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itunes to non apple mp3 transfer help

  • 05-07-2012 12:38pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭


    I have an ipod & I use itunes, have bought a philips mp3 player for my daughters birthday
    I want to be able to buy & download songs via itunes for her and have some songs on it for her by Saturday morning so need to know how to do this kind of urgently :(

    I'm not a wizz on the laptop so even a link to a step by step guide to doing this that I can print off and follow would be great, I came across one recently on boards, think it was a currys link but for the life of me can't find it again, please help

    Thanks


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,423 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    can you search google for the philips player you bought and post a link here, knowing what it can/cannot do will help provide advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭naughtysmurf




  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,423 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    Ok, straight away there's a problem. The mp3 player you bought doesn't support the type of file apple uses in their itunes store. It is possible to convert the files to a type that your mp3 player does support but as you're not a wizz on the laptop it might be more convenient in the long run to return the mp3 player to argos and look instead at buying one that supports the itunes music store format, known as AAC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭naughtysmurf


    Well, will have to learn how to convert files then because I have opened the packaging to charge the unit.

    It comes with 'songbird' the philips music management system which I have installed on the laptop also although itunes is the default

    Another option would be to recommend an alternative to itunes I could use for the type of pop music a 7yr old would like


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,423 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    Well, will have to learn how to convert files then because I have opened the packaging to charge the unit.

    It comes with 'songbird' the philips music management system which I have installed on the laptop also although itunes is the default

    Another option would be to recommend an alternative to itunes I could use for the type of pop music a 7yr old would like

    Argos are good with returns/exchanges so it's likely you could get it changed, but if you want to plough ahead you can convert the itunes tracks from within itunes itself.

    The below advice comes from my use of itunes on a mac, i'm guessing you're using windows so some phrases may be different on the windows version.

    First you'll have to change some settings. Open itunes. Click on File-> Preferences. Under the "General" tab there should be a clickable item called "import settings", click it and it will open up a new window.

    In the new window you should see something labelled "import Using", change this to "MP3 encoder". Below that there's something called "setting", change that to "higher quality"

    Now that you've done that you can click on ok on both windows, you're itunes is ready to convert.

    Before you start converting full out, highlight a few tracks to test it on - just to make sure it's all going to work and so you know for yourself how long the conversion process will take.
    Right-click on the highlighted tracks, this will bring up a menu of option, in this menu you should see "create MP3 version", click it, conversion should start.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭naughtysmurf


    Mactard wrote: »
    Argos are good with returns/exchanges so it's likely you could get it changed, but if you want to plough ahead you can convert the itunes tracks from within itunes itself.

    The below advice comes from my use of itunes on a mac, i'm guessing you're using windows so some phrases may be different on the windows version.

    First you'll have to change some settings. Open itunes. Click on File-> Preferences. Under the "General" tab there should be a clickable item called "import settings", click it and it will open up a new window.

    In the new window you should see something labelled "import Using", change this to "MP3 encoder". Below that there's something called "setting", change that to "higher quality"

    Now that you've done that you can click on ok on both windows, you're itunes is ready to convert.

    Before you start converting full out, highlight a few tracks to test it on - just to make sure it's all going to work and so you know for yourself how long the conversion process will take.
    Right-click on the highlighted tracks, this will bring up a menu of option, in this menu you should see "create MP3 version", click it, conversion should start.

    Yep, using windows 7. Argos don't take anything back that has memory I believe, something to do with data protection.

    Thanks for the advice, one question, do I change the settings back after I download music for her so I can use my ipod as normal or leave these new settings for good

    Thanks again


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,423 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.



    Yep, using windows 7. Argos don't take anything back that has memory I believe, something to do with data protection.

    Thanks for the advice, one question, do I change the settings back after I download music for her so I can use my ipod as normal or leave these new settings for good

    Thanks again

    There's no need, unless you rip CDs using iTunes, the settings you're changing also affect that.

    Once you're confident that you've the conversion options setup and running we'll work out getting those files onto the Philips device.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭naughtysmurf


    Mactard wrote: »
    There's no need, unless you rip CDs using iTunes, the settings you're changing also affect that.

    Once you're confident that you've the conversion options setup and running we'll work out getting those files onto the Philips device.

    I'm confident I have those conversion options set up now, thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭qrrgprgua


    Why did you buy a Philips mp3 player? apple have ipods starting at 49 euros.. (or less on ebay)

    you can burn music to CD form itunes and convert it to the new players.. bit of a pain but can be done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭naughtysmurf


    qrrgprgua wrote: »
    Why did you buy a Philips mp3 player? apple have ipods starting at 49 euros.. (or less on ebay)

    you can burn music to CD form itunes and convert it to the new players.. bit of a pain but can be done.

    Mainly because the user is 7yrs old & wanted a device with a display she could read & use easily


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭naughtysmurf


    :D

    Turns out it was handy enough....Philips songbird has an option to import playlists from itunes, just had to save the itunes playlist I wanted to import to the philips mp3 player as an M3U file and then import it

    Thanks for the help all the same

    Should I restore the original settings on itunes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    The iTunes settings you altered only have an effect on what iTunes does when you either convert files from one format to another, such as AAC -> MP3 or CD -> MP3, ie 'ripping' tracks from a CD.

    So If you dont regularly do these conversions, there is no need to alter the settings back. The worst that would happen is you convert or rip to MP3 - which can be played on your iPod anyway.

    AAC is technically a slightly superior format to MP3, but MP3 is more universally supported so, leaving the setting as they are might be advantageous if, for instance, you want to rip songs or an audio book from a CD to put on your daughters player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Elliesky


    I have an ipod & I use itunes, have bought a philips mp3 player for my daughters birthday
    I want to be able to buy & download songs via itunes for her and have some songs on it for her by Saturday morning so need to know how to do this kind of urgently :(

    I'm not a wizz on the laptop so even a link to a step by step guide to doing this that I can print off and follow would be great, I came across one recently on boards, think it was a currys link but for the life of me can't find it again, please help

    Thanks

    iTunes is exclusively Apple-based, you need to convert those files to common mp3 to transfer them to other non-ipod device, you can easily do this by burning the playlists to CD and then rip them back using the iTunes CD burning and ripping function.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭naughtysmurf


    Elliesky wrote: »
    iTunes is exclusively Apple-based, you need to convert those files to common mp3 to transfer them to other non-ipod device, you can easily do this by burning the playlists to CD and then rip them back using the iTunes CD burning and ripping function.

    See post #12, there is no need to do this.

    Just a guess but I'd say some non apple mp3 makers are obviously including software to enable easy importing of songs from itunes to their own devices


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