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First steps into game keeping!!!!

  • 24-07-2012 8:00pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭


    So I've finished my pheasant release pen and the poults get here tomorrow,
    I never had any idea how much work was involved :eek:

    Instead of pics I made a vid, I usually hate voice over vids but as soon as I hit record I felt compelled to talk!!!!:o



    I'll put pics of the birds up tomorrow


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭LB6


    Fair play - nice work done. Loving the little loving touch of the fat balls :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭landkeeper


    can you cut back some of the overhanging/close to the fence branches , once they start going up to roost they will be out the next morning depending on the birds you get that could be the 2nd day ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭Stevegeraghty


    landkeeper wrote: »
    can you cut back some of the overhanging/close to the fence branches , once they start going up to roost they will be out the next morning depending on the birds you get that could be the 2nd day ;)

    Wings will be clipped so I hope it'll keep them down for a while but I'll look at taking the branches back a bit,cheers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭landkeeper


    don't wing clip them is my advice :eek:if they get out they are easy meat for anything predatory ,it's ok in a great big release pen ,but with this weather that pen of yours will be in muck in no time (no offence meant) if you have to let them out early your snookered or rather they are:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭Stevegeraghty


    landkeeper wrote: »
    don't wing clip them is my advice :eek:if they get out they are easy meat for anything predatory ,it's ok in a great big release pen ,but with this weather that pen of yours will be in muck in no time (no offence meant) if you have to let them out early your snookered or rather they are:o

    Too late, they will be here in the morn :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭landkeeper


    how many and what age


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭Stevegeraghty


    landkeeper wrote: »
    how many and what age

    25 @6 weeks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭blackstairsboy


    Lovely pen steve it seems to have an ideal amount of cover, roosting and also sunning areas.
    Hope it works out for you sure it is all part of the game. Keeps the interest going throughout the summer months. I was just thinking to myself today looking at my pheasants that it is gas to think that in a few months time the dogs could be hunting one of them miles away when they both started life in the same farmyard at home. Just a funny thing I thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭mallards


    I've seem Steve’s pen first hand and its a hell of a lot of work for one guy. It looks the business and I hope the birds do well in it for ya. All the hard work will be well worth it when that first rooster of the season falls to your shot and your dog brings it back to ya!
    Best of luck,
    Mallards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭Double Barrel


    I usually hate voice over vids but as soon as I hit record I felt compelled to talk!!!!:o

    Ah lad you're a natural. :D;)

    Great job on the pen BTW.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭berettaman


    Great Work. That is a lovely set up. Can't wait to see pics of when the birds are in it. Nice one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭EPointer=Birdss


    Nice job. Well done. Hope it goes well for you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 388 ✭✭Stonehall9


    Great work lad,a lot for a boy on his own!! But you have the work done for the future! What part of the country are you in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭Stevegeraghty


    Thanks for the comments folks, the birds went in about 11.30 and what a day for it, sun is shining and no rain.
    I just checked them there and they seem to be settling, I can't seem to get any decent pics as no matter what side of the pen I'm at they all leg it to the other side and there is too much in the way

    I'll stick a few up later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭alan86


    Fair play lad savage job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭Stevegeraghty


    All iPhone pics I'm afraid, I try remember the camera tomorrow
    It's amazing how quick they learnt how my feeding system works!!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭Tawny Owl


    Thanks for the comments folks, the birds went in about 11.30 and what a day for it, sun is shining and no rain.
    I just checked them there and they seem to be settling, I can't seem to get any decent pics as no matter what side of the pen I'm at they all leg it to the other side and there is too much in the way

    I'll stick a few up later
    Don't worry about them running the other side of the Pen they will settle down and you will be able to get quite close and get good photos great set up we have the same set up in the Club but not as much electric fence on the out side I saw a small hole in our Pen the other day and bent down to put cable ties on it till I came back to secure it and my knees tipped the fence such a bang and a yelp I let out of me just keep a close on on them if they start coughing anyway well done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭daniels.ducks


    Lovely looking birds. Well feathered! Fine size for 6 week olds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭garyc007


    great pen for one person. i know myself how hard it is. the gunclub decided to get poults so i currently have 15 of them in my pen, its funny cos the last adult cocks i released are stil around (many believed they wouldnt be!!) and are going mad outside the pen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭223Shooter


    Great setup and best of luck with them!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭Stevegeraghty


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    Has an escape last night so had to open up the pop holes, I think he was just roosting on a branch near the side panel and just hopped out so I herded him Bach in!

    They are doing well and growing like mad, happy out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    You’ve got the basis for a great pen. I would put a few lengths of corrugated around one of the corners, it gives the birds some protection and stops them from being spooked. Did you bury the wire along the sides? Have you got water in there for them?

