Mod note #271 read before posting

mitosis

A nice implementation would be for a link to the mod note to be inserted in the first post, or perhaps a post zero could be added with the note in it.

Dades

Probably better off popping this idea in Site Development.

Orion

It's not site development. A mod can edit the op and insert the link to the mod warning. It would certainly make it easier than searching for it down the thread.

alwaysadub

Its also useless when using m.boards as it doesn't give post numbers.
It's not that hard to link it in the 1st post. Would make things a lot easier

MugMugs

Or just stick it into the OP and note it as the first post.

Kamjana

Mod note #873 etc is just stupid,if you want people to read it, put it in the first post,its not that hard is it?

TeddyTedson

They should just pm everyone

El Weirdo

TeddyTedson wrote: »

They should just pm everyone

I have removed my thanks because I have a sneaking suspicion that you might not be joking.

TeddyTedson

El Weirdo wrote: »

I have removed my thanks because I have a sneaking suspicion that you might not be joking.

Of course I'm joking. I'm just one big joke...wait, no.

Nody

El Weirdo wrote: »

I have removed my thanks because I have a sneaking suspicion that you might not be joking.

Actually I'd love that functionality; I can already see the "reply all" mass PMs going into a PM thunderstorm with in 15 min :pac:.

mitosis

Orion wrote: »

It's not site development. A mod can edit the op and insert the link to the mod warning. It would certainly make it easier than searching for it down the thread.

Maybe it should be feedforward? In any case it makes sense to me that it makes no sense to bury a notification.

Cardinal Richelieu

Orion wrote: »

It's not site development. A mod can edit the op and insert the link to the mod warning. It would certainly make it easier than searching for it down the thread.

A recent example of OP point.

History & Heritage Mod Warning Post 80
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056707287

mitosis

Here's another

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056718445

Mod note #53

Super-Rush

Soccer forum is the worst for this.

It would make everyone's life so much easier to stick the warning in the first post, including the mods.

Sully

Are we allowed edit posts tho? Thought something came up ages ago that mods were advised to only edit posts unless absolutely required because to prevent libel becoming a possible issue?

Sparks

I want an option that forces users to read and comprehend mod notes before posting.

Could you get on that right away lads? And when you're done, could you add the function that forces users to think before they type, and to not post stupid things, and the one that makes us all just, you know, get along?

As was pointed out to me when I first became a mod, if anyone deletes their post before the mod note, the post number which contains the note also changes!

Mr Magnolia

I'd also recommend the use of moderator warnings in bolded text within quote tags in the original post, it's much easier than a warning in a random post somewhere down the thread. With the quote tags used it's easy for posters to differentiate between the warning and the original post.

Sully wrote: »

Are we allowed edit posts tho? Thought something came up ages ago that mods were advised to only edit posts unless absolutely required because to prevent libel becoming a possible issue?

I doubt it's a problem now that there's tractability with edits.

Elmidena

Sully wrote: »

Are we allowed edit posts tho? Thought something came up ages ago that mods were advised to only edit posts unless absolutely required because to prevent libel becoming a possible issue?

How is it editing as such if you're just enclosing something like MODNOTE: READ THIS (either a link or pasted message there) either above or below the original post? You aren't putting words into anybody's mouth and as you aren't editing their wording how can you be libellous? Just my 2c.


Although I really like when mod warnings are on the first page instead of getting interested in a topic then wondering where that warning is before I reply etc, it would only work for those that bother reading the OP anyway. A lot of people dive into threads just to offload their grievances and don't care what the lay of the land has been so to speak. Is there any way you could get an aggressive sort of popup which you click to go to the mod warning? Or something that redirects you to the mods post but at the bottom has a link to take you back to where you were a moment ago, a bit like a sale going through on paypal then returned to the receipt page on the original website... if that makes sense...

Scioch

What about utilising the way polls are done ? Do them the same way as a poll but only displaying the warning and only a Mod can activate it. Shows up on top of every page.

Hell even just name the poll mod warning and set the option to Yes sir/No sir. Then ban all the no sirs from the thread.

Sulla Felix

LordSmeg wrote: »

What about utilising the way polls are done ? Do them the same way as a poll but only displaying the warning and only a Mod can activate it. Shows up on top of every page.

