First Marathon - Training Schedule

moggie4000

Hi All,

I only took up running last year in which i completed the 5 mile, 10 mile and half marathon which i was delighted about and thoroughly enjoyed. This year i have set my sights on the Dublin marathon. I have run a 10k only this year and i'm starting my training on Monday 9th July.

Really looking forward to the challenge which will be tough but i can definitely achieve it!

I will be posting my training up on this thread and see how i'm getting on.

First week target - 23 miles

Here goes...

moggie4000

Started my first training week for the marathon.

Monday - 3 Miles, struggled a small bit at the start but enjoyed it after that!
Tuesday - 4 Miles, thoroughly enjoyed it, could have ran another 2-3 miles but stopped at the 4 miles and walked home.

Back to the 3 miles this evening.

For all you experienced runners, the programme i am working off only allows one day of rest. Do you recommend more days rest or is one enough?

Just from past running, resting for 2-3 days, i was brand new and ready to go.

Be interesting to hear your thoughts.

Cheers,

Moggie

hardCopy

moggie4000 wrote: »

Started my first training week for the marathon.

Monday - 3 Miles, struggled a small bit at the start but enjoyed it after that!
Tuesday - 4 Miles, thoroughly enjoyed it, could have ran another 2-3 miles but stopped at the 4 miles and walked home.

Back to the 3 miles this evening.

For all you experienced runners, the programme i am working off only allows one day of rest. Do you recommend more days rest or is one enough?

Just from past running, resting for 2-3 days, i was brand new and ready to go.

Be interesting to hear your thoughts.

Cheers,

Moggie

I'd say it's a case of "it depends". I saw great improvements at all distances by upping my mileage last year, I did this by running more frequently 5 or 6 times per week vs 3 or 4. But not everyone can do this, particularly when you're starting off. You need to watch out for any niggles that may show up with increasing demands on the legs.

You might get more responses if you pose this as a question in the main forum.

Best of luck with the marathon, I did Dublin last year as my first. I loved it, once it was over!

moggie4000

I thin your right, i'll see how it goes. If i feel i need a rest i will take it to our body to recover as i'm certainly not used to running 6 days per week.

Well done on your marathon last year.

Did you do anything else bar running e.g. swimming, cycling etc??

hardCopy

moggie4000 wrote: »

I thin your right, i'll see how it goes. If i feel i need a rest i will take it to our body to recover as i'm certainly not used to running 6 days per week.

Well done on your marathon last year.

Did you do anything else bar running e.g. swimming, cycling etc??

I did Gaelforce in August last year so I was cycling as well as running, once that was over I concentrated on running up until the Marathon. I basically worked off Hal Higdon's Novice Half Marathon Plan with extra cycling up until Gaelforce and then did the Dublin Half Marathon, after that I jumped into the Novice 1 Marathon Plan.

moggie4000

From reading the boards posts i hear alot about recovery runs. My training schedule does not mention anything about recovery runs, should i be doing them the day after a long run?

D Chief

Have a look at the Dublin Marathon 2012 - Mentored Novices Thread and ask your questions there. It is aimed at helping novices along towards running DCM 2012. There are a number of experienced marathoners who monitor that thread and will help you out.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056619234

moggie4000

Will do, thanks.

moggie4000

Day 3 of my marathon training schedule.

3 mile run, really enjoyable and reminded me why i love this hobby...

After reading lots of posts yesterday in relation to marathon running, one of the main points i found, is to run alot slower than i was currently running at. Here is the difference:

Mon 9th July - 3 miles 26.26 minutes @ 8.47 min/mile
Tues 10th July - 4 miles 35.03 minutes @ 8.45 min/mile
Wed 11th July - 3 miles 29.22 minutes @ 9.39 min/mile

Big difference, in fact, afterwards i was thinking should i be going slower but we'll see how i go tonight.

My schedule tonight is 4m easy with a few strides in the middle. Looking forward to it now.

