Think of a new tax!

LoYL

What about a new tax: that which has never been taxed before but will raise significant amounts. Even if very small amounts a volume could generate income. A log on tax?

Tonto86

Think we had this thread before....

Diego Maradona

Shite thread tax!

Oops you owe €67,837,988.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

cannabis?

wendell borton

Fap tax.

phasers

Laziest minister for finance ever. At least think up for own feckin taxes Michael

notnumber

A tax on imposing taxes..that way they would eventually bankrupt themselves.

Lyaiera

Bear tax.

notnumber

A tax on windows would also be a fine idea.

crazy cabbage

Tax credits for being fit (based on BMI or % body fat or whatever). Extra tax if you outside certain limits.

To me this makes alot of sence. Would make alot of people healtier, not to mention the millions that it would save the HSE.

And to those that say the my whole family is 'fat' or that it runs in the family i will only say that it isn't genetic. There is only a very few very rare dieseases that are truly genetic.

Tombi!

Complaining about the government tax or complaing about the weather tax.

Sure to raise trillions upon trillions.

phasers

crazy cabbage wrote: »

Tax credits for being fit (based on BMI or % body fat or whatever). Extra tax if you outside certain limits.

To me this makes alot of sence. Would make alot of people healtier, not to mention the millions that it would save the HSE.

And to those that say the my whole family is 'fat' or that it runs in the family i will only say that it isn't generic. There is only a very few very rare dieseases that are truly generic.

I think you mean genetic

Would pensioners be exempt? Personally I plan to get super fat when I'm a pensioner because by then you're bound to die soon anyway so why not have some fun? I'll also take up drinking in the morning and smoking tons of weed.

seantorious

Chugger tax. You don't pay with money, the public kill you.

christmas2012

tax their (politicians) bonuses and air they breathe to lie with..

areyawell

fingering your arse tax

Pushtrak

The trying to bring in new tax tax.

3ndahalfof6

body hair and freckles

BBDBB

incorrect word usage tax, literally

Yamanoto

crazy cabbage wrote: »

There is only a very few very rare dieseases that are truly generic

You mean genetic?

Your idea's whack btw.

token101

Vag Tax. Only women and Ryan Tubridy pay.

redzerologhlen

token101 wrote: »

Vag Tax. Only women and Ryan Tubridy pay.

Male homosexual couples take over the country as a result :rolleyes:

aaronjumper

Tracksuit tax. Think of the money that would be made!

mikemac1

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SdoowSirhc

A Tax on Tax! My own OC

My name is URL

I love how most people see tax as a means of eliminating elements of society that they dislike. Sure when all the stuff you hate has disappeared there'll be no reason for taxes to exist. Utopias like that pay for themselves!

wendell borton

Lyaiera wrote: »

Bear tax.

I pay the Homer tax. Let the bears pay the bear tax.

.

crazy cabbage

phasers wrote: »

I think you mean genetic

Would pensioners be exempt? Personally I plan to get super fat when I'm a pensioner because by then you're bound to die soon anyway so why not have some fun? I'll also take up drinking in the morning and smoking tons of weed.

Yes. sorry. I am very stupid when it comes to spelling. sorry

I would think so yea. Pensioners have it hard enough as it is.

Your idea's whack btw.

Is 'whack' good or bad?

An incentive for people to keep healty seem to be a good idea. If you dont want to be healty you are bound to be the one that will end up costing the tax payer the most money in medication and HSE expenses and so is in not resonable that they should pay more

The people who keep themselves fit and healty dont genearly cost near as much money to the HSE so why should they take the burden for people who eat mc donnals ever day and have not excersied since they were in school?

Of course there is going to be people with medical conditions or whatever that will make them exempt but i dont see why it shouldn't work for 98% of the population.

Logical_Bear

A tax on being alive..pay more as you get older

phasers

crazy cabbage wrote: »

Yes. sorry. I am very stupid when it comes to spelling. sorry

I would think so yea. Pensioners have it hard enough as it is.


Is 'whack' good or bad?

An incentive for people to keep healty seem to be a good idea. If you dont want to be healty you are bound to be the one that will end up costing the tax payer the most money in medication and HSE expenses and so is in not resonable that they should pay more

The people who keep themselves fit and healty dont genearly cost near as much money to the HSE so why should they take the burden for people who eat mc donnals ever day and have not excersied since they were in school?

Of course there is going to be people with medical conditions or whatever that will make them exempt but i dont see why it shouldn't work for 98% of the population.

Question.


My Dad is pretty fat but has never been sick. I mean he's had the odd cold but he's never been seriously unwell and thus has never cost the taxpayer anything. He's worked his whole life and pays PRSI. Is it really fair that my Dad pays an extra tax even though he has never been any kind of burden on anyone? In fact he's funded other people's healthcare through his taxes.

bbam

notnumber wrote: »

A tax on windows would also be a fine idea.

thats been done before in Ireland has it not...

areyawell

Cannabis tax, country would make a bomb

crazy cabbage

phasers wrote: »

Question.


My Dad is pretty fat but has never been sick. I mean he's had the odd cold but he's never been seriously unwell and thus has never cost the taxpayer anything. He's worked his whole life and pays PRSI. Is it really fair that my Dad pays an extra tax even though he has never been any kind of burden on anyone? In fact he's funded other people's healthcare through his taxes.

Glad to hear you dad has never been sick. I see your point and thanks for the response. That system would be somewhat unfair.
I am thinking on the spot here.

prehaps a better system would be just giving tax credits to people who keep healty/fit/whatever?

kr7

bbam wrote: »

thats been done before in Ireland has it not...

