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Student fired-Am I entitled to anything?

  • 14-07-2012 9:00pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭


    just quick question. Ive been Fired from my employment, which I've been working at for over 5 years.However i am a college student( Aged 23), but was wondering if i am entitled/able to claim anything like job seekers allowance/Dole etc as i cant seem to find any work, but it puzzles me as because i am a student i always thought i wasnt entitled to anything.

    thanks,

    distressed un-employed student


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭miller50841


    Go to your local office with all info of hours date worked from and till. Were you paying tax?
    Did you get made redundant or actually fired?
    What happened if you don't mind me asking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭psalbmb


    Go to your local office with all info of hours date worked from and till. Were you paying tax?
    Did you get made redundant or actually fired?
    What happened if you don't mind me asking

    yes i was paying tax, and i was fired. they said i was stealing, however with lack of evidence i am taking them to court, but sure thats another issue. its just i am stuck with no money and very hard to find a job,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,625 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    If you weren't a student you'd apply for JSB and probably get it, but I'm not sure as you're a student. Worth asking though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭miller50841


    Sounds like bad experience and sad you were treated like that hope all works out for you.
    Go to local social office and bring all your details with you.

    Goodluck


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I'm almost certain that only Mature students can claim Jobseekers during the summer, regardless of JSB entitlements.

    It was changed with affect from June 2011 iirc.

    http://www.welfare.ie/EN/OperationalGuidelines/Pages/jb_jobseekben.aspx


    (e) JB Disqualification - course of study
    The legislation provides that a person shall be disqualified from receipt of Jobseeker's Benefit while attending a course of study (including school/college holiday periods from 28th June 2011), except in such circumstances as may be prescribed. The exceptions to this disqualification are:

    a) persons aged 21 years or over who have been in receipt of JA/JB for at least 6 months and who are participating in approved courses of education, training or development (as per above),
    and
    b) mature students, i.e. persons over 23 years of age on or before 1st January in the year in which the course of study commences.
    Deciding Officers should note that disqualification while attending a course of study is completely separate from the availability condition. As mature students are exempted from this disqualification, they may be entitled to Jobseeker's benefit during the summer holiday periods if they satisfy the availability condition in the normal way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭psalbmb


    I'm almost certain that only Mature students can claim Jobseekers during the summer, regardless of JSB entitlements.

    It was changed with affect from June 2011 iirc.

    http://www.welfare.ie/EN/OperationalGuidelines/Pages/jb_jobseekben.aspx


    (e) JB Disqualification - course of study
    The legislation provides that a person shall be disqualified from receipt of Jobseeker's Benefit while attending a course of study (including school/college holiday periods from 28th June 2011), except in such circumstances as may be prescribed. The exceptions to this disqualification are:

    a) persons aged 21 years or over who have been in receipt of JA/JB for at least 6 months and who are participating in approved courses of education, training or development (as per above),
    and
    b) mature students, i.e. persons over 23 years of age on or before 1st January in the year in which the course of study commences.
    Deciding Officers should note that disqualification while attending a course of study is completely separate from the availability condition. As mature students are exempted from this disqualification, they may be entitled to Jobseeker's benefit during the summer holiday periods if they satisfy the availability condition in the normal way.


    ok thanks for that. Is there ANYTHING i can claim? As i am finding it hard to find a job and Need money to live on... or can i claim anything just for the summer even untill college starts back in september. Ive been working since i am 15 years old so surely i should have enough stamps etc, or how does it work? thanks again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,044 ✭✭✭gcgirl


    You can try claiming the tax back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭psalbmb


    gcgirl wrote: »
    You can try claiming the tax back

    i tried that lol, only got 7 euro back :( Any other suggestions are welcome <3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭eastbono


    psalbmb wrote: »
    ok thanks for that. Is there ANYTHING i can claim? As i am finding it hard to find a job and Need money to live on... or can i claim anything just for the summer even untill college starts back in september. Ive been working since i am 15 years old so surely i should have enough stamps etc, or how does it work? thanks again

    In order to claim jsb or jsa you have to be 23 years of age on 1st January prior to starting your course.
    You could go to your community welfare office and see if they would give you any payment.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭aaabbbb


    Is it possible to be on JSA if you are repeating a subject externally ?? Or are repeating internally but only have 2 hours a week ?? (I'm just curious :L )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    They probably wont give you JSA as you need to be out of formal education for a certain length of time before approval, and they ask for proof from the institute you studied at.

    To aaabbbb, you might get it externally, but probably not internally, as you have to be available for work, and from experience anything that isn't sitting at home printing out CVS is considered as you being unavailable for work :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭cee_jay


    ShaShaBear wrote: »

    To aaabbbb, you might get it externally, but probably not internally, as you have to be available for work, and from experience anything that isn't sitting at home printing out CVS is considered as you being unavailable for work :rolleyes:
    That's untrue - as long as you let them know what you are studying and when, you can apply to follow your course on a part time basis. You just need to show it won't affect your availability or looking for work efforts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    I'm only going by what I know from my area. They won't even let me do an hour a week of unpaid work experience because it makes me unavailable for work. Another lady on my course (mature student) was refuses her dole while repeating one subject internally because she was registered as being in formal education and thus unavailable for work.

    OPs SW office might see it differently, but from what Ive experienced so far, being in formal education means you aren't entitled to JSA unless you're getting BTEA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭aaabbbb


    "Another lady on my course (mature student) was refuses her dole while repeating one subject internally because she was registered as being in formal education and thus unavailable for work"

    That's actually a tad bit ridiculus . I mean if you're repeating one subject youre only going to have 3 hours a week max (for most subjects anyway) Which would mean one would be avalible with the exception of of those three hours which is nothing since a normal working person would thave at least that off per week if not much more including the weekend. Silly government :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭psalbmb


    cee_jay wrote: »
    That's untrue - as long as you let them know what you are studying and when, you can apply to follow your course on a part time basis. You just need to show it won't affect your availability or looking for work efforts.


    Ok, I dont really understand what your talking about to be honest!, I am very blonde when it comes to this sort of stuff. so i am going into my final year of college as a full-time student, can i do that course part-Time and collect anything?

    Also ok i am not entitled to anything from the state, as i am a student enrolled, ok but say for example, i became homeless in the morning, then what would happen? would i get everything then like most people? it just annoys me that Ive been working since i am 14 years old, with not 1 break in my entire employment record till now at 23 years of age, and yet i cant claim anything:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    You have to have been out of formal education for a certain length of time before you can apply for certain SW payments, so you couldn't just go part-time and claim.

    Community Welfare Officers usually help you out in exceptional circumstances but if you are in full-time education and lose your home/job, there's very little you will be entitled to without formally leaving education as well.


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