Comnpsiracy Theories like...

Daithi 1

Anyone got any sh!t that sticks ?

I know there is Northwoods and stuff, Solid stuff..

But sh!t doesnt usually stick, let alone fly....

Stuff is wearing pretty thin with me... I'm goin to the other side here....

Father Damo

In truth I dont think even the people who start the threads here believe their own rubbish. Particularly Run to Da Hills. I refuse to believe he even believes any of his own nonsense. Honestly, occult symbolism at the Olynpics? Jay Z and Rihanna are satanic freemasons of the illuminati? Obliquely suggesting that Ryanair had a hand in 9/11 because they are one of the few airlines to have gained market share in its aftermath? You couldnt make it up....well, actually, you can

The Madeleine McCann thread is interesting, plausible reading. But that is a crime, hardly a government conspiracy.

Personally I have always believed there was more to the Oslo shooting rampage than meets the eye.

Apart from that, 99% of theories are flimsical garbage.


No trolling BTW. But really- come on

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Anyone got any sh!t that sticks ?

There's plenty of CTs that are genuine, but they are usually a lot more mundane than the stuff discussed here. Although what happened on the night of the bank guarantee in this country is a pretty dramatic one that you don't see discussed much here - who was in the room, who was giving the advice, and who was being protected? Why are there no notes?

Loads of material in that one alone.

chin_grin

Father Damo wrote: »

Particularly Run to Da Hills. I refuse to believe he even believes any of his own nonsense

:eek:

Oh no you didn'!

If a certain CT has me filling in more unplausable gaps than my brain can handle...then I consider it to be complete and utter BS.

Jonny7

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Anyone got any sh!t that sticks ?

I know there is Northwoods and stuff, Solid stuff..

But sh!t doesnt usually stick, let alone fly....

Stuff is wearing pretty thin with me... I'm goin to the other side here....

There are plenty.. Russian journalists disappearing, droves of North Korean officials dying in car crashes, Chinese companies conducting large illegal operations with blood diamonds, UK companies buying PM lunch dates - alass they don't really satisfy the appetite of the more zealous CTer

So especially for you, here's an interesting case..


Undark and the Radium girls

Monty Burnz

Jonny7 wrote: »

So especially for you, here's an interesting case..


Undark and the Radium girls

That's a horrible story. But thanks to those women, quantum leaps were made in employee safety.

fkface

Jonny7 wrote: »

There are plenty.. Russian journalists disappearing, droves of North Korean officials dying in car crashes, Chinese companies conducting large illegal operations with blood diamonds, UK companies buying PM lunch dates - alass they don't really satisfy the appetite of the more zealous CTer

So especially for you, here's an interesting case..


Undark and the Radium girls

I have to laugh at you jonny7, your bias is very obvious here.

The worst thing UK companies have EVER done is buy the PM lunch ...:D

And of course, Chinese control blood diamonds in Africa ... you really believe that, don't you? propaganda clearly works.

studiorat

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Anyone got any sh!t that sticks ?

I know there is Northwoods and stuff, Solid stuff..

Any of those actually happen? Or what has been suggested as a Northwoods Operation?

meanwhile :

Jonny7 wrote: »

, Chinese companies conducting large illegal operations with blood diamonds, [/URL]

Came up on the radar yesterday :
http://www.globalwitness.org/library/action-urgently-needed-stop-budget-financing-mugabe%E2%80%99s-regime

Channel Zero

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Anyone got any sh!t that sticks ?

I know there is Northwoods and stuff, Solid stuff..

But sh!t doesnt usually stick, let alone fly....

Stuff is wearing pretty thin with me... I'm goin to the other side here....

The New World Order?:)
Sure they only had a meeting there at the week-end.

al28283

The only way conspiracies can ever really work is if very few people are involved, the fewer the better. Most of the 9/11 and NWO stuff would need literally thousands of people of pull off and most of them would have some sort of idea what they're a part of.

