DCU - LIARS!!!

charvin

This is my first time posting on boards because DCU won't respond to any of my emails. I have been away doing some charity work in Malawi since the start of June and only got internet access 4 days ago to check my exam results. I'm a first year student studying Business. I failed one exam in semester 1. I emailed my lecturer about compensating me and he said that I would have to pass my exams in semester 2. I had 5 exams in May and I failed 4 of them (32%, 33%, 34%, 34%) and passed the other (40%). WHY have I not been compensated? Why have I been lied to by my lecturer AND year head. I passed my exam in semester 2 like they said and I haven't been compensated. There is no way i'm paying €190 for these repeats! What should I do, please somebody help, I have emailed my lecturer and year head and have had no response!

Tow

charvin wrote: »

What should I do, please somebody help,

Welcome to the real world.

You should work harder, other people have to work hard and pay taxes, to pay for your course.

charvin

Tow wrote: »

Welcome to the real world.

You should work harder, other people have to work hard and pay taxes, to pay for your course.

what? I paid the course for myself, I have 3 jobs to help me fund the course. I can't afford to pay €190 for repeats when I have been lied to. I can't imagine me failing first year, all my hard work for nothing.

Tombi!

charvin wrote: »

what? I paid the course for myself, I have 3 jobs to help me fund the course. I can't afford to pay €190 for repeats when I have been lied to. I can't imagine me failing first year, all my hard work for nothing.

Look mate, I told you already in the AH thread: Your prof said pass your exams, you passed one.

You were to pass your exams, as in plural, more than one.

Hanley

Your lecturer told you that you had to pass your exams in Semester 2 to be compensated for the one you failed in Semester 1? And then you failed 4 exams in Semester 2, and are asking why you haven't been compensated for Semester 1?

Is that correct?

Tombi!

Hanley wrote: »

Your lecturer told you that you had to pass your exams in Semester 2 to be compensated for the one you failed in Semester 1? And then you failed 4 exams in Semester 2, and are asking why you haven't been compensated for Semester 1?

Is that correct?

You're right (from what I can tell) except he failed four out of the five exams in the second term.

bren2001

Tow wrote: »

Welcome to the real world.

You should work harder, other people have to work hard and pay taxes, to pay for your course.

How dont you know that he tried his best on the course? I could set you 10 exams and youd fail 9. He worked hard to get in to the course so what right do you have to judge him? For all you know he could have a learning disability.

ahandsomeman

@charvin don't know what you're winging about, hardly going to let a doctor pass by compensation after he/she failed most of their exams. get back to the library pal.

Bummer1234

charvin wrote: »

I had 5 exams in May and I failed 4 of them (32%, 33%, 34%, 34%) !

charvin wrote: »

I have 3 jobs to help me fund the course.

These two quotes should be your answer...You honestly can't concentrate on 3 jobs and Study for a degree at the same time.

charvin

Hanley wrote: »

Your lecturer told you that you had to pass your exams in Semester 2 to be compensated for the one you failed in Semester 1? And then you failed 4 exams in Semester 2, and are asking why you haven't been compensated for Semester 1?

Is that correct?

yeah...please back me up here...he is such a liar!!!! I did what he told me to do! pass an exam in semester 2!

Tombi!

charvin wrote: »

yeah...please back me up here...he is such a liar!!!! I did what he told me to do! pass an exam in semester 2!

Again, EXAMS. Not EXAM. Plural. You agreed to pass your exams in term 2.

You failed 4 of them. You only (barely) passed 1 exam. You didn't hold up your end of the agreement.

Larianne

charvin wrote: »

what? I paid the course for myself, I have 3 jobs to help me fund the course. I can't afford to pay €190 for repeats when I have been lied to. I can't imagine me failing first year, all my hard work for nothing.

Passing (barely) 1 out of 5 exams at the end of year exams doesn't seem like much hard work was done. If it was, then maybe the course isn't for you or you need help with your studying and/or exam technique.

Compensating a poor exam result to bring you up to a pass, would need you to get a high mark in the exam that you are compensating with. So you only passed one exam - 40%. You cannot compensate with that exam result as 40% is the pass mark.

You failed 4 exams this semester, so you would have to repeat some either way.

charvin

Bummer1234 wrote: »

These two quotes should be your answer...You honestly can't concentrate on 3 jobs and Study for a degree at the same time.

Its the only way for me to get a degree, I can't afford to go to college otherwise. I applied for a grant and never heard back which is a disgrace!

scdublin

In order to be compensated for the one exam you failed, you needed to pass all of your exams in semester 2 or at least four of them. If you did really well in them, your lecturer could then have taken the best grade from these exams and put it towards one/two exams that you failed. How on earth can they compensate your first failed exam, with four more failed exams?!

charvin

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Again, EXAMS. Not EXAM. Plural. You agreed to pass your exams in term 2.

