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Ukraine Embassy Protest - This Wednesday July 4th

  • 02-07-2012 10:18pm
    #1
    Annasopra
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    Embassy of Ukraine in Ireland, 16 Elgin Rd, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4

    A protest will take place outside the Ukrainian Embassy in Dublin on Wednesday, July 4th at 6.30pm against the proposed homophobic laws currently being proposed in that country. The protest is being and supported by several LGBT groups in Dublin

    See more information on why the protest has been called here


    http://www.ilga-europe.org/home/guide/country_by_country/ukraine/open_letter_about_the_adoption_a_ban_of_homosexuality_promotion

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • #2
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    krainian Embassy
    Bill # 8711 proposes:
    1. To ban any production or publication of products promoting homosexuality;
    2. To ban the use of media, TV or radio broadcasting for homosexuality promotion;
    3. To ban printing or distribution publications promoting pornography, cult of violence and cruelty or homosexuality;
    4. To ban import, production or distribution of creative writings, cinematography or video materials promoting homosexuality.

    Bill # 10290 determines the forms of homosexuality promotion as follows:
    1. holding meetings, parades, actions, pickets, demonstrations and other mass gatherings, which are directed to and/or are expressed in intentional dissemination of any positive information about homosexuality, which may negatively influence physical and mental health, moral and spiritual growth of children;
    2. holding educational lessons, thematic conversations, interactive games, optional classes, other educational events on homosexuality;
    3. messages, articles or appeals spreading in any form the call for homosexual lifestyle in mass media, which may negatively influence physical and mental health, moral and spiritual growth of children;
    4. spreading information in any form about homosexuality or of the call for homosexual lifestyle in institution of general education, which may negatively influence physical and mental health, moral and spiritual growth of children.

    If adopted, the laws will introduce steep fines (up to 100 net minimum incomes or 300 net minimum incomes) or imprisonment up to five years for “homosexual propaganda”.

    Considering the abovementioned and to guarantee the rights of LGBT people in Ukraine, we urge European institutions and organizations to openly demonstrate your support and commitment and to take measures to protest the bills adoption. We propose to hold “Stop Homophobia in Ukraine” action in front of the buildings of Embassies of Ukraine in your states on July 2 or 3.
    Ukraine

    Tuesday, June 12, 2012

    Mykolayiv Association for Gays, Lesbians and Bisexuals ‘LiGA’

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #3
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,102 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Is this to be a placards at the gates type protest or will it involve shouting?


  • #4
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Probably just placards and not much shouting. Not 100% sure yet.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #5
    Pedant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Pedant


    Ukraine is during into a right fascist dictatorship, what with this and the opposition leader and former prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko being imprisoned.


  • #6
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Map here: https://maps.google.ie/maps?q=16+elgin+road+ballsbridge...&z=16

    Bus routes to the Embassy (bus stop 415)are:
    120 Towards Parnell St.
    18 Towards Sandymount
    4 Towards Monkstown Avenue
    7 Towards Loughlinstown / Cherrywood
    8 Towards Dalkey

    Nearest Dart stop: Lansdowne Road

    We will be handing a letter of protest into the Embassy for the attention of the Ukrainian ambassador.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • #7
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Map here: https://maps.google.ie/maps?q=16+elgin+road+ballsbridge&hl=en&hnear=16+Elgin+Rd,+Droichead+Na+Dothra,+Dublin+4&gl=ie&t=m&z=16

    Bus routes to the Embassy (bus stop 415)are:
    120 Towards Parnell St.
    18 Towards Sandymount
    4 Towards Monkstown Avenue
    7 Towards Loughlinstown / Cherrywood
    8 Towards Dalkey

    Nearest Dart stop: Lansdowne Road

    We will be handing a letter of protest into the Embassy for the attention of the Ukrainian ambassador.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #8
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    bump

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #9
    1ZRed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    I was on grindr last night and there was a link to the petition against this. I signed it and left a comment. Did my bit.

    At the time they had 91k signatures and they need 150k. I think they'll get them all though.


  • #10
    BobCobb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭BobCobb


    Just read about this now and signed the petition too.
    The number who have signed is around 120,000.
    It sounds like a horrible piece of legislation.


  • #11
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    The petition is here.

    It's always mad when a relatively modern country pulls this kind of nonsense, You'd expect in from theocracies but not from a fairly secular country with aspirations to a appear modern.

    Is this really a vote puller over there?


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