I know this is my first week but i am loving this at the moment, we'll see how i am when i get to 16 weeks......

moggie4000

Day four of marathon training and once again a very enjoyable experience! The advice i received re running at a slower pace has made an unbelievable difference.

Mon 9th July - 3 miles 26.26 minutes @ 8.47 min/mile
Tues 10th July - 4 miles 35.03 minutes @ 8.45 min/mile
Wed 11th July - 3 miles 29.22 minutes @ 9.39 min/mile
Thurs 12th July - 4 miles 41.42 minutes @ 10.23 min/mile

Tonight's run included some strides in between which felt good.

Started eating very healthily this week also which i feel is also making a difference.

Rest day tomorrow with a 5 mile run on Saturday.

moggie4000

Day 6 of my first marathon training schedule.

After my rest day yesterday, today was my first 5 mile run. I went swimming in the morning with my 2 year old daughter then completed my 5 mile run. My times are a little out as there was a 4 minute conversation for work purposes.

Mon 9th July - 3 miles 26.26 minutes @ 8.47 min/mile
Tues 10th July - 4 miles 35.03 minutes @ 8.45 min/mile
Wed 11th July - 3 miles 29.22 minutes @ 9.39 min/mile
Thurs 12th July - 4 miles 41.42 minutes @ 10.23 min/mile
Fri 13th July - Rest Day
Sat 14th July - 5 miles 56.45(technically 52.45) @ 11.19 min/mile

Really enjoyed my run again, running slowly has really increased my enjoyment for running ten fold...4 mile run tomorrow will complete my first week.

moggie4000

Finished my first week marathon training - 23 miles in total finished, only 15 weeks to go!!

Mon 9th July - 3 miles 26.26 minutes @ 8.47 min/mile
Tues 10th July - 4 miles 35.03 minutes @ 8.45 min/mile
Wed 11th July - 3 miles 29.22 minutes @ 9.39 min/mile
Thurs 12th July - 4 miles 41.42 minutes @ 10.23 min/mile
Fri 13th July - Rest DaySat 14th July - 5 miles 56.45(technically 52.45) @ 11.19 min/mile
Sun 15th July - 4 miles 39.20 @ 9.47 min/mile

From mile 2-3 i ran comfortably at a quicker pace and slowed it down for the final mile.

For my second weeks training schedule I've to complete the same as above, with the Fingal 10k on Sunday. I think I'll take my rest day on Saturday instead of Friday to have the rest day before the race. I'm hoping to beat my last time of 56.02. Also for next week I'm going to try and run slower again than i havebeen.Moggie

RedRunner

moggie4000 wrote: »

Finished my first week marathon training - 23 miles in total finished, only 15 weeks to go!!

Mon 9th July - 3 miles 26.26 minutes @ 8.47 min/mile
Tues 10th July - 4 miles 35.03 minutes @ 8.45 min/mile
Wed 11th July - 3 miles 29.22 minutes @ 9.39 min/mile
Thurs 12th July - 4 miles 41.42 minutes @ 10.23 min/mile
Fri 13th July - Rest DaySat 14th July - 5 miles 56.45(technically 52.45) @ 11.19 min/mile
Sun 15th July - 4 miles 39.20 @ 9.47 min/mile

From mile 2-3 i ran comfortably at a quicker pace and slowed it down for the final mile.

For my second weeks training schedule I've to complete the same as above, with the Fingal 10k on Sunday. I think I'll take my rest day on Saturday instead of Friday to have the rest day before the race. I'm hoping to beat my last time of 56.02. Also for next week I'm going to try and run slower again than i havebeen.Moggie

Hi,
Good luck with your training for DCM. I did my first last year without following any real plan as such, more a mish-mash of different plans and ran to "feel" as opposed to proper paced runs so hoping that works out better for me this year. I'm just curious though , what plan are you following?

i'm following Hal Higdon Intermediate 1 and this has me running 5 days a week whereas you seem to be doing 6 days which seems a lot for first time marathoner.

moggie4000

RedRunner wrote: »

moggie4000 wrote: »

Finished my first week marathon training - 23 miles in total finished, only 15 weeks to go!!