That's where the expression 'daylight robbery' comes from.

Tazio

notnumber wrote: »

A tax on windows would also be a fine idea.

Microsoft pay lots already here in this country...

kr7

A tax on the economy turning corners......

arybvtcw0eolkf

LoYL wrote: »

What about a new tax: that which has never been taxed before but will raise significant amounts. Even if very small amounts a volume could generate income. A log on tax?

I'd put a one cent tax on every receipt (not every item on that receipt).

So whether your receipt is for 99c or skies the limit, I'd have a 1 cent tax on it.

I'd simply call it an 'emergency tax' or something simple like that.

Lyaiera

Ari Billions Hamster wrote: »

whether your receipt is for 99c or skies the limit, I'd have a 1 cent tax on it.

You've inspired me!

A 1c tax on anything costing €X.99

kr7

Road tax for cyclist's?

The Master.

kr7 wrote: »

Road tax for cyclist's?

Road tax for cars!

fasttalkerchat

A tax on total money in all bank accounts and market value of assets over the year paid on a pro-rata basis. eg. if you owned a €200k house for 6 months you pay half the yearly rate. If you make 50k but spend it all you pay less because it is in line with your outgoings etc. etc.

fasttalkerchat

The Master. wrote: »

Road tax for cars!

That's already ridiculous in ROI! Cyclists to pay a fiver a year for a permit and fins for no helmet or cycling on footpaths or obstructing traffic purposefully..

charlemont

Toilet tax

mikemac1

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

A tax on total money in all bank accounts

Dirt Interest Retention Tax, DIRT

And it's a nasty 30%

And you don't escape if you go to Rabobank, they may be Dutch but Michael Noonan still takes his money

crazy cabbage

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

A tax on total money in all bank accounts and market value of assets over the year paid on a pro-rata basis. eg. if you owned a €200k house for 6 months you pay half the yearly rate. If you make 50k but spend it all you pay less because it is in line with your outgoings etc. etc.

That would only encourage people not to save. If i knew i was going to be taxed on what i didn't spend then i would spend it all.

Plus you have all ready been taxed on your 50k earnings. This would just be another tax afterwords

Why not just bring in a 3rd rate of tax and put it at like 70% if you earn over 100k per year.

fasttalkerchat

crazy cabbage wrote: »

That would only encourage people not to save. If i knew i was going to be taxed on what i didn't spend then i would spend it all.

Plus you have all ready been taxed on your 50k earnings. This would just be another tax afterwords

Why not just bring in a 3rd rate of tax and put it at like 70% if you earn over 100k per year.

I see it as a short term measure. One way to avoid it would to invest in a pension or invest in Irish bonds. Other wise you can spend which feeds back into the system.

As for a 70% tax. As much as I am a lefty, I don't agree with taxation beyond 50% for some but not for others. Its unfair that other's benefit more than you from your work.

PogMoThoin

How about a 1 cent tax on all texts, make people look for free alternatives. As a nation we send far too many of them and the phone networks make an absolute packet for something that's 100% profit and puts no strain on their network.

Son Of A Vidic

phasers wrote: »

Laziest minister for finance ever. At least think up for own feckin taxes Michael

Not defending the fúckwit, but Merkel is wearing the trousers so she does the deciding

keith16

A leaving town tax.

crazy cabbage

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

I see it as a short term measure. One way to avoid it would to invest in a pension or invest in Irish bonds. Other wise you can spend which feeds back into the system.

As for a 70% tax. As much as I am a lefty, I don't agree with taxation beyond 50% for some but not for others. Its unfair that other's benefit more than you from your work.

Haha. ok. 70% proberly is a bit much. i would still like to see a third rate of tax introduced for the very wealty. even if it is 55% for over 500k. I dont really mind as long as very rich people pay a higher rate of tax than the average earner.

And you said that the tax would be on all money in the bank account. Would this apply to companys? What if it is a multi-national company? that would only encourage them to bank with someone outside ireland. Also have to think when would this apply. is it the money in the account as of a certain date or the money that passed through the account through out the year?

Also who values the 'market value of assets'. Is it the companys own valueation (as in balance sheet) or are assets independantly assesed? What if some of the assest are outside the country?

fasttalkerchat

crazy cabbage wrote: »

Haha. ok. 70% proberly is a bit much. i would still like to see a third rate of tax introduced for the very wealty. even if it is 55% for over 500k. I dont really mind as long as very rich people pay a higher rate of tax than the average earner.

And you said that the tax would be on all money in the bank account. Would this apply to companys? What if it is a multi-national company? that would only encourage them to bank with someone outside ireland. Also have to think when would this apply. is it the money in the account as of a certain date or the money that passed through the account through out the year?

Also who values the 'market value of assets'. Is it the companys own valueation (as in balance sheet) or are assets independantly assesed? What if some of the assest are outside the country?

I was talking about individuals but something similar could be applied to companies.
Basically you pay half the rate if the money was only in your account for 6 months. If you spend all your wages in the first week on the month you pay only 1 twelfth of the rate for that amount.

crazy cabbage

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

I was talking about individuals but something similar could be applied to companies.
Basically you pay half the rate if the money was only in your account for 6 months. If you spend all your wages in the first week on the month you pay only 1 twelfth of the rate for that amount.

Interesting idea though. I still think that this will stop people saving.

lets say that i have a savings account that i dont take money out of. I have 5k in there. I will be taxed on that. No problems there.
Next year i still have 5k (plus interest - tax). Will i be taxed again on the same money and at a higher rate becouse the money was in there longer?

that is it. I am hiding my money under my bed