The smaller stuff I'd be far more likely to consider

enno99

Jonny7 wrote: »

So especially for you, here's an interesting case..


Undark and the Radium girls

That reminded me of something I read a while ago



Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC)

Washington's $8 Billion Shadow

here is a snippet form a 7 page article which is well worth a read

Periodically over the years, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and the U.S. Department of Energy, prodded by executives in the nuclear industry, have sought to ease the rules against re-using "lightly" contaminated radioactive waste. The impetus has been the inexorably growing stockpile of nuclear debris—much of it lethal—that has been accumulating at weapons sites and power plants in America for decades. One way to draw down the stockpile would be to recycle large volumes of discarded nickel, aluminum, copper, steel, and other irradiated metals into usable products. If slightly radioactive metal were combined with other metals, the resulting material could be made into all kinds of consumer items—knives and forks, baby strollers, chairs, rings, eyeglass frames, bicycles, reclining rockers, earrings, frying pans. It also could be used in construction.

Lest any of this sound improbable, in the 1980s radioactive table legs began turning up in the United States everywhere from restaurants to nursing homes. A radioactive gold ring cost a Pennsylvania man his arm.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/03/spyagency200703

Brown Bomber

Daithi,

Didn't Libya turn out more or less exactly as you said it would? And exactly the opposite of what people like Jonny7 were saying (and probably still cling to...)? This is despite the mountain of NATO propoganda and outright lies that the likes of the BBC, CNN, Al Jazeera etc were pumping out on a daily basis - Gadaffi's viagra-rape missions etc.

All you have to do is compare this propoganda and deception to the relative scarcity of media coverage the actual atrocities occuring today in the NATO created hellhole

Jonny7

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Daithi,
Didn't Libya turn out more or less exactly as you said it would? And exactly the opposite of what people like Jonny7 were saying (and probably still cling to...)?

What did Daithi "predict" and what did I apparently "predict"?

This is despite the mountain of NATO propoganda and outright lies that the likes of the BBC, CNN, Al Jazeera etc were pumping out on a daily basis - Gadaffi's viagra-rape missions etc.

Nah this is just a bitter exxageration

From any conflict there were of course stories perpetuated and some propaganda. Those who badly wanted "the West" to fail turned it into a personal crusade to scrape together as many of these discrepancies possible and construct their own personal case to malign "the West".

It was generally a world response, with most countries supporting the intervention, including the entire Arab league, Russia, China, etc.

The world media reporting, as a whole, fairly reflected the situation.

All you have to do is compare this propoganda and deception to the relative scarcity of media coverage the actual atrocities occuring today in the NATO created hellhole is receiving.

Well this NATO created hellhole just had an election, looks like the securlarists are doing well and my friend is freely strolling around Tripoli. I wouldn't say the country is perfect, far from it, but seems to be roughly going in the right direction.

Again, this appears to be a personal crusade for yourself to prove the "evilness" of selective targets, e.g. NATO/the West.

Brown Bomber

Jonny7 wrote: »

The world media reporting, as a whole, fairly reflected the situation.

Thanks for the laugh.

Jonny7 wrote: »

Well this NATO created hellhole just had an election, looks like the securlarists are doing well and my friend is freely strolling around Tripoli. I wouldn't say the country is perfect, far from it, but seems to be roughly going in the right direction.

Wow! and election!!! That changes everything.

From a recent Amnesty report:

4 July 2012


Libya: Militia stranglehold corrosive for rule of law

Libya risks repeating the very violations that led to the “17 February revolution” unless the winners of elections scheduled for this week make the establishment of the rule of law and respect for human rights their top priority, Amnesty International said today in a new report.
In Libya: rule of law or rule of militias? the organization says that nearly a year after Tripoli fell to the revolutionary fighters ( thuwwar ), ongoing violations – including arbitrary arrests and detention, torture including to death, impunity for unlawful killings and forcible displacement – are casting a shadow over the country’s first national elections since the fall of al-Gaddafi’s regime.