Mon 9th July - 3 miles 26.26 minutes @ 8.47 min/mile
Tues 10th July - 4 miles 35.03 minutes @ 8.45 min/mile
Wed 11th July - 3 miles 29.22 minutes @ 9.39 min/mile
Thurs 12th July - 4 miles 41.42 minutes @ 10.23 min/mile
Fri 13th July - Rest DaySat 14th July - 5 miles 56.45(technically 52.45) @ 11.19 min/mile
Sun 15th July - 4 miles 39.20 @ 9.47 min/mile

From mile 2-3 i ran comfortably at a quicker pace and slowed it down for the final mile.

For my second weeks training schedule I've to complete the same as above, with the Fingal 10k on Sunday. I think I'll take my rest day on Saturday instead of Friday to have the rest day before the race. I'm hoping to beat my last time of 56.02. Also for next week I'm going to try and run slower again than i havebeen.Moggie

Hi,
Good luck with your training for DCM. I did my first last year without following any real plan as such, more a mish-mash of different plans and ran to "feel" as opposed to proper paced runs so hoping that works out better for me this year. I'm just curious though , what plan are you following?

i'm following Hal Higdon Intermediate 1 and this has me running 5 days a week whereas you seem to be doing 6 days which seems a lot for first time marathoner.

Hi,

I am following a schedule from the dublin city marathon website. This schedule will get me a time of 4 hours to 4:45 hrs. My goal is below 4 hours though. I have looked at the Hal higdon and it's quite similar but one day less. I am going to try and stick with this schedule as much as I can.

RedRunner

moggie4000 wrote: »

Hi,

I am following a schedule from the dublin city marathon website. This schedule will get me a time of 4 hours to 4:45 hrs. My goal is below 4 hours though. I have looked at the Hal higdon and it's quite similar but one day less. I am going to try and stick with this schedule as much as I can.

Best of luck with it,I hope it goes well for you. My goal is also 3:59:59:) .I ran it in 4:45 last year but had to walk a fair bit of last 10k.:(

moggie4000

RedRunner wrote: »

Best of luck with it,I hope it goes well for you. My goal is also 3:59:59:) .I ran it in 4:45 last year but had to walk a fair bit of last 10k.:(

Best of luck to you too. Any tips from last years race?

moggie4000

Back from my 3 mile run this evening which i originally thought i would run at an easy pace to ease myself into my 2nd week of marathon training but as i got closer to a hill which is part of the Fingal 10k this Sunday i thought lets see how quickly i can do this - mistake!

I didn't enjoy the run at all, ran quite quickly (for me) for the first 4kms then the fifth i was absolutely wrecked!

Here are my times:

Monday 16th July - 3.1 miles - 29.41 @9.34 min/mile

I ran the first km @ 6.09 min/km
2nd@ 5.13 min/km
3rd @ 4.46 min/km
4th @ 5.00 min/km
5th @ 8.30 min/km

Back to the slow steady run of 4 miles tomorrow...

moggie4000

moggie4000 wrote: »

Back from my 3 mile run this evening which i originally thought i would run at an easy pace to ease myself into my 2nd week of marathon training but as i got closer to a hill which is part of the Fingal 10k this Sunday i thought lets see how quickly i can do this - mistake!

I didn't enjoy the run at all, ran quite quickly (for me) for the first 4kms then the fifth i was absolutely wrecked!

Here are my times:

Monday 16th July - 3.1 miles - 29.41 @9.34 min/mile

I ran the first km @ 6.09 min/km
2nd@ 5.13 min/km
3rd @ 4.46 min/km
4th @ 5.00 min/km
5th @ 8.30 min/km

Back to the slow steady run of 4 miles tomorrow...

I had a great 4 mile run this evening, I ran at my own pace that I was comfortable with.

Tuesday 17th July - 4 miles - 37.41 @ 9.23 min/mile

If I stick to this pace for the fingal 10k run on Sunday I'll beat my PB.