    Looking at the ramp thingy in the last photo in post #17, I’m not sure how it works? Is there a gap for them to get in at the top? Usually the birds will run along the ground on the outside of the pen and some are so stupid that they will run past the poppers, so it is a good idea to have a ‘gatherer’ to channel them in to the pop hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭terminator2


    great looking pen , best of luck ......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭Stevegeraghty


    Looking at the ramp thingy in the last photo in post #17, I’m not sure how it works? Is there a gap for them to get in at the top? Usually the birds will run along the ground on the outside of the pen and some are so stupid that they will run past the poppers, so it is a good idea to have a ‘gatherer’ to channel them in to the pop hole.

    the birds are funneled like normal but they go up the ramp which is covered and the pop through the fox grid and down into the pen, the fact that it is 18" off the ground it means you don't need the wire tubes/funnel on the inside, the don't flatten it by sitting on it.

    I also didn't want there to be any chance that they might walk out, I want to encourage them to fly as much as possible. Last night I decided to slightly modify the fox grids just to guarantee they wouldn't jump out, the fact they are raised is meant to stop them from jumping up but I wanted to make sure so I made non return flaps, a bit over kill I know but it puts my mind at ease!!

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    A little vid I found on how they work

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHn2f43rVR0&feature=youtube_gdata_player


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭Stevegeraghty


    A bit of an update and a few questions!

    I still have 13 birds in and around the pen, I started wits 27, a few were got by fox, sparrow hawk and a few spread their wings

    The dog got one one day:mad: I came over a ditch and there were 10 or so sunbathing and the springer managed to catch one,god love it because the hound dragged it backwards through a gorse bush and through a barbed wire fence, needless to say it didn't make it, I was so angry with myself, alot more training was needed, especially the stop whistle

    The ones that are hanging around the pen are getting big, so big in fact that they struggle to get back through the fox grids, I've stopped really trying to herd them back in in the mornings as it just stresses them out
    TBH I don't really keep on top of the elec fence any more because they roost in the trees around the pen.

    My questions are,
    1: do you keep the feeders topped all year round or only part of the year?
    2: when do I walk away from the pen,leaving the door open and removing the elec fence altogether?

    They have the pen stripped bare, I plan on planting it up with some hardier cover for next year, I know I'm very early to be thinking about next year but I like to have a plan in my head



    Cheers
    Steve


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭wildfowler94


    A bit of an update and a few questions!

    I still have 13 birds in and around the pen, I started wits 27, a few were got by fox, sparrow hawk and a few spread their wings

    The dog got one one day:mad: I came over a ditch and there were 10 or so sunbathing and the springer managed to catch one,god love it because the hound dragged it backwards through a gorse bush and through a barbed wire fence, needless to say it didn't make it, I was so angry with myself, alot more training was needed, especially the stop whistle

    The ones that are hanging around the pen are getting big, so big in fact that they struggle to get back through the fox grids, I've stopped really trying to herd them back in in the mornings as it just stresses them out
    TBH I don't really keep on top of the elec fence any more because they roost in the trees around the pen.

    My questions are,
    1: do you keep the feeders topped all year round or only part of the year?
    2: when do I walk away from the pen,leaving the door open and removing the elec fence altogether?

    They have the pen stripped bare, I plan on planting it up with some hardier cover for next year, I know I'm very early to be thinking about next year but I like to have a plan in my head



    Cheers
    Steve

    Id spread a few feeders over all my permissions, the wild ones will even feed on them if the winter gets hard, also just some advice people say use wheat and yes I agree with them to an extent, but unless your getting it cheap off a farmer or that it becomes dear especially with the way things are, so what we were using was a mix of rolled barley and sweepings from a local feed supplier! Also this time of year I work the dogs on the birds, setting and flushing them, giets them that bit more wild and sporting. Wf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭Stevegeraghty


    I have 17 feeders spread over about 100 acres

    Costing me a fortune to feed all the crows,whats worse, they have all gone to roost by the time I get out with the gun!! :mad::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭garyc007


    steve
    I would have opened the door and turned off the fence a good while ago.they need to get used to the big bad wild world :)
    as for the feeders,cut down,keep feed in whatever ones are used most,i only keep a few topped up and not all the time but it keeps them coming back every so often
    gary


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭Stevegeraghty


    To be fair they spend very little time in there, an hour or so before they go to roost

    A little vid of the home made feeders in action

    http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/stephengeraghty/994A79B8-ED30-4F0D-B209-46DF4B3F5B8D-4246-00000195F67782D7.mp4


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭mallards


    Wild broods have been very poor this year except for the partridges but then that wouldn't have been hard as we don't usually get any to breed. Only for the stocked birds it would be a very poor season for pheasants.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-W81_qRpes&feature=youtube_gdata_player


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭garyc007


    To be fair they spend very little time in there, an hour or so before they go to roost

    A little vid of the home made feeders in action

    http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/stephengeraghty/994A79B8-ED30-4F0D-B209-46DF4B3F5B8D-4246-00000195F67782D7.mp4


    how exactly do they work? i must have a go at making one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭wildfowler94


    Put a couple of pallets against the feeders and branchs around the crows wont go near them! Pheasants and partridge still will


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭Stevegeraghty


    garyc007 wrote: »
    how exactly do they work? i must have a go at making one

    I'll do a little vid on it


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