Chipping just off the green advice

Luckycharm

Chipping from about 5 yards off the green is killing me - I will always try a long putt rather then chip but there are often times where there is rough and have to chip. I am generally ok when 15-20 yds not great but don't duff it.
I tend to quit on chip shots which can lead to me duffing it about a 1ft ahead.
Worst ones are when pin is close so don't have green to play with.
Another one is just off green but might a bit of a slope to go over and ball is buried
Any advice what club do you use? Any good videos on it.

charlieIRL

I use an 8 or 9 iron and a putting stroke which results in a "bump n run" Has worked very well for me so fat this year.

mikeunt

get out the 60 deg vokey and google hinge & hold technique
and robert is your fathers brother

dak

A Jigger ! €20 in Halpenny ! Works for me .

PARlance

64 degree wedge, only option (also only works about 10% of the time... but when it works you're the boss)

I've put mine to rest in the shed, not going to put it for sale just yet, if I can get it up to 20% success rate it'll be back )

Have started using 8 iron with putting stroke of late.
Works best for me.

Some lads I know have Jigger!

Luckycharm

charlieIRL wrote: »

I use an 8 or 9 iron and a putting stroke which results in a "bump n run" Has worked very well for me so fat this year.

Bump and run I find is good if you have some green to play with but main prob is when you have very little green and greens are quick.

Going to look at that hinge and hold method- think my biggest prob is accelerating through - more confident in greenside bunker then same position on fairway

Luckycharm

dak wrote: »

A Jigger ! €20 in Halpenny ! Works for me .

Might look at this only prob with this would be have to take out another club from bag

irish bloke

Use a 50 degree for nearly everything now around the greens (except bunkers)

Got a tip some time back from a master around the greens (3 H-caper)regarding delicate chips just on the fringe/close to the flag.

Address the ball with your wedge much closer to your feet then normal set up, so that the toe of the wedge is on the ground and the heal is up in the air. Play the ball from the toe of the wedge.

A. This allows you to hit the ball harder (accelerate more) and it does not go as far.
B. Less of a chance of a duff if the club hits the ground first.

Ill be honest and say i don't use it myself because my technique works for me at present, but he swears by it

blindside88

Luckycharm wrote: »

dak wrote: »

A Jigger ! €20 in Halpenny ! Works for me .

Might look at this only prob with this would be have to take out another club from bag

Have a jigger myself but u do get some funny looks using it. People associate the jigger with an 80 year old man

Myksyk

I have three basic chipping actions which I use interchangeably depending on the situation and what you want to do with the ball.

1. Hinge and hold a la Mickelson (get his app) - use this to put check on the ball or land it a little more softly where you're short-sided. Also for lob shots.
2. One hinge chip - no break of wrists. Better distance control and allows for run out.
3. The putt-chip mentioned above - place the ball much closer to the feet and use a putting stroke (almost .. hands will still be forward, ball at back foot). Use this for delicate chips where the flag is within 10 to 15 feet for example.

These three options provide a fairly comprehensive arsenal for your short game around the green.

TheDoc

Having trouble with chipping from a few yards of green

Recommend using 60* lob wedge



Take a PW, 9 iron or 8iron depending how far you need to the ball to run. Then move your hands forward, ball back in your stance and make a putting stroke.

You will get a nice bump and run, the literally MUST HAVE shot in every golfers bag.

When your comfy with that, and you have a gap wedge (52*) start using that. A gap wedge can play a number of shots

High flight low run
Low flight high run
Low flight check
High flight check

You generally have about 6 shots around the green a Gap wedge can perform. Its my go too club when chipping and I'd never consider anything else, least of all a lob wedge.

A lob wedge is literally for

You need serious airtime over a bunker, hill or hazard, with a small amount of space between said bunker/hill/hazard and pin.
For some strange reason you take a lob wedge to knock a ball sky high into a pin from fairway.

I'm actually seeing so many people using lob wedges around the green or for some approach shots, and cant fathom why they are confused when it doesnt work out.

Its an unneccesary risk

mikeunt

TheDoc wrote: »

Having trouble with chipping from a few yards of green

Recommend using 60* lob wedge



Take a PW, 9 iron or 8iron depending how far you need to the ball to run. Then move your hands forward, ball back in your stance and make a putting stroke.

You will get a nice bump and run, the literally MUST HAVE shot in every golfers bag.

When your comfy with that, and you have a gap wedge (52*) start using that. A gap wedge can play a number of shots

High flight low run
Low flight high run
Low flight check
High flight check

You generally have about 6 shots around the green a Gap wedge can perform. Its my go too club when chipping and I'd never consider anything else, least of all a lob wedge.