You failed 4 of them. You only (barely) passed 1 exam. You didn't hold up your end of the agreement.

YES I did!!!!! he said pass an exam!!! What did i do??? I PASSED AN EXAM like he said!!! God you are so stupid!!!!

the groutch

you have 3 jobs when there's tens of thousands of people who would kill to even have one?
woe is you

charvin

I don't understand why I'm getting such negative feedback here, my lecturer said to pass my exam! I got 40%...I passed my exams!! Seriously what the hell is wrong with you people!?

Dave0301

You can only compensate up to 10 credits if the mark you got in the one 10 credit exam is 35%-40% or the two 5 credit exams are 35%-40%. Your overall average for the year must also be over 45%.

You don't satisfy either of these requirements and so will not be compensated.

The Big Red Button

charvin wrote: »

This is my first time posting on boards because DCU won't respond to any of my emails. I have been away doing some charity work in Malawi since the start of June and only got internet access 4 days ago to check my exam results.

Relevance ...?

charvin wrote: »

I'm a first year student studying Business. I failed one exam in semester 1. I emailed my lecturer about compensating me and he said that I would have to pass my exams in semester 2. I had 5 exams in May and I failed 4 of them (32%, 33%, 34%, 34%) and passed the other (40%). WHY have I not been compensated?

Because you needed to pass your year end exams ...? Which you didn't?

The way compensation generally works is that you have to pass your other exams by a lot in order to bring the failed subject up to a pass mark. So, even if you'd gotten 40% in all of your summer exams, I'd be very surprised if that was enough for you to earn a compensation mark in a previous exam.

charvin wrote: »

Why have I been lied to by my lecturer AND year head.

What did they lie to you about?

charvin wrote: »

I passed my exam in semester 2 like they said and I haven't been compensated.

You failed most of your exams, and barely scraped a pass in one of them

charvin wrote: »

There is no way i'm paying €190 for these repeats!

I certainly wouldn't advise it! By the sounds of it, you don't have enough interest in the course or aptitude for it to warrant repeating the first year exams.

What's the point in working to earn a qualification if they're going to let students of such low standard pass by compensation and, eventually, get a degree for it?

Tombi!

charvin wrote: »

YES I did!!!!! he said pass an exam!!! What did i do??? I PASSED AN EXAM like he said!!! God you are so stupid!!!!

No, you stated he said to pass your exams.

Now you are stating he said "pass an exam".

What one is the truth?

Larianne

charvin wrote: »

I don't understand why I'm getting such negative feedback here, my lecturer said to pass my exam! I got 40%...I passed my exams!! Seriously what the hell is wrong with you people!?

We're not very bright, obvo. :cool:

Boombastic

charvin wrote: »

I don't understand why I'm getting such negative feedback here, my lecturer said to pass my exam! I got 40%...I passed my exams!! Seriously what the hell is wrong with you people!?

Really, can you not see your error? :pac:


Did you collect tokens off the back of a cornflakes packet to gain entry?

Goat the dote

charvin wrote: »

I don't understand why I'm getting such negative feedback here, my lecturer said to pass my exam! I got 40%...I passed my exams!! Seriously what the hell is wrong with you people!?

You passed 20% of your exams. And you didn't pass it by much. You'd be more in your line to be studying for your repeats rather than attacking posters for pointing out the obvious

grey_so_what

charvin wrote: »

YES I did!!!!! he said pass an exam!!! What did i do??? I PASSED AN EXAM like he said!!! God you are so stupid!!!!

I'm not familiar with the exam system, but if you speak to your Lecturer like you do to the Boardies here, I wouldn't expect any reply soon.:(

charvin

the groutch wrote: »

you have 3 jobs when there's tens of thousands of people who would kill to even have one?
woe is you

not my problem I'm willing to do the jobs that some people wouldn't get off their lazy holes to do! If you offered an unemployed person to wipe an old persons arse they would be very reluctant to take it!

raymon

IBTL

charvin

Dave0301 wrote: »

You can only compensate up to 10 credits if the mark you got in the one 10 credit exam is 35%-40% or the two 5 credit exams are 35%-40%. Your overall average for the year must also be over 45%.

You don't satisfy either of these requirements and so will not be compensated.

but my lecturer said to pass in semester 2, I got 40%... I passed my exams!

