Door to door scam

nudger

2 girls around 10-14 years old collecting for St Margarets school, when questioned she said St Margarets Navan.
Spotted a boy around the same age also collecting on the other side of the road, he was very pissed off having to do the collecting as nobody was entertaining him.
Checked and couldn't find a St Margarets school in Navan.
Dublin 7 area.

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nudger wrote: »

2 girls around 10-14 years old collecting for St Margarets school, when questioned she said St Margarets Navan.
Spotted a boy around the same age also collecting on the other side of the road, he was very pissed off having to do the collecting as nobody was entertaining him.
Checked and couldn't find a St Margarets school in Navan.
Dublin 7 area.

They have a St Margarets Football sponsor card to.
I grilled him obviously. Kid was a great actor, pretended he was a little 'slow'.
Heard him later on with a traveller accent.

You live in swords?

Aisling1989

Have you contacted the Gards re this?

DELTATIP

Traveller - children aging 10-13 trying to sell knock off / fake perfumes in the Upper Fairhill area Cork City yesterday

This operation has to be motivated by adults :cool:

nudger

Celeste Late Page wrote: »

They have a St Margarets Football sponsor card to.
I grilled him obviously. Kid was a great actor, pretended he was a little 'slow'.
Heard him later on with a traveller accent.

You live in swords?

Same one's I'd say.
This was 5 ish on the Navan road Dublin7.
She mentioned her mother was in a car close by.

nudger

Aisling1989 wrote: »

Have you contacted the Gards re this?

Just alerting boardies to dodgy collections, don't think they are up to much else as after they ring the door they move to the next house quickly, not hanging around to ring a few times to see if anyone is home.
If this had been the case then AGS might have been buzzed.

joeperry

I think anyone coming around collecting for a school at this time of year is very suspicous as the schools are all on holidays!!

ThisRegard

The same kids 'collecting' for St. Margarets where in Dublin 15 on Friday. Saw them as I drove up so sat in the car until they wandered off, they didn't. The little wagon came over to the car and started banging on the car window at me ! Told her I had no money but she still knocked on the house door a few minutes later.

There was a car with who presumably was her mother and someone else were driving around after them.

chin_grin

ThisRegard wrote: »

The same kids 'collecting' for St. Margarets where in Dublin 15 on Friday. Saw them as I drove up so sat in the car until they wandered off, they didn't. The little wagon came over to the car and started banging on the car window at me ! Told her I had no money but she still knocked on the house door a few minutes later.

There was a car with who presumably was her mother and someone else were driving around after them.

Did you get the reg of the car they were in and report them?

nudger

There back this evening 6 kids the first 3 are with them and 2 cars following behind them, running door to door.
Tried to get through to Cabra station 4 times, phone kept ringing out.

Danye

Kids going around Ballyfermot looking for sponsorship for St. Matthews boxing club and it has nothing to do with the club.

Mr Simpson

If you get one of these coming to your house, call the guards asap. They may have a unit in the area who can check it out.

Lucy and Harry

What can the cops do to kids?

Mr Simpson

Lucy and Harry wrote: »

What can the cops do to kids?

They're teenagers (well some of them) so can be prosecuted. Also you can guarantee there are adults not too far away who can be prosecuted for orchestrating it.

tricky D

It's not just kids. There's been plenty of reports of bogus collectors in north Co Dublin 'working' for various entities: sports clubs, community groups etc... Iirc some Malahide sports club and others from NCD were mentioned and also the Baldoyle Community Forum which never does door-to-door.

nudger

Lucy and Harry wrote: »

What can the cops do to kids?

It's more what can the cops do to the parents who are pimping their kids out begging.
To be honest there are a lot of frail OAP'S in the area and they are vulnerable to these wide kids who would be in the door in a light.

donaghs

The school kids belong to the "Travelling Community". They don't go to the schools, hence the sketchy knowledge of what they are supposed to be collecting for.