Beautiful evening out also, really enjoyable!

RedRunner

moggie4000 wrote: »

Best of luck to you too. Any tips from last years race?

Any tips? Mmmmm let me see... My first tip would be to make sure you put in the training. The distance is not to be underestimated.

Second tip....forget about times...the first marathon is to be enjoyed and savour the great support from the crowds..they really help you along in the last stretch.

Third tip..keep an eye on mentored novices thread..the experienced guys/girls on Boards have lots of really good advice to give

RedRunner

moggie4000 wrote: »

I had a great 4 mile run this evening, I ran at my own pace that I was comfortable with.

Tuesday 17th July - 4 miles - 37.41 @ 9.23 min/mile

If I stick to this pace for the fingal 10k run on Sunday I'll beat my PB.

Beautiful evening out also, really enjoyable!

Good luck on Sunday..I'll be there too..

moggie4000

RedRunner wrote: »

Any tips? Mmmmm let me see... My first tip would be to make sure you put in the training. The distance is not to be underestimated.

Second tip....forget about times...the first marathon is to be enjoyed and savour the great support from the crowds..they really help you along in the last stretch.

Third tip..keep an eye on mentored novices thread..the experienced guys/girls on Boards have lots of really good advice to give

Thanks. Good luck on Sunday!

moggie4000

Another really enjoyable 3 miles. It certainly helps and actually improves your times if you run at a steady pace rather than a quick burst at the start and your wrecked towards the end of the run.

Wednesday 18th July - 3.05 miles - 27.18 minutes @8.57 min/mile

Now if i could keep that pace for another 23.2 miles in October I'd be very very happy!!

Wore my new compression shorts this evening along with my iphone pouch/holder. Felt like a real runner...

4 miles this evening which will be done quite late as i have a meeting until 8.45pm. Thank god for the bright evenings.

Also, good tip re the cold shower, really has helped my muscle recovery.

moggie4000

Thursday 19th July

Enjoyable 4 mile run, later than usual.

4.03 miles - 38.23 minutes @ 9.32 min/mile

Feeling really good at the moment, healthy food, running is enjoyable although it is 4.30am in the morning and i've been wide awake for the past 2 and a half hours...

Fingal 10k should be good on Sunday.

My new 1000 mile socks arrived today, really comfortable.

3 miles tomorrow with a rest day on saturday which will involve a swim. Then the 10k on Sunday and 2 weeks training are finito!

The following 2 weeks are runs of 4,4,4,6,Rest,5,4 miles. I am looking forward to getting some long runs in to see how my fitness has improved. I'm also thinking about doing the Port Tunnel 10k in August.

moggie4000

Fingal 10k today

Delighted with beating my PB. I ran today's race 53.15 which is over 2 minutes better than my last 10k race.

Back to training tomorrow with a 4 mile run

moggie4000

My 3rd week of my marathon training. After the Fingal 10k on Sunday getting out to do a 4 mile wasn't as hard as I thought. I did have one or two niggles along the 4 mile run but nothing too serious.

Monday 23rd July - 4.03 miles - 39.26 minutes @ 9.47 min/mile

Another 4 miles this evening, which I am going to try and run even slower again.

moggie4000

Another 4 mile run yesterday evening at a really nice slow pace with some easy strides in between.

Tuesday 24th July - 4.02 miles - 43.49 minutes @ 10.53 min/mile.

Another 4 miles to run this evening, if i could get up past the 11 min/mile I'd be happy. It's surprising how difficult it is to run slower... It really works though.

Will be heading up to the Morton Mile/Games tonight to see some real athletes, don't know how they run 4 min/mile.

Cheers
Moggie

moggie4000

After my trip to the Morton mile last night i came home to do my 4 mile run. I went a little faster than i had planned (maybe due to watching real athletes skip around the track in no time) but at the same time i really enjoyed it. It was around 10 o'clock so it was nice and cool, not many people/traffic around.