During a visit to Libya in May and June, Amnesty International found that hundreds of armed militias continue to act above the law, many refusing to disarm or join the national army or police force. The Ministry of Interior told the organization that it has been able to dismantle four militias in Tripoli, a tiny proportion of the total number.

“It is deeply depressing that after so many months, the authorities have failed so comprehensively to break the stranglehold of the militias on Libyan security, with dramatic consequences for the people that bear the brunt of their actions,” said Hassiba Hadj Sahraoui, Amnesty International’s Middle East and North Africa Deputy Director.

“Calls for an end to repression and injustice were what led to the ‘17 February revolution’ in the first place. Without immediate action to stop abuses and lawlessness, there is a very real danger Libya could end up reproducing and entrenching the same patterns of violations we have seen over the past four decades”.

Abuse of detainees and deaths in custody
Militias continue to arrest people and hold them in secret and unofficial detention facilities. Despite some progress in bringing detention under central control, it is estimated that 4,000 remain in centres outside the reach of the central authorities. Some have been held without charge for a year.

Abuse of detainees, particularly those recently arrested, continues. An Amnesty International fact-finding team found evidence of recent beatings and other abuse - in some cases amounting to torture - in 12 of the 15 detention centres where it was able to interview detainees in private during its most recent visit.

Common methods of torture reported to the organization include suspension in contorted positions and prolonged beatings with various objects including metal bars and chains, electric cables, wooden sticks, plastic hoses, water pipes, and rifle-butts; and electric shocks.

Amnesty International has detailed information on at least 20 cases of death in custody as a result of torture by militias since late August 2011.

Armed clashes and forced displacement
Clashes between armed militias recklessly using machine guns, rocket propelled grenades (RPGs) and other weapons in residential areas have continued to plague Libya, leading to deaths and injuries among bystanders and others not involved in fighting.

The southern city of Kufra, home to a Tabu minority, has seen three bouts of clashes between February and June. Amnesty International said that such clashes, which typically involve arbitrary detention and torture on all sides, further entrench divisions along regional, tribal and ethnic lines.

Amnesty International also strongly criticised the authorities for failing to resolve the situation of entire communities forcibly displaced during last year’s conflict and still unable to return their homes which were looted and burned by armed militias. The entire population of the city of Tawargha, estimated at 30,000, continues to be prevented from going home.

Foreign nationals at risk
The report finds that Sub-Saharan Africans in Libya - particularly undocumented migrants - continue to suffer arbitrary arrest, indefinite detention, beatings in some cases amounting to torture, and exploitation in the hands of armed militias. Those rounding up foreign nationals generally make no distinction between migrants and those fleeing war and persecution in their countries.

Amnesty International said that the plight of migrants in Libya is compounded by the authorities’ failure to tackle prevailing racism and xenophobia against dark-skin Libyans and Sub-Saharan African nationals.

Lack of justice for victims
The Libyan authorities continue to downplay the scale and gravity of patterns of human rights abuses by militias, maintaining that these are individual actions which need to be seen within the context of abuses suffered under al-Gaddafi’s rule.

In May the transitional authorities adopted legislation which grants immunity from prosecution to thuwwar (revolutionaries) for military and civilian acts committed with the “purpose of rendering successful or protecting the 17 February Revolution.”
In a June meeting with Amnesty International, Libya’s General Prosecutor was unable to provide any details of thuwwar being brought to justice for torturing detainees or committing other human rights abuses.

31-year Hasna Shaeeb - accused of being an al-Gaddafi loyalist - was detained for three days in October last year, given electric shocks, beaten and whipped until she lost consciousness and had urine poured over her. The guards threatened to rape her mother if she did not confess.

Hasna was released without charge three days later and has since submitted complaints through a range of channels. She was examined by a forensic pathologist, whose report corroborated her testimony.

No meaningful action appears to have been taken to investigate her complaint. Instead she has received a string of anonymous threatening phones calls, as well as a call in June from the person who arrested her. In March, her flat was fired on by unknown attackers in the middle of the night.