Noopti

Usually get similar "will you sponsor me" kids calling around the Santry area at least once a month. Obviously dodgy with the crude piece of paper with names scrawled on it.

lukesmom

2 boys came to my door 2 weeks ago collecting for 'St Margarets football club in Dublin'. They were great little actors and I grilled them. They had traveller accents also. Gave them €2. I probably shouldn't have but I felt a bit sorry for them.

ThisRegard

And that's why this scam continues to go on.

seanhalpin

lukesmom wrote: »

2 boys came to my door 2 weeks ago collecting for 'St Margarets football club in Dublin'. They were great little actors and I grilled them. They had traveller accents also. Gave them €2. I probably shouldn't have but I felt a bit sorry for them.

Too damn right you shouldn't have. It is this carry on that perpetuates the scam. It makes it worth their while.

You should have told them to go get fcuked up the hole.

Lawrence1895

lukesmom wrote: »

2 boys came to my door 2 weeks ago collecting for 'St Margarets football club in Dublin'. They were great little actors and I grilled them. They had traveller accents also. Gave them €2. I probably shouldn't have but I felt a bit sorry for them.

How exactly do you define a 'traveller accent'?

seanhalpin

Lars1916 wrote: »

How exactly do you define a 'traveller accent'?

D'ya like DAGS?

Yawns

Lars1916 wrote: »

How exactly do you define a 'traveller accent'?

Tell you what, come down to me today in Tallaght and I'll walk you by the halting site. You can learn first hand how to define the traveller accent.

Danye

Lars1916 wrote: »

How exactly do you define a 'traveller accent'?

As different to the accent of a settled person.



On a side not, people should know that it's not only travellers at this scam and it's not every traveller in the country that are at it.

Lawrence1895

Maybe after 8 years in the country, I should be able to spot out the difference between a 'traveller accent' and the accent, someone has, who lives in a 'rough' area?

seanhalpin

Lars1916 wrote: »

Maybe after 8 years in the country, I should be able to spot out the difference between a 'traveller accent' and the accent, someone has, who lives in a 'rough' area?

To be perfectly honest, yes. They are quite different and could be spotted a country mile away.

For a newcomer maybe, but 8 years you ought to be able to differentiate. It's not just accent, the look, mannerisms and dress style are also distinctive.

Lawrence1895

seanhalpin wrote: »

To be perfectly honest, yes. They are quite different and could be spotted a country mile away.

For a newcomer maybe, but 8 years you ought to be able to differentiate. It's not just accent, the look, mannerisms and dress style are also distinctive.

Most of them are wearing school uniforms, just to mention it

bobin fudge

of course you can/should be able to tell a traveller accent if you have spent any reasonable length of time in ireland.

this scam happens regularly in the area im in and most if not all that I have witnessed doing it are locals from the area

Lawrence1895

bobin fudge wrote: »

of course you can/should be able to tell a traveller accent if you have spent any reasonable length of time in ireland.

this scam happens regularly in the area im in and most if not all that I have witnessed doing it are locals from the area

Sorry, but I can't do that. It never really bothered me, if it was a traveller's kid annoying me, or just a local kid without manners and/or some rude language. That's why I never tried to spot out the difference between different accents.

im invisible

they're at it again tonight, going door to door, with their hands out, expecting me yo give them something

Riesen_Meal

im invisible wrote: »

they're at it again tonight, going door to door, with their hands out, expecting me yo give them something

At it as well out my way, some of them are even dressing up as vampires and demanding sweets or they will play a trick on me ....

bobin fudge

Lars1916 wrote: »

Sorry, but I can't do that. It never really bothered me, if it was a traveller's kid annoying me, or just a local kid without manners and/or some rude language. That's why I never tried to spot out the difference between different accents.

you are not making much sense. You initially ask how you can tell a travellers accent, people reply, now you are claiming you can/wont anyway -so why ask?

I too couldnt give a **** if it is a traveller or not -they both get told "no thanks" anyway

Lawrence1895

bobin fudge wrote: »

you are not making much sense. You initially ask how you can tell a travellers accent, people reply, now you are claiming you can/wont anyway -so why ask?