Wednesday 25th July - 4.02 miles - 36.01 minutes @ 8.57 min/mile

That is exactly my target for the marathon in October which will bring me in under the 4 hour mark.

6 mile run this evening - actually looking forward to it on this beautiful sunny day!

moggie4000

Thursday 26th July - 5.99 miles - 61.25 minutes @ 10.14 min/mile

Beautiful evening for a 6 mile run, went as slow as i could but maybe could be slower. Enjoyed it very much but going to enjoy my rest day today even more...

So rest day today, 5 mile on saturday and 4 mile on sunday which will complete my 3rd week training schedule.

I find my new running socks and compression shorts are working out very well. I had thoughts today as to what i'll do after i complete the marathon, maybe the 4 peaks challenege?? Maybe the London marathon?? Not too sure yet, only time will tell.

moggie4000

Saturday 28th July

5 mile run -41.54 minutes @8.18 min/mile

Sunday 29th July

4 mile run - 34.02 minutes @ 8.28 min/mile

Ran around at a steady pace, this was the quickest I've ran ever... Felt really good on both days to complete my 3rd weeks training.

4 miles this evening

moggie4000

Tuesday 31st July

Was a little tired before yesterday's training so decided to change my route to add a little bit of interest to it. I think the same route can get a tad monotonous. So i did 4 laps of some football fields that are about a mile from my house which was certainly different.

4 miles - 37.45 - 9.23 min/mile

I also registered my name for this years DCM which i am delighted about! I discovered i may be away for the 10 mile race in the park so i'll just do the half marathon or maybe look at another 10 mile elsewhere.

moggie4000

Wednesday 1st August

I ran another 4 miles at a very good pace, again running on grass.

4.02m - 34.11 minutes @ 8.30min/mile

Thursday 2nd August

I went out at 7pm this evening to do my 6 miles but i needed to be back in 45 minutes in order for my wife to go to her kettle bells. I originally thought i'll just do the 4 miles and add the other 2 miles to Sunday's run but after my first 4 miles i was still able to run at what turned out to be over 5 minutes better than my PB. Really enjoyed it, it's amazing what you can do when your under pressure...

6 miles - 47.37 minutes @ 7.56 min/mile

Rest day today with 5 miles and swimming on Saturday and 4 miles on Sunday which will complete my 4 weeks training.

Really enjoying running on the grass by the way. A change...

moggie4000

Saturday 4th August - 5 miles - 44.33 minutes @ 8.53 min/mile
Sunday 5th August - 4 miles - 35.43 minutes @ 8.54 min/mile
Monday 6th August - 5 miles - 52.54 minutes @ 10.30 min/mile
Friday 10th August - 8 miles - 1.18.57 minutes @ 9.43 min/mile
Saturday 11th August - 5 miles - 48.43 minutes @ 9.42 min/mile
Sunday 12th August - 10 miles - 1.38.38 minutes @ 9.49 min/mile

Here is a run-down of my running over the past week or so. I missed out on 3 days last week due to work/daughter's birthday party so i increased my mileage to catch up which i'm not sure is a good thing or not...

I ran the most miles firstly running 8 miles then yesterday i ran 10 miles. Just looking at my times, i can run 8 miles, 5 miles and 10 miles all around the same pace which i'm happy about.

This weeks schedule is 5,6,8,6,8,10 miles with a rest day on Friday. I am away for the 10 mile frank duffy so i am looking for a 10 mile to replace it with before the half marathon.

-Moggie

moggie4000

After my 10 mile run on Sunday i had some soreness in my left knee which was concerning me slightly. Know and again over the past 5 weeks i would get slight pain in this knee but i was always able to run though it.

Monday 13th August

I started off my 5 mile run in pretty serious pain in my left knee which i was very tempted to abandon ship after the first mile. But after watching a couple of videos yesterday in relation to the correct techniques for running the pain was steadily going away, so from this i would say that the pain in my knee was from a bad running technique and was putting excess pressure on my knees.

5.04 miles - 47.30 minutes @ 9.24 mins/mile.