Calls on Libyan authorities post-elections
Amnesty International said that following the election, as a first step to turn the page, it was looking to the General National Congress and the government it appoints to publicly admit the scale and gravity of human rights abuses, unequivocally condemn them, and send a message that such violations would no longer be tolerated.

“To honour the sacrifices and suffering of Libyans, those who take on the responsibility of governing the new Libya have to make clear that they intend to bring to justice and hold accountable those who have committed human rights abuses – whatever their rank or affiliation,” said Hassiba Hadj Sahraoui.

"roughly going in the right direction" or "hellhole"? Hmmmmm....

Of course it could be Amnesty International's "personal crusade" :rolleyes:

Daithi 1

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Daithi,

Didn't Libya turn out more or less exactly as you said it would? And exactly the opposite of what people like Jonny7 were saying (and probably still cling to...)? This is despite the mountain of NATO propoganda and outright lies that the likes of the BBC, CNN, Al Jazeera etc were pumping out on a daily basis - Gadaffi's viagra-rape missions etc.

All you have to do is compare this propoganda and deception to the relative scarcity of media coverage the actual atrocities occuring today in the NATO created hellhole

Thanks BB.

I don't actually remember starting this thread, it was rather late at night .
I suppose I was thinking about the "truth movement", which I got involved in a couple of years ago through facebook and no longer play any part in other that to debunk their beliefs. Imo 95% of the stuff they come up with is bullsh!t and boy do they not wanna hear it... Over the past week alone I have been called many names including paid shill, disinformationist, turn coat etc etc list goes on.. simply for presenting evidence...

One guy had a picture of the pentagon up along with the caption..

"The official story that a plane hit the pentagon is crazy, laughable, embarrassing"

I presented evidence of testimony from countless eyewitnesses who seen the plane hit and pictures of landing gear, jet engine and other evidences. Well I can tell you, the thread went silent very quickly, apart from the odd brief rant. And I don't believe they even looked at the evidence I presented and if they did, they quickly blocked it out of mind.

I do believe 911 was an inside job, but at one time I also believed that there was no plane that hit the pentagon either, so I wouldn't bet my life on it tbh.

So while I was right about Libya, I've probably been wrong about 95% of the other theories I have put forward here...

al28283

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Thanks BB.

I don't actually remember starting this thread, it was rather late at night .
I suppose I was thinking about the "truth movement", which I got involved in a couple of years ago through facebook and no longer play any part in other that to debunk their beliefs. Imo 95% of the stuff they come up with is bullsh!t and boy do they not wanna hear it... Over the past week alone I have been called many names including paid shill, disinformationist, turn coat etc etc list goes on.. simply for presenting evidence...

One guy had a picture of the pentagon up along with the caption..


I presented evidence of testimony from countless eyewitnesses who seen the plane hit and pictures of landing gear, jet engine and other evidences. Well I can tell you, the thread went silent very quickly, apart from the odd brief rant. And I don't believe they even looked at the evidence I presented and if they did, they quickly blocked it out of mind.

I do believe 911 was an inside job, but at one time I also believed that there was no plane that hit the pentagon either, so I wouldn't bet my life on it tbh.

So while I was right about Libya, I've probably been wrong about 95% of the other theories I have put forward here...

It is very good, Daithi, to hear that you are not blindly following any wild conspiracy story. Looking at the evidence presented and making a decision based on logic is something this forum often lacks. There is a lot of bull**** claims and questionable links presented here and the posters think it is unquestionabley true.

You have restored my faith in this forum, for now. That's not to say I won't disagree with you from time to time. But what is the point of a forum if there's no disagreement?

It's also amazingly refreshingy to hear you say you might have been wrong in some cases.I wonder what will happen after the Olympics this year? Will the people who have predicted all sorts of horror, false flags and alien sightings admit they were wrong? Or will the people who dismissed all their claims, me included, admit to the same? Or will the thread go silent?