Tombi!

charvin wrote: »

not my problem I'm willing to do the jobs that some people wouldn't get off their lazy holes to do! If you offered an unemployed person to wipe an old persons arse they would be very reluctant to take it!

You're missing the entire point.

You have to take three jobs to go college (one of which is charity so I'm not sure if it's paid, we'll say it is, though).

Instead of trying to balance three jobs and college, you shuld have waited to go to college and worked your arse off, saved up a good few grand and THEN went to college working less overall and studying more.

Then you wouldn't have failed 6 exams out of 7

charvin wrote: »

but my lecturer said to pass in semester 2, I got 40%... I passed my exams!

Did he say pass an exam in semester 2 or pass your exams in semester 2?

And in either case, as it's been pointed out, you wouldn't have had enough even if you just passed one exam

ninebeanrows

Lads and Lassies, why the hell are you entertaining this obvious troll!??

Reekwind

From what I recall, and it has been a while, DCU policy is that if you fail one exam (10 credits) and pass the others by a sufficient amount then they'll give you the pass. Regardless of the exact criteria, scraping a pass in 1 out of 5 exams is clearly not sufficient

I can see nothing in the OP's post that suggests that he was told otherwise. Hence I'm inclined to assume that there wasn't a breakdown in communication, much less lying, but that the OP simply misunderstood what was required

I don't understand why I'm getting such negative feedback here, my lecturer said to pass my exam! I got 40%...I passed my exams!! Seriously what the hell is wrong with you people!?

Did your lecturer say that you had to pass "an exam" or "the exams"? There's a difference between the singular and the plural that you're consistently missing here

If the lecturer said that you had to pass "my exam" (one), and left it at that, then he was wrong. I don't believe that this is likely. If he said that you had to pass "my exams" then you're wrong because you did not do so. One 40% out of five sittings does not mean that you passed your exams

bren2001 wrote: »

How dont you know that he tried his best on the course? I could set you 10 exams and youd fail 9. He worked hard to get in to the course so what right do you have to judge him? For all you know he could have a learning disability.

Anyone who fails 4 out of 5 first year business modules has not been trying hard enough. Barring a severe learning difficulty, to the point that remedial measures should be in place to compensate, anyone who puts the work in should be able to pass those modules with relative ease. And not much work: we're not exactly talking rocket science here

Dave0301

charvin wrote: »

but my lecturer said to pass in semester 2, I got 40%... I passed my exams!

Yes he said to pass semester 2. Passing one exam and failing 4 exams in May does not constitute passing semester 2. In fact I would say unequivocally that you in fact failed semester 2.

Slo_Rida

This is hilarious. I can only presume OP is taking the p!ss about failing exams yet expecting to progress into second year.
BUT I do think there's merit in what was said about dirty work and people not willing to do it.
By the way...well done on getting to Malawi while in college. I seem to recall summer holidays in college were for summer jobs to pay for college.
Anyway...let the fun stuff recommence.
SR

Abdul Abulbul Amir

Eh, no one is this stupid guys. Especially someone who manages to use mostly correct grammar and punctuation.

GavMan

So much LoL in this thread.

Charvin, judging by your performance on this thread, I'm not quite sure you are capable of undertaking university education.

Lets assume you had only one module in semester 1 (you don't mention any others for Semester 1) and you failed it.

Then you had 5 in semester 2 and failed 4.

So in total (in so far as we know) you sat 6 exams and failed 5.

How on earth do you expect the University to compensate you when your performance seems so utterly dismal? Do you have any reasonable extenuating circumstances that might explain your performance? The University probably will not care if you have 10 jobs.

If you ace'd five of them and failed the other by a couple of percent, you'd have a case. Right now you do not.

I suggest you log off Boards.ie, come home from Malawi at once, pay the €190 (which will cover you for all 5 exams), hit the library, study your ass off and do the exams

Lollipops23

OP, I'm not sure how college was explained to you, but as it's been pointed out here "passing your exams" is more than getting 40% in ONE exam. You need to pass (get min 40%) in ALL of them.

Compensation works by allowing maybe one fail when you've done well in all the others (passed by a good bit).

Sorry to sound patronising but you don't seem to be understanding the grown up words.

neil_hosey

either the troll of the century..

or the most annoying, most stupid person i have ever met.

polkabunny

Compensation is only applied when all of the following conditions are met:

i. the modules are being attempted for the first time, i.e. where a full set of exam marks is presented for the first time; compensation is not applied in relation to modules being attempted at a second or subsequent sitting

ii. a minimum precision mark of 45% must be obtained

iii. a maximum of 1/6 of the available ECTS credits have been failed (regardless of the semester in which the failure(s) occur or of how these ECTS credits are made up in terms of modules) in the academic session

iv. the marks obtained in the individual failed module(s) is/are 35% or greater.

charvin

bren2001 wrote: »

How dont you know that he tried his best on the course? I could set you 10 exams and youd fail 9. He worked hard to get in to the course so what right do you have to judge him? For all you know he could have a learning disability.

