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€50,000 - What to do with it?

  • 10-07-2012 12:07pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭


    Hi

    I have about 50k that I'd like to put in some sort of savings acc or similar. Obviously I'd like a nice interest rate. Have no clue regarding savings acc's or where the best deal lies.

    Also does DIRT mean you're left with nothing after your savings term is up?

    Any advice welcome.

    Cheers


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 87 ✭✭bear_hunter


    LaVail wrote: »
    Hi

    I have about 50k that I'd like to put in some sort of savings acc or similar. Obviously I'd like a nice interest rate. Have no clue regarding savings acc's or where the best deal lies.

    Also does DIRT mean you're left with nothing after your savings term is up?

    Any advice welcome.

    Cheers


    DIRT is a form of tax which the goverment takes at source on your savings

    if you have 50 k in a 12 month fixed savings account at 3% , your NET rate is a little over 2% as the rate of DIRT is presently 30%

    would you consider putting the money in a high dividend paying stock

    companies like mc donalds , microsoft , tesco , vodafone , all pay in exces of 3% , the difference between those and banks is your money can grow , vodafone pays 5% and is a very stable stock , telecoms dont tend to suffer nearly as much during volatile markets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭LaVail


    Thanks for the reply bear

    To be honest I know nothing about the stock market so that's why I was inclined to stay away from it. I'm afraid of losing the money I invest.

    I suppose I should do a little research into it before making a decision.

    I don't know how to buy stocks or when to buy either so I will do a little research in that department also.

    Thanks for your help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭FernandoTorres


    I wouldn't ever advise putting all your money in one stock. Yes as Bear Hunter says you can earn a nice dividend and the stock value also has the potential to go up, however it could also plummet. All those companies are seen as stable yes but so were the banks a few years ago. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.

    If you don't know anything about the stock market, put it in a savings account. Shop around and get the best rate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭LaVail


    I wouldn't ever advise putting all your money in one stock. Yes as Bear Hunter says you can earn a nice dividend and the stock value also has the potential to go up, however it could also plummet. All those companies are seen as stable yes but so were the banks a few years ago. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.

    If you don't know anything about the stock market, put it in a savings account. Shop around and get the best rate.

    Yes, even if I was going to put money in stocks the amount wouldn't be anything near 50k and seeing as though I know nothing about them I would only be willing to gamble a few thousand if I was going ahead with it.

    I see permanent TSB offer 5 Year Fixed Access 3.54% AER (Gross term 19.0% ) on a 50k lump sum deposit which would return 9.5k before Tax. That seems pretty good to me but should I break up the 50k and try a few different things instead?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭turbobaby


    Don't put all your eggs in one basket.

    If you don't know anything about the stock market, put it in a savings account. Shop around and get the best rate.

    ... but putting the full 50k into a euro savings account is putting all his eggs into one basket.

    I would agree that you should have the majority of your savings on deposit, while you learn more about savings, investments, politics etc.

    €50k is a lot of money and I am sure you have gone through a lot of hard work to put it away. Investing some time in reading investment books would certainly be justifiable if you want to protect your purchasing power.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    LaVail wrote: »
    Hi

    I have about 50k that I'd like to put in some sort of savings acc or similar. Obviously I'd like a nice interest rate. Have no clue regarding savings acc's or where the best deal lies.

    Also does DIRT mean you're left with nothing after your savings term is up?

    Any advice welcome.

    Cheers

    Hello Sir,

    I own a bank in Nigeria, we have huge amounts of our money invested in the Nigerian Oil fields. If you send your money to me by Western Union, I will promise you a return of 100% per year, and no silly DIRT tax.

    BTW the above is a joke (just in case).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,781 ✭✭✭clappyhappy


    Have you looked at the an post national solidarity savings, 50% (less dirt) return after 10 years. Money can be accessed within 2 weeks. You get a lesser return after 5 years onwards. I am putting all kids money into it, will come in handy for college. Check it out anyway, good luck :-)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 87 ✭✭bear_hunter


    I wouldn't ever advise putting all your money in one stock. Yes as Bear Hunter says you can earn a nice dividend and the stock value also has the potential to go up, however it could also plummet. All those companies are seen as stable yes but so were the banks a few years ago. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.

