message saying "LIMIT: Can Not Record", does anyone know if that is the limit or whats the story?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Thargor wrote: »
    I put a terrabyte hdd in the parents Ariva for them to record to, theres about 660 GB used with 300 GB free according to both the Ariva and plugging it into my pc but whenever I try to record anything it just pops up a message saying "LIMIT: Can Not Record", does anyone know if that is the limit or whats the story?


    This HDD formatted in NTFS ?


    In the back of my mind I have 500GB as the limit, but given you have surpassed that!!!


    Go in and turn off timeshift and see if that has any effect. Otherwise you'll have to start deleting stuff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,926 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Timeshift has been turned off since day one, I'm going to try moving it all to my laptop, reformatting it with the Ariva and then moving the files back, bit of a pain though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,926 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Scanned it with chkdsk in Win10, it found some errors, told it to repair them, seems to be working fine now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 965 ✭✭✭gabbo is coming


    Hi

    A log of my channels are coming up as no signal, do you know how I fix this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,676 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Irish channels or UK ones? Which ones are OK, which not?


  • Registered Users Posts: 965 ✭✭✭gabbo is coming


    zg3409 wrote: »
    Irish channels or UK ones? Which ones are OK, which not?

    Channel 4+1 stopped working

    Sky news
    Cnn
    E4


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,676 ✭✭✭zg3409


    I dont think the channels changed recently, someone else can confirm.

    If some of the other channels are freezing or breaking up, then you dish may have rusted, moved in the recent winds etc. If that is the case ask whoever installed the dish to fix it, it may need a new dish if it is more than 3 years old as they rust quickly. I would not recommend having a go yourself as you really need test equipment and some experience.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,545 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    CH4+1, E4+1 Film4+1 and More 4 moved to 10936 V 22000 5/6


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