A lob wedge is literally for

You need serious airtime over a bunker, hill or hazard, with a small amount of space between said bunker/hill/hazard and pin.
For some strange reason you take a lob wedge to knock a ball sky high into a pin from fairway.

I'm actually seeing so many people using lob wedges around the green or for some approach shots, and cant fathom why they are confused when it doesnt work out.

Its an unneccesary risk

well like everything else if you practice withe the 60 deg and master it you wont look back
you will see the ball fizzed at the pin taking all slopes out of play and then checking up and stopping on the 3rd bounce
truly a sight to behold
a must have shot for golfers with aspirations of lowering their handicap

Danny dyers double

Like the OP this was a big problem for me , but I came across a YT video that was a big help .

Like other have said I now use my PW with a soft putting stroke , but you have to make sure you get under it because iv often went trough the ball and have being left further away from the pin on the far side of the green ðŸ˜႒

spacecoyote

Also make sure you're not trying to scoop the ball with club. Your wedges have loft,hit a firm stroke through the ball & the loft will lift the ball for you

My name is Mud

I recently discovered that using a hybrid like a putter for those shots works well. Only on the tightly mowed part of the fringe. Depends on the green really

heavyballs

oh f*** i hate these threads

mr.jingle

heavyballs wrote: »

oh f*** i hate these threads

Very helpful post :rolleyes:

OP, as a pitch and putt player I do be chipping a lot of the time onto very small targets and onto quick greens. Personally i use a 60* lob wedge Ping Eye Precision imitation club(Not much different to the real Ping Eye). As was said before this can eliminate all the humps and slopes on a green when used properly and the only way to use it properly is forcefully going through with your chip as the check and stop on the ball will come, it's up to you to trust in your swing.

On a less slopey chip i would more likely close the face of the club stand in front of the ball and hit it like a 7/8 iron keeping the ball rolling like a putt but also you get that little bit of check bounce and it runs out quite smoothly.

Next time your going out to play get there earlier and have a few chips around the practice green in all honesty it's the only way to improve and you will mentally feel the better from it as your confidence grows and the duffing will stop.

heavyballs

mr.jingle wrote: »

heavyballs wrote: »

oh f*** i hate these threads

Very helpful post :rolleyes:

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In actual fact It's more useful than most of the posts in this thread,I haven't confused the op

Anyway,op,buy a gap wedge and practice,use lob wedge only when needed,ie over a bunker or if rough is mad thick

Boskowski

I used to have a problem with these and what really happened was that I took the club back way too far for the shot at hand. Subconsciously I then would decelerate ('quit') and the result would be totally unpredictable. Chunked. Duffed. Skimmed. Anything could happen. But the root cause was I took the club back (way) too far. It took someone else pointing that out to me though.
Now that that's sorted and while still not a great chipper at least I can chip and get it safely on for a decent putt at it. And good chips start to happen even.

Could it be that?

As for chipping styles I wouldn't be a good enough golfer to give such advice really, but just off the green logic would have it that a chip-putt style with a 6, 7, 8 or 9 would seem the least risky shot. Especially when your chipping confidence is low anyway.

TheDoc

mikeunt wrote: »

well like everything else if you practice withe the 60 deg and master it you wont look back
you will see the ball fizzed at the pin taking all slopes out of play and then checking up and stopping on the 3rd bounce
truly a sight to behold
a must have shot for golfers with aspirations of lowering their handicap

In fairness I agree in a sense that its a nice shot to have in the bag. But in my opinion using a high degree wedge (58*+) for whats a routine chip with no immediate hazard etc. in the line, I don't think its something people should be trying.

At the end of the day its whatevers comfortable and whatever works, but I guess just from having a look, seems to be a dramatic rise in mid-high handicappers using lob wedges for whats a relatively routine chip, adding un neccesarry risk.

I know I did it at a younger age thinking I was a ****ing boss getting mad check, but when it doesnt happen, or you check to early and your left miles short, or it fires past the hole, its just such a delicate and specific shot with little room for error.

I even notice most Pros have dumped the lob wedge ( which was very popular for routine chipping) for the last few years, and this year noticing so much more of them using gap wedges or sand wedges to generate a bit of run after the initial check.

Davidth88

mr.jingle wrote: »

Very helpful post :rolleyes:

OP, as a pitch and putt player I do be chipping a lot of the time onto very small targets and onto quick greens. Personally i use a 60* lob wedge Ping Eye Precision imitation club(Not much different to the real Ping Eye). As was said before this can eliminate all the humps and slopes on a green when used properly and the only way to use it properly is forcefully going through with your chip as the check and stop on the ball will come, it's up to you to trust in your swing.

On a less slopey chip i would more likely close the face of the club stand in front of the ball and hit it like a 7/8 iron keeping the ball rolling like a putt but also you get that little bit of check bounce and it runs out quite smoothly.