I did also feel as if i was going much faster than normal but i think i was taking shorter steps than usual because looking at my time i wasn't any quicker than i usually am. I iced my knees when i went home last night and they feel pretty ok today which i'm happy about.

RedRunner

moggie4000 wrote: »

Saturday 4th August - 5 miles - 44.33 minutes @ 8.53 min/mile
Sunday 5th August - 4 miles - 35.43 minutes @ 8.54 min/mile
Monday 6th August - 5 miles - 52.54 minutes @ 10.30 min/mile
Friday 10th August - 8 miles - 1.18.57 minutes @ 9.43 min/mile
Saturday 11th August - 5 miles - 48.43 minutes @ 9.42 min/mile
Sunday 12th August - 10 miles - 1.38.38 minutes @ 9.49 min/mile

Here is a run-down of my running over the past week or so. I missed out on 3 days last week due to work/daughter's birthday party so i increased my mileage to catch up which i'm not sure is a good thing or not...

I ran the most miles firstly running 8 miles then yesterday i ran 10 miles. Just looking at my times, i can run 8 miles, 5 miles and 10 miles all around the same pace which i'm happy about.

This weeks schedule is 5,6,8,6,8,10 miles with a rest day on Friday. I am away for the 10 mile frank duffy so i am looking for a 10 mile to replace it with before the half marathon.

-Moggie

Just curious, but your pacing seems to be a little all over the place. My understanding (from others more knowledgeable than I)is that you should be running your midweek runs at an easy pace(maybe including atempo run) depending on what training plan you are following. If this is your first marathon all the midweek runs should really be at easy pace and the Long runs at weekend should be slower again.

You also seem to be doing a lot of runs. 5,6,8,6,8,10 is a lot for a novice and may account for your knee problems.IMHO you are on road to injury/overtraining if you keep this up.

Looks like from your times you are similar enough standard to me. I try and run my midweek runs at about 9:20min/mile pace and Long runs at weekend at 9:40-10.00 avg pace. Planned marathon pace being 9:09 for a 4hr marathon.

moggie4000

RedRunner wrote: »

Just curious, but your pacing seems to be a little all over the place. My understanding (from others more knowledgeable than I)is that you should be running your midweek runs at an easy pace(maybe including atempo run) depending on what training plan you are following. If this is your first marathon all the midweek runs should really be at easy pace and the Long runs at weekend should be slower again.

You also seem to be doing a lot of runs. 5,6,8,6,8,10 is a lot for a novice and may account for your knee problems.IMHO you are on road to injury/overtraining if you keep this up.

Looks like from your times you are similar enough standard to me. I try and run my midweek runs at about 9:20min/mile pace and Long runs at weekend at 9:40-10.00 avg pace. Planned marathon pace being 9:09 for a 4hr marathon.

Hi redrunner,

Your right my pacing does seem to be all over the place, i tend to run as good as i feel on the day, should i be consistently running at the same pace?

I have been running 6 days per week for the past 5 weeks now and since the start i have wondered whether 6 days was too much but i'm working off the training schedule from the DCM website which is a schedule for 4hr - 4.45hrs marathon?

Our marathon pace is exactly the same, i'm looking to do it under the 4hr mark.

I've just ordered an IT compression band to see if this will help with my knee.

RedRunner

Just had a look at the DCM plan and yeah it looks tough enough. He does mention at the start of the document though to adust it to suit yourself and reduce the mileage appropriately. On the Hal Higdon Inter1 plan which I am following it is 5 days running with one cross training day and I find that more than enough, in fact just recovering from injury after missing weeks 6 and 7 but that is probably down to me doing too much.

Last year I didn't follow any plan just did 3-4 runs per week including a LSR at weekend and just increased LSR by 1 mile or two each weekend. Did the race series too but had only trained 8 miles by time 10 miler came around and only done 10 miles(the ten miler) by time half marathon came around. Also missed about 3 weeks in summer due to illness. I didn't pace any of my runs just went with feel and ran the long ones slow.At the end of all that I managed 4:45. Was struggling from mile 17/18 though and did a fair bit of walking from 21 onwards.