    If you don't know anything about the stock market, put it in a savings account. Shop around and get the best rate.


    you cant compare utilitys and telecoms to a financial stock , vodafone has a very narrow range , its a boring stock but pays a good dividend

    if it was me and i had a spare 50 k to put away for five years , id put 10 k in the following

    apple = the richest company in the world in terms of cash balance and debt level , it has no debt

    paddy power = best run company in ireland , people gamble when their rich or poor , expansion ongoing

    glanbia = the agri business sector is looking extremley bright going forward , kerry is another option

    tesco = because its cheap at the moment and is not going to go anywhere , also pays a very good div

    spy = an etf which tracks the top 500 american companies


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 87 ✭✭bear_hunter


    Hello Sir,

    I own a bank in Nigeria, we have huge amounts of our money invested in the Nigerian Oil fields. If you send your money to me by Western Union, I will promise you a return of 100% per year, and no silly DIRT tax.

    BTW the above is a joke (just in case).

    never heard that gag before, did you write it yourself , classic :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭EMPM


    What would you do with 50k?

    First of all i would not ask for financial advise on the internet. This is a very general question that nobody can answer without knowing anything about you. For example: (obviously do not answer any of this on here)

    What are you current financial commitments?
    Are you employed?
    Do you have any debts?
    What is your age?
    Are you married?
    Does your wife work?
    Do you have any children?
    Any other investments?

    Other things that you will need to consider:

    What is your attitude to risk? i.e. risk averse or high risk
    What is your investment horison? 1 year or 5+ years

    One other thing, you will pay Income tax on your dividends, so a div yield of 5% may seem attractive on the face of it, but in reality its only worth half that to you. You also have the hassle of making an annual return.

    EMPM


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭LaVail


    EMPM wrote: »
    What would you do with 50k?

    First of all i would not ask for financial advise on the internet. This is a very general question that nobody can answer without knowing anything about you. For example: (obviously do not answer any of this on here)

    What are you current financial commitments?
    Are you employed?
    Do you have any debts?
    What is your age?
    Are you married?
    Does your wife work?
    Do you have any children?
    Any other investments?

    Other things that you will need to consider:

    What is your attitude to risk? i.e. risk averse or high risk
    What is your investment horison? 1 year or 5+ years

    One other thing, you will pay Income tax on your dividends, so a div yield of 5% may seem attractive on the face of it, but in reality its only worth half that to you. You also have the hassle of making an annual return.

    EMPM

    Yes I understand it's a very general question but really all I'm looking for is some safe suggestions.

    I am currently debt free - No mortgage - No loans - Single - unemployed atm - No children - no other investments.

    I am looking for something which involves little to no risk but I am willing to put say €2-4k in something of medium risk just to see how it goes.

    I have no issue with putting my money aside for say the nest 5 years so that's why something long term with fairly good returns would suit be better.

    Thanks for your advice.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 87 ✭✭bear_hunter


    LaVail wrote: »
    Yes I understand it's a very general question but really all I'm looking for is some safe suggestions.

    I am currently debt free - No mortgage - No loans - Single - unemployed atm - No children - no other investments.

    I am looking for something which involves little to no risk but I am willing to put say €2-4k in something of medium risk just to see how it goes.

    I have no issue with putting my money aside for say the nest 5 years so that's why something long term with fairly good returns would suit be better.

    Thanks for your advice.


    no such thing as no risk , we live in the eurozone so even cash inside a box buried in the garden is not 100%

    five years is a fairly short time for an investment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭Liam D Ferguson


    LaVail wrote: »
    Yes I understand it's a very general question but really all I'm looking for is some safe suggestions.

    I am currently debt free - No mortgage - No loans - Single - unemployed atm - No children - no other investments.

    I am looking for something which involves little to no risk but I am willing to put say €2-4k in something of medium risk just to see how it goes.

    I have no issue with putting my money aside for say the nest 5 years so that's why something long term with fairly good returns would suit be better.

    Thanks for your advice.

    For the deposit part, there's a good Best Buys section over on Askaboutmoney.com here.


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