Hell even just name the poll mod warning and set the option to Yes sir/No sir. Then ban all the no sirs from the thread.

That'd be amusing as all hell. Another way would be thread-specific announces at the top of the page. That'd be effort though for the coders specifically and perm. for the mods could get messy.
Some of the mods in AH and a couple other forums edit the first post and it does seem to work well.

dr.bollocko

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=71101051

Preaching to the choir.

mitosis

Last post on that is over a year old, doc. Why are you trying to resurrect a zombie thread?

You have the ear of the biggie now, you old CMod you, can't you get something implemented? Surely it's only a matter of handing down an edict that all mod notes be put where they can be easily found.

Your OP was way better than mine, though...........

pablomakaveli

dr.bollocko wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=71101051

Preaching to the choir.

I remember that thread. It actually seemed to stop afterwards with a lot of warnings going in the first post but the "mod warning post 456" has been creeping back in a lot lately for some reason.

Gary ITR

I for one wouldn't be arsed chasing back to read mod notes, I do about 75% of my browsing on my phone now and I'm sure a lot of others have gone the same way, so it's a pain in the hoop. If it's a heated thread the mod note thing would just stop me posting

Boards.ie: Neil

Is the best outcome here for people not to break the first rule of boards.ie?

Don't be a dick!

:pac:

mitosis

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056724475

Here's a beaut! Post 627!

If you want to refer the DBAD rule, why the need for warnings in thread at all?

P. Breathnach

mitosis wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056724475

Here's a beaut! Post 627!...

I looked. Post #627 is not a Mod Warning.

Boards.ie: Neil

mitosis wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056724475

Here's a beaut! Post 627!

If you want to refer the DBAD rule, why the need for warnings in thread at all?

it was quite obvious i was hinting at the ideal world, where unicorns exists and dogs poop rainbows.

P. Breathnach wrote: »

I looked. Post #627 is not a Mod Warning.

#626 is though, guessing it's a typo by the mod that edited the title.

dr.bollocko

It's pitchforks time.

28064212

Boards.ie: Neil wrote: »

#626 is though, guessing it's a typo by the mod that edited the title.

Or one of the previous 626 posts was deleted by a mod.

mitosis

mitosis wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056724475

Here's a beaut! Post 627!

Deleted User wrote: »

As was pointed out to me when I first became a mod, if anyone deletes their post before the mod note, the post number which contains the note also changes!

mitosis

Ah, now, lads

Mod notes #205 AND #628.



http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056039293

Is there really no motivation to fix this?

Insect Overlord

mitosis wrote: »

Is there really no motivation to fix this?

Is it really that big a deal?

P. Breathnach

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Is it really that big a deal?

Yes.

mitosis

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Is it really that big a deal?

Probably not in the grand scheme of things, but likewise I ask, is it really that big a deal to fix?

Overlord, where do you put you Mod notes?

Mr Magnolia

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Is it really that big a deal?

An interesting point. As a user for me personally; no. I 'get' the forums I frequent and the whole 'don't be a dick' rule. I don't have to be pulled up or reprimanded and explained to about how the whole site works. I went looking for one of these 'Moderator warning post #224' once and after 2 page clicks I was distracted by something shiny and forgot what I was looking for.

Then there's the newbs that may appreciate a wee bit of direction, especially when a moderator has gone out of their way to give it. Burying this direction obscurely in the middle of a thread never made any sense to me, never mind the newbs, it's a bit of a disservice as far as I'm concerned.

Insect Overlord

mitosis wrote: »

Probably not in the grand scheme of things, but likewise I ask, is it really that big a deal to fix?

Overlord, where do you put you Mod notes?

I'm lucky enough modding Midwest because threads rarely go into figures of multiple hundreds, so warnings/notes/etc mid-thread stand out anyway. It's usually a case of reminding a small number of posters to remember the charter.

When I was modding C&H we used to put "rules" or warnings into the OP as often as possible though, so I know it does work as a system. It just takes a little more than 30-odd posts in one Feedback thread to get 500+ mods to use the same protocol across some very different forums.

mitosis

Just to keep it fresh in the mind. Now you have to search out multiple mod notes before posting.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056751811

Mod has a link in OP to one of them. 5/10 for effort, I suppose

Would a discussion on a storm really require a mod warning or is Weather the After Hours of the Science forum, where people argue over everything?