This year I have a lot more mileage in the legs and feel more prepared apart from recent blip injury -wise. I think it is a good idea to define what your pace should be on each run and try stick to it, even if it feels a bit too easy at the time. It is good practice for the big day when pacing will be very important. This is where the GPS watches are very useful.

Hope the knee doesn't cause you too many problems and good luck with the rest of the training. If you can stick to that plan you'll be flying.

moggie4000

RedRunner wrote: »

Just had a look at the DCM plan and yeah it looks tough enough. He does mention at the start of the document though to adust it to suit yourself and reduce the mileage appropriately. On the Hal Higdon Inter1 plan which I am following it is 5 days running with one cross training day and I find that more than enough, in fact just recovering from injury after missing weeks 6 and 7 but that is probably down to me doing too much.

Last year I didn't follow any plan just did 3-4 runs per week including a LSR at weekend and just increased LSR by 1 mile or two each weekend. Did the race series too but had only trained 8 miles by time 10 miler came around and only done 10 miles(the ten miler) by time half marathon came around. Also missed about 3 weeks in summer due to illness. I didn't pace any of my runs just went with feel and ran the long ones slow.At the end of all that I managed 4:45. Was struggling from mile 17/18 though and did a fair bit of walking from 21 onwards.

This year I have a lot more mileage in the legs and feel more prepared apart from recent blip injury -wise. I think it is a good idea to define what your pace should be on each run and try stick to it, even if it feels a bit too easy at the time. It is good practice for the big day when pacing will be very important. This is where the GPS watches are very useful.

Hope the knee doesn't cause you too many problems and good luck with the rest of the training. If you can stick to that plan you'll be flying.

After some conversations here yesterday i have decided to stick with the plan i am currently doing but take one day out for cycling, so i bought myself a exercise bike yesterday and did 20 minutes on it instead of my run. Obviously i will increase the amount of time on it over the next few weeks.

I have looked at the HHN2 and obviously it works but it seems that there is a big leap in mileage like Rest,3,6,3, Rest,12,Cross. I have a 10 mile race this Sunday in Slane so i'll see how i'm fairing out with it.

dazza21ie

moggie4000 wrote: »

After some conversations here yesterday i have decided to stick with the plan i am currently doing but take one day out for cycling, so i bought myself a exercise bike yesterday and did 20 minutes on it instead of my run. Obviously i will increase the amount of time on it over the next few weeks.

I have looked at the HHN2 and obviously it works but it seems that there is a big leap in mileage like Rest,3,6,3, Rest,12,Cross. I have a 10 mile race this Sunday in Slane so i'll see how i'm fairing out with it.

Had thought about doing the same training myself before opting for HHN2. It think the best part of the HHN2 is how it gradually builds up the LSR each week and then has a step back week every three to give your body that chance to recover.

I'm sure your legs will thank you for the introduction of cross training it will feel like a rest for them.

If you have a good race on Sunday you should put your time into the McMillan Calculator which will give you some idea of where your at and more importantly guide training pace for each type of run. Not that I'm one to talk about pacing!

Best of luck on Sunday and with your training.

moggie4000

Did the Slane Castle 10 mile run on Sunday 19th August. The course itself was fairly hilly but i thought it was a good challenge for me me to see where i was at with my training. Last year i did the Frank Duffy 10 mile in 1.36, i did Slane Castle in 1.26.43, so it just shows how far i have come in a year. I will miss the Frank Duffy this weekend as i'm away on holidays but i will definitely be doing the half marathon.

My knee was pretty sore after the 10 mile race so i rested yesterday and i'll do my 10k cross training on my exercise bike this evening and try and get out on Wednesday for a run of 6 miles. My LSR for this Sunday is 12 miles, i'm away for the weekend and back on Sunday afternoon so hopefully i have the energy and will to get out and do it!