THANK YOU Bren2001, I did work hard! I worked very HARD! I have Dyscalculia. There was a lot of mathematical exam type questions and my lecturers obviously didn't take my disability into consideration.

Lets assume you had only one module in semester 1 (you don't mention any others for Semester 1) and you failed it.

I had four exams in total in semester 1. I failed one and passed the other three. I passed the three exams because they were essay style answers that involved no maths.

Abdul Abulbul Amir

Your year head, what's his/her name?

Tombi!

charvin wrote: »

THANK YOU Bren2001, I did work hard! I worked very HARD! I have Dyscalculia. There was a lot of mathematical exam type questions and my lecturers obviously didn't take my disability into consideration.

Lets assume you had only one module in semester 1 (you don't mention any others for Semester 1) and you failed it.

I had four exams in total in semester 1. I failed one and passed the other three. I passed the three exams because they were essay style answers that involved no maths.

I don't think you did either. If you had a learning disability you should have made it quite clear adn see what support you could have gotten.

CreepingDeath

charvin wrote: »

THANK YOU Bren2001, I did work hard! I worked very HARD! I have Dyscalculia. There was a lot of mathematical exam type questions and my lecturers obviously didn't take my disability into consideration.

How do you expect to work in business if you can't do maths?
Do you just expect to be a simple supervisor or manager?

Anyone who fails 4 out of 5 exams would be expected to repeat their exams.
A doctors note for dyscalculia should not entitle you to a fruadulent degree in a subject that you are not qualified in.

charvin

CreepingDeath wrote: »

How do you expect to work in business if you can't do maths?
Do you just expect to be a simple supervisor or manager?

Anyone who fails 4 out of 5 exams would be expected to repeat their exams.
A doctors note for dyscalculia should not entitle you to a fruadulent degree in a subject that you are not qualified in.

no I want a degree in business so I can open up my own store(I will hire and accountant to deal with the finance side of the store). I know having dyscalculia is no excuse for failing exams but I have a reason to why I have done so poorly in my exams (I still think im entitled to pass by compensation)

I feel like an idiot on here

Gurgle

Marks and Standards

COMPENSATION: Compensation is defined as the process by which a student, who fails to satisfy some of the regulations for credit in a specific module, is nevertheless recommended for credit award on the grounds that the failure is offset by his/her performance in other modules of his/her programme of study.

Its been a while since I graduated, IIRC the rules were:

You could compensate a maximum of 3 modules.

You had to get > 30% to compensate, and had to have a balancing result of 50% + double the fail margin for each module being compensated.

So to compensate a 30% in one module you had to get 70% in another.

If you failed less than 3 exams you could just repeat your fails, if you failed 3 or more you had to repeat everything.

-edit-
Current rules, from above link:

7.1.4 Compensation is applied only when all of the following conditions are met:
i. the modules are being attempted for the first time, i.e. a full set of module marks is presented for the first time; compensation is not applied in relation to modules being attempted at a second or subsequent sitting
ii. a minimum precision mark of 45% has been obtained
iii. a maximum of 1/6 of the available ECTS credits have been failed in the academic session (regardless of the semester in which the failure(s) occur or of how these ECTS credits are made up in terms of modules).
iv. the marks obtained in the individual failed module(s) is/are 35% or greater.

charvin

Abdul Abulbul Amir wrote: »

Your year head, what's his/her name?

their name is Abdul Abulbul Amir...worst person ever!

sunshinediver

Funniest thread I've read all month

Abdul Abulbul Amir

Your year head sounds sexy charvin. I envy you.

28064212

charvin wrote: »

why are you comparing me to a troll? Why should looks come into this?

I find it funny that the first time you posted this denial of trolling, you accidentally used the wrong account (nbar12) and revealed yourself to be a troll

xaoifsx

charvin wrote: »

YES I did!!!!! he said pass an exam!!! What did i do??? I PASSED AN EXAM like he said!!! God you are so stupid!!!!

i think your the stupid one here...

charvin

why are you comparing me to a troll? Why should looks come into this?

Larianne

28064212 wrote: »

I find it funny that the first time you posted this denial of trolling, you accidentally used the wrong account (nbar12) and revealed yourself to be a troll

Fails at exams, fails at trolling. Poor mite.

Green Diesel

facepalmville

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