On another note, I'm very interested in people who make wild claims about a particular future event or date. The london olymoics is the next biggie I think. I'm not trying to put you down in any way here, but as you said 95% of your claims might have been wrong. Does this inform your future opinions on similiar conspiraciers? Are you less likely to believe future claims?

Jonny7

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Wow! and election!!! That changes everything.

From a recent Amnesty report:

Its like looking at the casualties only inflicted by the French resistance without context. I am sure they committed more than a few atrocities. Likewise, in Libya, after 6 months of very bitter conflict, practically bordering on civil war - retribution and revenge was expected from more quarters. Four decades of injustice and single leader rule generates a lot of anger. Context.

The country is now in a fragile state, with certain tribes vying for local and regional power, however the elections have passed off fairly peacefully and the country appears to be transitioning to something akin to democracy - generally a key step in any country's progress

Channel Zero

That Amnesty report is shocking BB. Not front page news any more though. Got to admit i haven't been keeping up with things there recently.

Jonny7

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Of course it could be Amnesty International's "personal crusade" :rolleyes:

Amnesty does not have a personal crusade - here is a full report, including both sides
http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0913/libyaamnesty.pdf

I suggest you read to get the full context of what happened and why. If you are determined to do otherwise then good luck.

Brown Bomber

al28283 wrote: »

Will the people who have predicted all sorts of horror, false flags and alien sightings admit they were wrong?

Which people???

Brown Bomber

Channel Zero wrote: »

That Amnesty report is shocking BB. Not front page news any more though. Got to admit i haven't been keeping up with things there recently.

Yeah it's Mad Max land there with NATO's Al Qaeda puppets running amock. It was inevitable, which is the sad thing. NATO has a lot of blood on it's hands.

Libya is mostly Sunni whereas Syria is more diverse which will lead to even greater sectarian bloodshed yet the same clowns are feeding us with the same lies frothing at the mouth to turn Syria into another Libya.

At times I think they are sociopaths that just enjoy the suffering, murder and bloodshed of ohers.

Are you aware of "politcal ponerology"?

Brown Bomber

Jonny7 wrote: »

Amnesty does not have a personal crusade - here is a full report, including both sides
http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0913/libyaamnesty.pdf

I suggest you read to get the full context of what happened and why. If you are determined to do otherwise then good luck.

Please don't make assumptions about me. I have read it as a matter of fact. The report I linked to is far more recent. Last year vs this week. Obviously the report that I linked to, and the atrocities, ethnic cleansing, torture and murder contained within -- which you get all apologetical over -- are far more relevant to the present state in Libya.

Brown Bomber

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Thanks BB.

I don't actually remember starting this thread, it was rather late at night .
I suppose I was thinking about the "truth movement", which I got involved in a couple of years ago through facebook and no longer play any part in other that to debunk their beliefs. Imo 95% of the stuff they come up with is bullsh!t and boy do they not wanna hear it... Over the past week alone I have been called many names including paid shill, disinformationist, turn coat etc etc list goes on.. simply for presenting evidence...

One guy had a picture of the pentagon up along with the caption..


I presented evidence of testimony from countless eyewitnesses who seen the plane hit and pictures of landing gear, jet engine and other evidences. Well I can tell you, the thread went silent very quickly, apart from the odd brief rant. And I don't believe they even looked at the evidence I presented and if they did, they quickly blocked it out of mind.

I do believe 911 was an inside job, but at one time I also believed that there was no plane that hit the pentagon either, so I wouldn't bet my life on it tbh.

So while I was right about Libya, I've probably been wrong about 95% of the other theories I have put forward here...

It's good to self-doubt. Otherwise you become like a religious fundamentalist / militant atheist / cynical "skeptic".

This might settle your mind on the Pentagon issue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBunIKEWSZQ

Jonny7

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Please don't make assumptions about me. I have read it as a matter of fact. The report I linked to is far more recent. Last year vs this week. Obviously the report that I linked to, and the atrocities, ethnic cleansing, torture and murder contained within -- which you get all apologetical over -- are far more relevant to the present state in Libya.

