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Trying to source best indoor UHF aerial

  • 27-06-2012 11:29pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭


    Im really near the spur hill tower in cork, direct line of sight and only a few miles away, so im hoping to use an indoor aerial and pick up a saorview box.

    Could anybody reccomend the best indoor aerial it will be in the room near the tv, for me im having a hard time picking one out online , and im not sure are the ones on amazon.co.uk that great.

    If anybody could point me to one i would be greatful thanks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    Im really near the spur hill tower in cork, direct line of sight and only a few miles away, so im hoping to use an indoor aerial and pick up a saorview box.

    Could anybody reccomend the best indoor aerial it will be in the room near the tv, for me im having a hard time picking one out online , and im not sure are the ones on amazon.co.uk that great.

    If anybody could point me to one i would be greatful thanks.

    It must be near a window to work properly, preferably a window cill.

    The best I have tested and the one I use is a Funke. The cable is long and powers off the box (providing it gives Active Antenna power support +5V, most boxes do).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭lawhec


    STB wrote: »
    It must be near a window to work properly, preferably a window cill.

    The best I have tested and the one I use is a Funke. The cable is long and powers off the box (providing it gives Active Antenna power support +5V, most boxes do).

    That aerial is designed for the Dutch Digitenne service which uses a SFN which is vertically polarised. If you plan to receive Saorview from a transmitter whose signals are vertically polarised e.g. Collins Barracks, then it might be useful, but it might prove awkward to use for horizontal signals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    lawhec wrote: »
    That aerial is designed for the Dutch Digitenne service which uses a SFN which is vertically polarised. If you plan to receive Saorview from a transmitter whose signals are vertically polarised e.g. Collins Barracks, then it might be useful, but it might prove awkward to use for horizontal signals.

    I hear where you are coming from but doesnt that only applies to those vertical rod design type aerial.

    I have tested this in Horizontal environments, both Three Rock and Mt Leinster neither sitting under the TX ! :)

    This aerial is marketed all over Europe. I actually received it as a sample along with a few others that were tested. This outperformed them all, it has a gain that varies between 8/18db. The fact that it powers off the receiver in one less plug also.

    Of course people out in the middle of the countryside should be using outdoor aerials but in main tx, indoor aerial, no problem.

    I wouldnt suggest it only I have extensively tested a lot of these.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭lawhec


    STB wrote: »
    I hear where you are coming from but doesnt that only applies to those vertical rod design type aerial.

    I have tested this in Horizontal environments, both Three Rock and Mt Leinster neither sitting under the TX ! :)

    This aerial is marketed all over Europe. I actually received it as a sample along with a few others that were tested. This outperformed them all, it has a gain that varies between 8/18db. The fact that it powers off the receiver in one less plug also.

    Of course people out in the middle of the countryside should be using outdoor aerials but in main tx, indoor aerial, no problem.

    I wouldnt suggest it only I have extensively tested a lot of these.
    I said nothing about the use of indoor/outdoor aerials, just simply pointing out that the Funke indoor aerial in question is designed for the the Dutch DTT network which is all vertically polarised and unlike Saorview, is designed in mind for portable and indoor reception. The dimensions of the aerial make it too narrow in its pictured position to have a horizontal polarised element. Many types of aerials like this which are designed for the Digitenne service are designed in a similar fashion and contain an amp that can be powered by a 5V supply that a receiver can supply. If the aerial can receive horizontally polarised signals in its standard position, it's probably the case that the received signal is strong enough to overcome the cross-polarisation rejection.

    In the case of the OP, they are looking to receive from Spur Hill which is horizontally polarised and by their description they can see the mast if "line of sight" means that. If that's the case, a small yagi or log-periodic style aerial on a window sill pointing at the transmitter will probably be enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    lawhec wrote: »
    I said nothing about the use of indoor/outdoor aerials, just simply pointing out that the Funke indoor aerial in question is designed for the the Dutch DTT network which is all vertically polarised and unlike Saorview, is designed in mind for portable and indoor reception. The dimensions of the aerial make it too narrow in its pictured position to have a horizontal polarised element. Many types of aerials like this which are designed for the Digitenne service are designed in a similar fashion and contain an amp that can be powered by a 5V supply that a receiver can supply. If the aerial can receive horizontally polarised signals in its standard position, it's probably the case that the received signal is strong enough to overcome the cross-polarisation rejection.

    In the case of the OP, they are looking to receive from Spur Hill which is horizontally polarised and by their description they can see the mast if "line of sight" means that. If that's the case, a small yagi or log-periodic style aerial on a window sill pointing at the transmitter will probably be enough.
    Thanks for the info , could you point me in the right direction of such an aerial ? preferably one with a long cable so i can put it in the window ? :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭rurs


    Thanks for the info , could you point me in the right direction of such an aerial ? preferably one with a long cable so i can put it in the window ? :D

    Something like this or this.

    If you're sure you're in a very strong signal area, one of these might work, you can find them in €2 shops.

    You'll probably need to buy a longer lead separately, CPC have good range, with a plug on one end, socket on the other eg a 5m one.
    Maybe one of your local shops would have something similar., but try to avoid back to back connectors, the less links in the chain the better.


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