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What Movie critic do you ahte the most?

  • 19-07-2012 11:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭


    Let's face it, most of them are idiots.

    I can't stand George Byrne.
    Pompus fool with his dismissive attitude.

    Mods, fix my title!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    George reminds me alot of posters on here. He has the same sensibilities.

    BTW what did he review that upset you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭Ronanc1


    Cosmo Landesman from the Culture in the Sunday Times!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    I hate any critic who panders to the reader (only going to see the mainstream movies and writing for people who rarely even go to the cinema) and is dishonest in their reactions to the movie (reviewing it based on an arbitrary target market that may not even exist, even if they themselves were bored by the film).

    But I do get a little annoyed when people naively slam all critics and forget the fact that so many amazing films would not even reach an audience if not for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    A critic has to get the right balance between reviewing a movie for those people it is aimed at and also to movie goers who only occassionally visit the cinema and who normally watch Indy movies on DVD due to lack of theatrical release.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Kinski


    I feel equal measures of contempt and admiration for Mark Kermode.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭Skinfull


    I stopped reading reviews a few years ago because I could never find a critic that agreed with me on even 50% of movies. I loved Barry Norman when he was doing The Film Program, but didnt love when Jonathan Ross took over.

    But I especially hate the unpaid critic (ie Joe Bloggs) who will dismiss an entire genre of movie because they have seen one bad one, or even not at all. If you don't like a particular genre then fine (I hate period dramas ala Emma or Wuthering Heights but I've given it so many chances to win me over, it almost got me with Howards end). but you have to be open to being surprised by a film, any film, any genre. To dismiss them outright is doing yourself a disservice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭Psychedelic


    Roger Ebert. He seems to give all the films I like bad reviews, and his reviews (not that I've read that many) seem to be nothing more than mere summaries of the film rather than any deep analysis. I can't remember what else it is about him I don't like but I know he just really irritates me any time I see one of his reviews.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,804 ✭✭✭delbertgrady


    Cosmo Landesman always seems to be contrary just for the sake of it. There's nothing wrong with advocating your own point of view, but more often than not, he'll pan films that are getting universal praise, and find merit in films that everyone else slates. Such repeat offending suggests he just does it out of spite.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    Kermode! He's got that hipster douche way of hating whatever is popular no matter what


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    Roger Ebert. He seems to give all the films I like bad reviews, and his reviews (not that I've read that many) seem to be nothing more than mere summaries of the film rather than any deep analysis. I can't remember what else it is about him I don't like but I know he just really irritates me any time I see one of his reviews.
    I think Ebert is overrated too. I've also noticed that tendency he has to write reviews composed of a summary (often containing spoilers) and very little analysis.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    I bloody hate Ebert's habit of spoilers. I notice that he does it more often in films that he does not like and it feels really spiteful, as if he wants you not to enjoy it if he did not.

    I can not read his reviews anymore because of the spoiler threat (I used to read them because if he hated something then I would probably like it)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I actually wish a few more critics were less concerned with spoilers. Not being able to go into detail about the plot automatically limits the potential for in-depth analysis. There should be a clearer divide between reviews and analysis, naturally, and it should be flagged clearly if there's potential narrative surprises discussed. But the problem is many great film writers don't tend to re-examine films after the initial review, which is an unfortunate restriction on more deeper layers of discourse.

    That's another topic I guess, but there's a good article from Donald Clarke in The Ticket today about how obsession over spoilers is kind of killing the potential for online criticism. Flag it properly, and I see no reason why more critics shouldn't be delving into more than a star rating.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    It depends on the type of review they're doing. If it's for a recent release there's not much point in analysing a movie which most people haven't seen yet


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    It's actually probably beneficial kicking off a more in-depth discussion as soon as people have seen it (or with a short delay), as it would let more people get involved in the discussion while its still fresh in people's minds. The well-written Film Crit Hulk stuff is actually a good example of how to go about it, albeit with a slightly geekier skew on the subject matter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    I actually wish a few more critics were less concerned with spoilers. Not being able to go into detail about the plot automatically limits the potential for in-depth analysis. There should be a clearer divide between reviews and analysis, naturally, and it should be flagged clearly if there's potential narrative surprises discussed. But the problem is many great film writers don't tend to re-examine films after the initial review, which is an unfortunate restriction on more deeper layers of discourse.

    That's another topic I guess, but there's a good article from Donald Clarke in The Ticket today about how obsession over spoilers is kind of killing the potential for online criticism. Flag it properly, and I see no reason why more critics shouldn't be delving into more than a star rating.


    Flagging it is great but Ebert never did, in my experience


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    the slashfilm podcast is good at discussing new stuff and have a specific spoiler segment so you can skip forward to avoid it, I rarely listen to newspaper critics, most of them dont even seem to like films, then there's the ones who just love everything. Harry Knowles (if you can call him a critic) is mine, gushing over anything his bff's Del Toro and Rodriguez make and pissing on anything that didnt give him set access.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Kinski


    That's another topic I guess, but there's a good article from Donald Clarke in The Ticket today about how obsession over spoilers is kind of killing the potential for online criticism. Flag it properly, and I see no reason why more critics shouldn't be delving into more than a star rating.

    But couldn't reviewers working for established publications just maintain a blog with more detailed, spoilerific analysis, so you could get their general impression of the film from review in the paper (or wherever), then check out what they wrote on the blog after?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 363 ✭✭FishBowel


    Dave Fanning - calling De Niro 'Bobby' in a TV interview. Show some respect you tosspot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    al28283 wrote: »
    Kermode! He's got that hipster douche way of hating whatever is popular no matter what
    He has given this Summer alone positive reviews to Prometheus, The Dark Knight Rises, Avengers and The Amazing Spider-Man. His number 1 film of 2010 grossed over 800 million worldwide, and another in the top 3 grossed over a billion.

    Just saying!!! Doesn't strike me as somebody who is setting out to hate what's popular.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    FishBowel wrote: »
    Dave Fanning - calling De Niro 'Bobby' in a TV interview. Show some respect you tosspot.

    What if DeNiro said "call me Bobby"?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,849 ✭✭✭Cartman78


    re: Kermode - very knowledgeable & has a lot of interesting things to say but would like to see him detached from Simon Mayo as their chumsy double-act has became quite nauseating in my opinion.

    Filmspotting and The /Filmcast are pretty decent movie podcasts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭OldeCinemaSoz


    Chris Tookey, he of The Irish Mail, (a rag even Bertie regretted
    letting into the country), has to be the most reprehensible piece of Right
    Wing vomit to put word to paper since that clown LittleJohn scribbled in The Irish Sun.

    :mad:


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