Its an observation, not an assumption. You brought it up, don't have a go at me if I reply.

And exactly the opposite of what people like Jonny7 were saying (and probably still cling to...)?

Uh huh

The opposite of European troops are beheading Libyan civilians? CIA assassination plots in the Rixos? Fake Tripoli sets? dodgy journalists..

I'm pretty sure a few Zionist theories thrown in there too.

Brown Bomber

Jonny7 wrote: »

Its an observation, not an assumption. You brought it up, don't have a go at me if I reply.

No. You assumed that I haven't read the report you linked to when I had. It was an assumption by you and a false assumption at that

I'm sorry if I give the impression that I haven't reached your level of enlightenment where one can look the other way when innocent people are tortured and murdered by terrorists armed by foriegners.

I'm sorry if I can't bask in the pompous joy of "going in the right direction" because some people can vote in a "democratic" election where one side is excluded from standing.

What worth is a vote to Hasna Shaeeb?

31-year Hasna Shaeeb - accused of being an al-Gaddafi loyalist - was detained for three days in October last year, given electric shocks, beaten and whipped until she lost consciousness and had urine poured over her. The guards threatened to rape her mother if she did not confess.

Will it erase her scars from being whipped? Will it erase her trauma?

Jonny7

Brown Bomber wrote: »

No. You assumed that I haven't read the report you linked to when I had. It was an assumption by you and a false assumption at that

Not sure if sour grapes .. or just really likes the word "assume".

I'm sorry if I give the impression that I haven't reached your level of enlightenment where one can look the other way when innocent people are tortured and murdered by terrorists armed by foriegners.

You mean in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia, the protesters were terrorists?.. or only in Libya?

As I've said before I'm not into "my enemy's enemy is my friend", its not a football game.. although it is to some who pursue an agenda of petty point-scoring against "Zionism" or "Western media" or whatever their cause-du-jour is. Sure, why not, drag it up in the conspiracy theory forums, sure to get some support here

I'm sorry if I can't bask in the pompous joy of "going in the right direction" because some people can vote in a "democratic" election where one side is excluded from standing.

I commiserate that Gadaffi wasn't allow cleanse the country. How are the elections going in Syria?

What worth is a vote to Hasna Shaeeb?

Will it erase her scars from being whipped? Will it erase her trauma?

Your selective views in action yet again. Anyone who dies as the result, directly or indirectly, of an old-fashioned kingship or dictatorship in this day and age is a tragedy. If, in 5 or 10 or 25 years the country is a somewhat functioning democracy, with free elections, people not being "disappeared" in the night, political opposition allowed to function - you know, the **** we take for granted - then maybe these tragic deaths might not be utterly pointless.

Also, I should ask, what's the conspiracy theory here?

Channel Zero

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Yeah it's Mad Max land there with NATO's Al Qaeda puppets running amock. It was inevitable, which is the sad thing. NATO has a lot of blood on it's hands.

Libya is mostly Sunni whereas Syria is more diverse which will lead to even greater sectarian bloodshed yet the same clowns are feeding us with the same lies frothing at the mouth to turn Syria into another Libya.

At times I think they are sociopaths that just enjoy the suffering, murder and bloodshed of ohers.

Appreciate the info. Perhaps a new Libya thread is in order at some stage.

Are you aware of "politcal ponerology"?

I wasn't aware of that term no, but after a quick wiki, it's sort of a familiar concept..

mcmoustache

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Anyone got any sh!t that sticks ?

I know there is Northwoods and stuff, Solid stuff..

But sh!t doesnt usually stick, let alone fly....

Stuff is wearing pretty thin with me... I'm goin to the other side here....

I lurk here mainly but I've noticed over the years that some stuff is reasonably well-researched/documented but mundane (Brown-Bomber's posts on Israel's state apparatus, for example) and other stuff is over-the top unbelievable nonsense involving the occult or lizards.