RedRunner

moggie4000 wrote: »

Did the Slane Castle 10 mile run on Sunday 19th August. The course itself was fairly hilly but i thought it was a good challenge for me me to see where i was at with my training. Last year i did the Frank Duffy 10 mile in 1.36, i did Slane Castle in 1.26.43, so it just shows how far i have come in a year. I will miss the Frank Duffy this weekend as i'm away on holidays but i will definitely be doing the half marathon.

My knee was pretty sore after the 10 mile race so i rested yesterday and i'll do my 10k cross training on my exercise bike this evening and try and get out on Wednesday for a run of 6 miles. My LSR for this Sunday is 12 miles, i'm away for the weekend and back on Sunday afternoon so hopefully i have the energy and will to get out and do it!

Well done on the new PB !

beeduybe

moggie4000 wrote: »

Did the Slane Castle 10 mile run on Sunday 19th August. The course itself was fairly hilly but i thought it was a good challenge for me me to see where i was at with my training. Last year i did the Frank Duffy 10 mile in 1.36, i did Slane Castle in 1.26.43, so it just shows how far i have come in a year.

Well done. That's a big improvement and considering how hilly the course was you should be able to run 1 or 2 minutes quicker on a flatter course.

moggie4000

beeduybe wrote: »

Well done. That's a big improvement and considering how hilly the course was you should be able to run 1 or 2 minutes quicker on a flatter course.

Thanks Guys, yes I was delighted with my time, some of the hills were a killer! If I can do the DCM in 9.09 min/mile i'll be a very happy man.

Tuesday 21st August

25 minutes on the exercise bike which showed up over 13 kms which I'm not too sure i believe but happy with the 25 minutes and my knee not too sore. I'm going to try and get out and run this evening for 5 miles and see how i am afterwards. I have ordered a compression band which hasn't arrived yet but looking forward to seeing if it helps any.

moggie4000

Ok guys, i haven't been on in a while due to being away on holidays then my knee situation got progressively worse. I went out for an intended 5 mile run only to pull up after 2 miles with the shooting pain in my left knee area.

I got myself to the physio last night generally hoping for a nice massage but instead got absolutely pummelled, stuck some needles in me and sent me off with some new stretching exercises. Feel pretty good today though. It's basically the band the goes from my knee to my backside that's causing the problem, all bones in good nick! He reckons i'll only be out for a week and i can do the charleville half marathon near the end of the month, disappointed not to be doing the half in the park but hey ho...

So my plan has been scuppered slightly but i'll just have to adjust and get on with it. The physio also told me the runners i have are a disaster, so i'm off to buy new runners in the next couple of days.

So the plan is to do my stretching twice a day for the next week and head out for a 4-5 mile run on Monday.

RedRunner

moggie4000 wrote: »

Ok guys, i haven't been on in a while due to being away on holidays then my knee situation got progressively worse. I went out for an intended 5 mile run only to pull up after 2 miles with the shooting pain in my left knee area.

I got myself to the physio last night generally hoping for a nice massage but instead got absolutely pummelled, stuck some needles in me and sent me off with some new stretching exercises. Feel pretty good today though. It's basically the band the goes from my knee to my backside that's causing the problem, all bones in good nick! He reckons i'll only be out for a week and i can do the charleville half marathon near the end of the month, disappointed not to be doing the half in the park but hey ho...

So my plan has been scuppered slightly but i'll just have to adjust and get on with it. The physio also told me the runners i have are a disaster, so i'm off to buy new runners in the next couple of days.

So the plan is to do my stretching twice a day for the next week and head out for a 4-5 mile run on Monday.

Hope the injury doesn't hold you back too much. Make sure you get good advice on the runners by going to running specialists!

moggie4000

RedRunner wrote: »

Hope the injury doesn't hold you back too much. Make sure you get good advice on the runners by going to running specialists!

I'm going to go to amphibian king to get gait analysis and new pair of runners.

RedRunner

moggie4000 wrote: »

I'm going to go to amphibian king to get gait analysis and new pair of runners.

Went there myself too recently for first time and thought they were brilliant.