Hamburg Strategy

bryangiggsy

Dont really get why Noble and Morrison are racing in Hamburg this weekend while the olympics are only 2 weeks away. Whats the strategy u think? Quick splash?

tunney

bryangiggsy wrote: »

Dont really get why Noble and Morrison are racing in Hamburg this weekend while the olympics are only 2 weeks away. Whats the strategy u think? Quick splash?

They will have recovered by Monday from the race. Getting sharp and prepped perhaps.

peter kern

bryangiggsy wrote: »

Dont really get why Noble and Morrison are racing in Hamburg this weekend while the olympics are only 2 weeks away. Whats the strategy u think? Quick splash?

i dont really get whats your issue
do you have a better idea to prepare for a race that involes fighting in the water ...
hamburg is a good london simulation course.
and its a place aileen has good memories from getting her first World series podium.

bryangiggsy

peter kern wrote: »

i dont really get whats your issue
do you have a better idea to prepare for a race that involes fighting in the water ...
hamburg is a good london simulation course.
and its a place aileen has good memories from getting her first World series podium.

Who said i have an issue?

Can understand why they would go along. aileen to get her confidence back in the water after a poor swim by her standards in kitzbuhel.
Gavin to get some race fitness as he has had injury issues. I did read on gavin s blog before that he needs at least 2 weeks between races to recover and race well.
Personally i think its a big risk to take on Aileens behalf. Her race fitness is there. thats why i would not be surprised for her not to finish the race and just to use is as a good training day. I could be wrong..

Going off topic now on another observation. Obviously everyone knows how important it is to make that first bike pack. However if that bike pack is 20 strong coming into t2 how important is it to be at the front of the pack? Brownlees seem to come in always at the front of the bike pack, get out first...therefore not getting caught up in the traffic

Bambaata

Id say Aileens only objective in this race is to swim with the lead pack. She might then hang with the lead bike pack but id guess she wont drill the run and will almost use it as the cool down after the other two. Maybe if swim doesnt go well she'll try bridge and then coast the run

BTH

It's only a sprint. Gavin surely doesn't need two weeks to recover from a sprint, and Aileen aint going to be taxed too much by it either. I would question the logic of an Olympic distance race two weeks out, but I can completely see the benefits of a sharpening up this close to the big one.

bryangiggsy

BetterThanHoyte wrote: »

It's only a sprint. Gavin surely doesn't need two weeks to recover from a sprint, and Aileen aint going to be taxed too much by it either. I would question the logic of an Olympic distance race two weeks out, but I can completely see the benefits of a sharpening up this close to the big one.

Thought it was an olympic. makes more sense if sprint

BTH

bryangiggsy wrote: »

Thought it was an olympic. makes more sense if sprint

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peter kern

bryangiggsy wrote: »

Dont really get why Noble and Morrison are racing in Hamburg this weekend while the olympics are only 2 weeks away. Whats the strategy u think? Quick splash?

you said you dont get it ....
the thing is her coach has done a fantstic job over the last four years, selected races very smartly to her ability, they work very well as a team.
so just trust them ...
and if you did not even know it was a sprint .......

they will now what they want to get out of this and it could be anythin from hard swim and going for the win.
( i hope she dosnt win as this would put to much pressure on her for london)

bryangiggsy

peter kern wrote: »

you said you dont get it ....
the thing is her coach has done a fantstic job over the last four years, selected races very smartly to her ability, they work very well as a team.
so just trust them ...
and if you did not even know it was a sprint .......

they will now what they want to get out of this and it could be anythin from hard swim and going for the win.
( i hope she dosnt win as this would put to much pressure on her for london)

Agreed. the coach has done a fantastic job over the last 4 years so will have to trust him on this one

El Director

As BTH say's, it is only a sprint and imo an ideal prep opportunity two weeks out. I can see Aileen going all out to made the lead pack in the swim, coast in the pack then and I'd actually think she will not hold back for the 5k.

Getting close now to the big day(s) #excited :cool:

bryangiggsy

El Director wrote: »

As BTH say's, it is only a sprint and imo an ideal prep opportunity two weeks out. I can see Aileen going all out to made the lead pack in the swim, coast in the pack then and I'd actually think she will not hold back for the 5k.

Getting close now to the big day(s) #excited :cool:

When a gun backfires

peter kern

if it makes you happy
nicola spirig won ironman 70.3 antwerp today ........

bryangiggsy

peter kern wrote: »

if it makes you happy
nicola spirig won ironman 70.3 antwerp today ........

Why wud that make me happy ?

peter kern

you are of the opinon a oly distance race is not good and where happier when you learned it was a sprint.
so i guess you are close to an heart attack if a medal contendor does a half ironman ;-)

anyway sutto has a very strong believe that the half is a great distance for everybody for oly it gives stamina for ironman speed.

and one would guess stto knows quite well that she will have to role up the field in london and the only person likely to help her is nordan.

peter kern

btw i counted roughly 50 olympians racing this weekend.
and many will race the french grand prix next week .
and iam sure i have missed some as i would expect people to race 2 weeks before the olympics.

bryangiggsy

peter kern wrote: »

you are of the opinon a oly distance race is not good and where happier when you learned it was a sprint.
so i guess you are close to an heart attack if a medal contendor does a half ironman ;-)

anyway sutto has a very strong believe that the half is a great distance for everybody for oly it gives stamina for ironman speed.

and one would guess stto knows quite well that she will have to role up the field in london and the only person likely to help her is nordan.

Am out of loop here...is spirig a sutto disciple ? ..very impressive performance. So is it going to be a sutto v coach daz showdown in London.

peter kern

you forget jenkins and the australiens riveros.
i think spirig is with sutton for the last 5 years could be longer this is just how far i can think back.
its quite impressive if you think that spirig ( a very decent person i have to say) finished a law degree and can practise now while being one of the top ten oly triathletes and the worlds best female half ironman.

bryangiggsy

peter kern wrote: »

you forget jenkins and the australiens riveros.
i think spirig is with sutton for the last 5 years could be longer this is just how far i can think back.
its quite impressive if you think that spirig ( a very decent person i have to say) finished a law degree and can practise now while being one of the top ten oly triathletes and the worlds best female half ironman.

Very impressive. Steffen is with Sutton too and she was bloody impressive in Frankfurt. Another machine. Looking forward to seeing how well she does in Kona.
The womens race in the olympics this time around is going to be awesome. 4 yrs ago snowsill and fenandes stood out from the crowd
This time around u have.......spirig...densham..jackson...norden..roberts..jenkins....findlay..haug..morrison..moffatt..am sure am missing a few too

Bambaata

Spirig is looking very strong. Hard to know though as Jenkins seems to be taking the opposite approach to her in keeping quiet. I think Spirig is mentally very strong too and that seems something Sutton really hammers into his athletes, she wont be afraid of anyone and will fancy her chances if she's in a leading pack off the bike.

peter kern

Bambaata wrote: »

Spirig is looking very strong. Hard to know though as Jenkins seems to be taking the opposite approach to her in keeping quiet. I think Spirig is mentally very strong too and that seems something Sutton really hammers into his athletes, she wont be afraid of anyone and will fancy her chances if she's in a leading pack off the bike.

jenkins is mentaly very strong too and her husband and coach, has quite a sutton character too and would abuse athletes verbaly in racing that did not do their share on the bike ;-0

jenkins unlike ailleen is very a experienced and thats why its good for aileen to race. and jenkins dosnt wont to be in the lime light before home race so it makes total sense for her not to race. and i dont think jenkins has not in the top 4 in a swim ever and she is not really planning to ride in a pack in london ....