Next time your going out to play get there earlier and have a few chips around the practice green in all honesty it's the only way to improve and you will mentally feel the better from it as your confidence grows and the duffing will stop.

I would concur with this ....

irish bloke

mr.jingle wrote: »

Very helpful post :rolleyes:

OP, as a pitch and putt player I do be chipping a lot of the time onto very small targets and onto quick greens. Personally i use a 60* lob wedge Ping Eye Precision imitation club(Not much different to the real Ping Eye). As was said before this can eliminate all the humps and slopes on a green when used properly and the only way to use it properly is forcefully going through with your chip as the check and stop on the ball will come, it's up to you to trust in your swing.

On a less slopey chip i would more likely close the face of the club stand in front of the ball and hit it like a 7/8 iron keeping the ball rolling like a putt but also you get that little bit of check bounce and it runs out quite smoothly.

Next time your going out to play get there earlier and have a few chips around the practice green in all honesty it's the only way to improve and you will mentally feel the better from it as your confidence grows and the duffing will stop.

Would it be safe to say as a pitch and putt player you are playing off tee's on every hole?

If so it would make sense to use a 60 lob wedge here as its alot easier to get the back of the ball every time when on a tee.

60 degree will give you great air time and stop on a six pence if you are any way proficient, therefore with the amount of tee shots vs. pitch shots, its a no brainer to use a 60 degree for Pitch and Putt.

TheDoc

Boskowski wrote: »

I used to have a problem with these and what really happened was that I took the club back way too far for the shot at hand. Subconsciously I then would decelerate ('quit') and the result would be totally unpredictable. Chunked. Duffed. Skimmed. Anything could happen. But the root cause was I took the club back (way) too far. It took someone else pointing that out to me though.
Now that that's sorted and while still not a great chipper at least I can chip and get it safely on for a decent putt at it. And good chips start to happen even.

Could it be that?

As for chipping styles I wouldn't be a good enough golfer to give such advice really, but just off the green logic would have it that a chip-putt style with a 6, 7, 8 or 9 would seem the least risky shot. Especially when your chipping confidence is low anyway.

I think its a common enough error for players to take a bigger then required backswing, then think " o ****" and decelerate causing some **** shots.

I was doing it for some time, I take a more controlled shorter backswing, but make sure to accelerate through, that is what will get you your spin in you want to be checking the ball, or the run if you want to bump it.

Da also through me a little tip two weeks ago. He noticed that I was focusing too much on cutting accross the ball for spin and check, and in some cases was breaking my wrists. The cutting accross is fine, but keeps things stiff and try make the followup towards the target.

Working well the last two weeks being pretty decent getting up and down, pity it doesnt work out of ****ing bunkers.

Luckycharm

Danny dyers double wrote: »

Like the OP this was a big problem for me , but I came across a YT video that was a big help .

Like other have said I now use my PW with a soft putting stroke , but you have to make sure you get under it because iv often went trough the ball and have being left further away from the pin on the far side of the green ðŸ˜႒

Can you post a link to that YT video? Was using the lob wedge a bit but when it goes wrong it goes very wrong. Biggest problem is deceleration - should you feet be close together when chipping? WIll go up on Thurs to practise.

mr.jingle

irish bloke wrote: »

Would it be safe to say as a pitch and putt player you are playing off tee's on every hole?

If so it would make sense to use a 60 lob wedge here as its alot easier to get the back of the ball every time when on a tee.

60 degree will give you great air time and stop on a six pence if you are any way proficient, therefore with the amount of tee shots vs. pitch shots, its a no brainer to use a 60 degree for Pitch and Putt.

Yes i play from a tee all the time.

I was actually talking about chipping not the shots from 100yards in. Around the green i'd use my lob wedge (maybe as i'm used to the P&P) but do it with great effect in the ways i suggested, I've been playing P&P 17yrs so i'd like to think i was a good chipper of the ball around the green and it easily takes 5-6 shots off my golf game over the average club/society golfer

kincsem

Use the club that gets the ball rolling on the green soonest making sure you clear the rough / apron / bunker first.

Zardoz

TheDoc wrote: »

A lob wedge is literally for

You need serious airtime over a bunker, hill or hazard, with a small amount of space between said bunker/hill/hazard and pin.
For some strange reason you take a lob wedge to knock a ball sky high into a pin from fairway.

I'm actually seeing so many people using lob wedges around the green or for some approach shots, and cant fathom why they are confused when it doesnt work out.

Its an unneccesary risk

I use a 60 degree vokey for almost all shots around the green and find it a great club.
I can manufacture all sorts of shots with it,low run shot,high carry ,bump and run etc,very versatile club.
I used to use a combination of SW,PW and 8 iron to play these shots but I switched to the LW a few years ago and my short game improved dramatically .