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What do 'employable' people have that others don't have?

  • 13-07-2012 11:21pm
    #1
    pm123
    Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭


    If there are so few jobs out there for teachers, and the available jobs are getting filled, who are these schools employing and what have those people got that all the other unemployed teachers don't have? Are they being employed because of other assets that will add to school activities, do they have postgraduate degrees, what sets these employable people apart?? I don't get it


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  • #2
    RealJohn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭RealJohn


    Jobs.





    Seriously though, in the current climate they are probably fully qualified for the jobs they have/get, maybe with extra qualifications like a masters or even a Ph.D, good references, good experience, something extra-curricular to add etc.

    And probably a bit of luck in there too.
    You knew that though.


  • #3
    smcgiff
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    Relations.

    Someone straight out of college, no post dip experience, still get sorted.


  • #4
    RealJohn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭RealJohn


    smcgiff wrote: »
    Relations.

    Someone straight out of college, no post dip experience, still get sorted.
    May be more of this now but I got a TWT position straight out of the dip knowing nobody in the school or even in the county.


  • #5
    SerialComplaint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,644 ✭✭✭SerialComplaint


    smcgiff wrote: »
    Relations.

    Someone straight out of college, no post dip experience, still get sorted.
    Relations to who? Principal or Board or ????


  • #6
    linguist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭linguist


    I can sense the frustration in your post so the first thing I should say is that the middle of July is not the time to let it get to you. Things are dead just now but they will wake up again in August. Hard and all as it is, this is a time to chill out because nothing is yet lost.

    To try to answer your question, the first thing you must not do is think that there is anything wrong with you. I've been around the block and had to look for employment again this summer unexpectedly. Luckily I got sorted in June but that was one week after I was unsuccessful at another interview. The irony is that I'm convinced I performed better at the first interview than the second. If you looked at my CV, I'm convinced (so much for modesty) that it would scream 'employ me' straight out at you. And I'm sure yours does too. And yet, even with lots of experience, I've been unsuccessful at interviews in recent years.

    To come to the specific things you ask about. Yes, the fact of life is that being able to offer a significant extra-curricular commitment is very important to finding teaching employment in Ireland. The most obvious thing is sport. However we're not all into sport - I have never taken a team in my life. So if you're not going in offering to coach a sport, you need to have researched other activities either related to your subject area or the profile of the school. Every principal wants to see his/her school in the limelight winning things or at least getting favourable coverage.

    Even if you are only working a small number of hours, you should involve yourself in the extra-curricular life of the school. I know you'll want to supplement your income but giving a voluntary commitment to something in the school is an investment in your reference and future employability.

    Another big thing would be experience with the State Examinations Commission. Try to get experience as an examiner. In my field, languages, you'll get lots of bright young things with their three years in an office in Madrid, a year with an MEP in Brussels...you name it. It's all interesting, but a principal wants someone who will get the students through the course and be sound on what examiners are looking for. I know that my extensive experience with the SEC was a clincher in my success finding a job in June.

    A previous employer of mine quite simply said that the reason he chose me was because, of all the candidates, I was the one whose profile overwhelmingly said 'teacher'. There's a lot to be said for being grounded and practical in how you present yourself.


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  • #7
    bdoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 574 ✭✭✭bdoo


    smcgiff wrote: »
    Relations.

    Someone straight out of college, no post dip experience, still get sorted.
    .
    We had a whole thread about this.

    I got my job twt without knowing a sinner in the place. that said i know plenty who had some 'pull'.

    Op. Concentrate on getting the dip and doing a good tp so that you will have a good referee to put on your cv


  • #8
    alabandical
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭alabandical


    Luck.

    And a willingness to take on ANY job.

    I got a call three years ago to do two hours a week and two weeks later I was up to ten hours. Working there ever since.

    There are always going to be people with connections getting jobs in any industry. But most teachers these days that get a job are just those that are the most determined and persistent.


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