The fact is that the stuff that sticks isn't that sensational. Real conspiracies don't involve lizards and Christianity and when they don't, it doesn't seem to get people excited.

I started a thread some time ago about Israel's attack on the USS Liberty. This was an attack by Israel on a US naval vessel. It had everything that a good conspiracy should have but it had no lizards. I think the thread had about 5 posts.

I think the supernatural stuff gets threads going but not much about the actual conspiracy gets discussed. It's unfortunate.

hooradiation

mcmoustache wrote: »

I lurk here mainly but I've noticed over the years that some stuff is reasonably well-researched/documented but mundane (Brown-Bomber's posts on Israel's state apparatus, for example) and other stuff is over-the top unbelievable nonsense involving the occult or lizards.

The fact is that the stuff that sticks isn't that sensational. Real conspiracies don't involve lizards and Christianity and when they don't, it doesn't seem to get people excited.

I started a thread some time ago about Israel's attack on the USS Liberty. This was an attack by Israel on a US naval vessel. It had everything that a good conspiracy should have but it had no lizards. I think the thread had about 5 posts.

I think the supernatural stuff gets threads going but not much about the actual conspiracy gets discussed. It's unfortunate.

Amazingly flights of fancy just appeal to people more than the mundane (but awful).
Same reason why documentaries don't do well at the box office, comparatively speaking.

DuPLeX

chin_grin wrote: »

:eek:



If a certain CT has me filling in more unplausable gaps than my brain can handle...then I consider it to be complete and utter BS.

I can think of a few "historical facts" that are just like that and yet no-one questions them at all (at least publicly ) and anyone who does is at best a CT ist :pac:

Border-Rat

Jonny7 wrote: »

There are plenty.. Russian journalists disappearing, droves of North Korean officials dying in car crashes, Chinese companies conducting large illegal operations with blood diamonds, UK companies buying PM lunch dates - alass they don't really satisfy the appetite of the more zealous CTer

So especially for you, here's an interesting case..


Undark and the Radium girls

Ah so misdeeds of strategical opponents of Anglo-America are fair game when it comes to 'conspiracy theories'. Catch Anglo-American/Zionist plutocrats up to no good, however, and its being over zealous and nutty.

Laughable.

studiorat

I always thought this one had legs....

Gadaffi and the freemasons working in cahoots to de-legitimize palestinian aid workers by attacking Israel.

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Anyone else notice the illuminati like symbol of the charity?

Gadaffi is a freemason




Gadaffi pushed for a "new order" in Africa - "The United States of Africa".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7864604.stm

Not only this. Saif Gadaffi, the head of the charitable organisation is friendly with the Arch-freemason family the Rothschilds and their agent David Mandelson.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8205435.stm


http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/nov/25/peter-mandelson-gaddafi-shooting-party


Wandelson manor, a Rothschild mansion where both Saif Gaddafi and Peter Mandelson attended a shooting party.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/aug/17/mandelson-gaddafi-lockerbie-corfu


Mandelson & Rothschild

Saif Gadaffi also has an Israeli girlfriend
http://www.thejc.com/blogpost/gaddafis-jewish-daughter-law-well-almost


So to the CT. I suspect that this Libyan ship will be carrying arms in its cargo, will have convicted terrorists as passengers. They may even open fire on unarmed Israeli interceptors all to deligitimise the real aid workers.

Jonny7

Border-Rat wrote: »

Ah so misdeeds of strategical opponents of Anglo-America are fair game when it comes to 'conspiracy theories'. Catch Anglo-American/Zionist plutocrats up to no good, however, and its being over zealous and nutty.

Laughable.

I just mentioned the UK and then linked a US corporate conspiracy?

The fact that's how you viewed my post is very telling. Then are those (admittedly very few) who genuinely believe "evil" conspiracy theories do not originate anywhere else but a select few countries; now that's laughable