I too couldnt give a **** if it is a traveller or not -they both get told "no thanks" anyway

I was asking out of curiosity, tbh.

Let's put it this way, if I was asked in a decent manner, I'm more than happy to give something. And I need to know, if they are collecting for a genuine cause.

JuliusCaesar

I just say that I only give to children I know. I've had too many of these little scammers call to the door.


There are far and away so many charities that between friends, family and colleagues I give away enough - in addition to my own favourite ones.

donaghs

Lars1916 wrote: »

How exactly do you define a 'traveller accent'?

How many accents can you 'define'!

Nonetheless, different accents do exist. Julia Roberts in "Michael Collins" was clearly trying out a few.

Lawrence1895

donaghs wrote: »

How many accents can you 'define'!

Nonetheless, different accents do exist. Julia Roberts in "Michael Collins" was clearly trying out a few.

I would say Cork, the 6 Counties, Scotland, Australia, South Africa, London, Liverpool...and Dublin, because it sounds different from the rest of the country.

lukesmom

Lars1916 wrote: »

How exactly do you define a 'traveller accent'?

Because I haven't spent the past 32 years under a rock

lukesmom

seanhalpin wrote: »

Too damn right you shouldn't have. It is this carry on that perpetuates the scam. It makes it worth their while.

You should have told them to go get fcuked up the hole.

Yeah you are right, I won't be so stupid next time they call.

OneIdea

Lars1916 wrote: »

How exactly do you define a 'traveller accent'?

"Do you like dags?"
"Wana buy a set of sokits?"
"Wana buy a new rugs, we have all the latest?"

lukesmom

OneIdea wrote: »

"Do you like dags?"
"Wana buy a set of sokits?"
"Wana buy a new rugs, we have all the latest?"

Would ye like yeor gutthers cleared missis?

OneIdea

lukesmom wrote: »

Would ye like yeor gutthers cleared missis?

"...or some devedees, we also do the half inch three inch tamak"

Sorry for the OT OP...

goz83

Their Gutther cleaning is a scam too from what i've seen. Unless ou watch them, teywill do nothing more than throw a leaf or two from their pockets into the garden. €20 for climbing a ladder is a bit rich. My guttersneeded a clear out in the summer, so I let them do the front of the house and I watched. They didn't have change of a €50 though

Wanted me to pay them €50 and promised to bring back change :rolleyes:

Bring me €30 and you get €50 I say annd I was surprised they didn't even call back!

mosi

goz83 wrote: »

Their Gutther cleaning is a scam too from what i've seen. Unless ou watch them, teywill do nothing more than throw a leaf or two from their pockets into the garden. €20 for climbing a ladder is a bit rich. My guttersneeded a clear out in the summer, so I let them do the front of the house and I watched. They didn't have change of a €50 though

Wanted me to pay them €50 and promised to bring back change :rolleyes:

Bring me €30 and you get €50 I say annd I was surprised they didn't even call back!

They've been doing that one around Dublin lately...although, I think the one that came to my house was more interested in scoping out the place to rob. It was about 11am one morning a few weeks ago, and the doorbell rang a few times. There was a good bit of knocking as well. As the OH went to the door to check it out, the letterbox opened! OH opened the door and this traveller nearly jumped out of his skin. He said he was doing work next door (which he wasn't) and did we want the gutters done. Needless to say, the OH politely declined.

Davidth88

mosi wrote: »

They've been doing that one around Dublin lately...although, I think the one that came to my house was more interested in scoping out the place to rob. It was about 11am one morning a few weeks ago, and the doorbell rang a few times. There was a good bit of knocking as well. As the OH went to the door to check it out, the letterbox opened! OH opened the door and this traveller nearly jumped out of his skin. He said he was doing work next door (which he wasn't) and did we want the gutters done. Needless to say, the OH politely declined.

We get this every bank holiday , usually on the Friday or the Sat .... quite obviously looking to see who is away.

Had them knocking one time at 22:30 at night !