The mentalist- who is red John

EoghanIRL

Hey, I've been very addicted to the mentalist since it started. I think it's great. Just wondering does anyone else watch it. If you do who do you think red John is?

votecounts

If u watch the finale of the third series you'd know the answer?

RUCKING FETARD

Spoilers?

votecounts wrote: »

If u watch the finale of the third series you'd know the answer?

No (s)he wouldn't.

I'm watching this on RTE (I don't really like the show) so halfway through S4 and I think it's Luther Wainwright.




Simon Baker has said (something like) that the show will drag on so long that the actors will need walking aides and we still won't know who red john is.

curry-muff

votecounts wrote: »

If u watch the finale of the third series you'd know the answer?

I'm up to date and I have no idea who it is, I have suspicions, but as we've seen before, more and more of our suspicions get ruled out throughout each season.

We will never actually know who Red John is until the final episode.

Ludo

It is Jane himself...gotta be doesn't it? Or is that way too obvious?

Anyway as previous poster said...won't know until final episode if at all (probably be cancelled before the reveal).

Mr E

All theories (and counters) here: http://www.whoisredjohn.com/

I still think it's Patrick Jane. Hopefully the series lasts long enough for the revelation.

CastorTroy

I can't see that site from work, but a guess of mine was the psychic that Jane had a bit of a thing with who was kidnapped. Was she ruled out?

I think they should reveal Red John then move on to another mystery. But I suppose they don't do that because they'll probably lose all the viewers that are just watching for the Red John mystery

Macca07

The story about Jane and Red John is the show, if they reveal who it is they might as well finish it.

I think it'll be revealed in the final season, whenever that will be. I'd say the writers might not have even decided yet.

EoghanIRL

It is possible that Jane could be red John.

Sandwlch

Jane is Red John.
Lisbon knows this and he was stationed with her so that she could trap him and convict. Jane doesnt know that she knows. Yet. The dynamic becomes interesting in the next series when he finds out she does know. But she doesnt know he knows she knows. In the following one, she does find out he knows, and cat and mouse game continues. 3 or 4 years left in it.

RUCKING FETARD

Ludo wrote: »

It is Jane himself...gotta be doesn't it? Or is that way too obvious?

Anyway as previous poster said...won't know until final episode if at all (probably be cancelled before the reveal).

Mr E wrote: »

All theories (and counters) here: http://www.whoisredjohn.com/

I still think it's Patrick Jane. Hopefully the series lasts long enough for the revelation.

EoghanIRL wrote: »

It is possible that Jane could be red John.

Sandwlch wrote: »

Jane is Red John.
Lisbon knows this and he was stationed with her so that she could trap him and convict. Jane doesnt know that she knows. Yet. The dynamic becomes interesting in the next series when he finds out she does know. But she doesnt know he knows she knows. In the following one, she does find out he knows, and cat and mouse game continues. 3 or 4 years left in it.

No.

They were in that ep together in Season 3 where RJ read that poem or verse or whatever it was after saving Janes life.

RJ had that plastic looking black mask on.

CastorTroy

You sure? Could be a Fight Club type thing.

Whoever it is I hope that it makes sense when they reveal him/her and that's it's someone we've already met.

RUCKING FETARD

CastorTroy wrote: »

You sure? Could be a Fight Club type thing.

Whoever it is I hope that it makes sense when they reveal him/her and that's it's someone we've already met.

Yep, this ep.

And remember at the end of Season 1 RJ did a runner from that abandoned house, their was a blind girl that knew his smell or something like that.


They def can't write it that jane is john, not unless they rename the series The Mentalost.

CastorTroy

Another reason that the writers, at least, would need to know who Red John is is so they don't do something like reveal Lisbon was Red John, even though there was a scene where Lisbon was nowhere near a place Red John struck.

Marty09

Hi,
Only got into The Mentalist recently during the current season shown on Thursdays on RTE 1 ...just ended last week.

Could someone let me know what season this was 3?/ 4?

Also, the repeats RTE 2 are showing late on Tuesday nights Weds am ..what season are these?

Stevecw

Marty09 wrote: »

Hi,
Only got into The Mentalist recently during the current season shown on Thursdays on RTE 1 ...just ended last week.

Could someone let me know what season this was 3?/ 4?

Also, the repeats RTE 2 are showing late on Tuesday nights Weds am ..what season are these?

The one that ended on RTE last week was season 4. No idea about the repeats as haven't seen those.

Marty09

Stevecw wrote: »

The one that ended on RTE last week was season 4. No idea about the repeats as haven't seen those.

Thanks Stevecw...would be good if RTE gave what season it was on the programme info in the listings.
As I'm new to The Mentalist these could be any season 1 to 4!
Think I'll probably end up getting the box-set to catch up.

Stevecw

Marty09 wrote: »

Thanks Stevecw...would be good if RTE gave what season it was on the programme info in the listings.
As I'm new to The Mentalist these could be any season 1 to 4!
Think I'll probably end up getting the box-set to catch up.

No bother, well worth watching from the start.
Don't need to buy a boxset tho, can easily watch them online. I'll send u a pm with the link I use, as not allowed post them here!

jimmyw

I thought Red John was the killer of Jane's wife and child, no?

CastorTroy

jimmyw wrote: »

I thought Red John was the killer of Jane's wife and child, no?

Yes, and that's why the investigation is so personal to Jane

EoghanIRL

Marty09 wrote: »

Hi,
Only got into The Mentalist recently during the current season shown on Thursdays on RTE 1 ...just ended last week.

Could someone let me know what season this was 3?/ 4?

Also, the repeats RTE 2 are showing late on Tuesday nights Weds am ..what season are these?

The finale was brilliant

Kirby

It's Rigsby.

In a show like this, the biggest pay off comes from the villain being one of the main characters all allong and the many clues and misdirections that the viewers see's along the way. So it could be any of the main cast but my money is on him. No chance it's Lisbon or Cho.

If it's not Rigsby, outside shot at Van Pelt. Me thinks the whole "broken up about shooting my boyfriend" bit was laid on very thick and could be designed to avert suspicion. But I would still go with Rigsby.

Icarus Wings

Marty09 wrote: »

Hi,
Only got into The Mentalist recently during the current season shown on Thursdays on RTE 1 ...just ended last week.

Could someone let me know what season this was 3?/ 4?

Also, the repeats RTE 2 are showing late on Tuesday nights Weds am ..what season are these?

Hey Marty! The series that ended last week on RTE 1 (Thursday nights) was Season 4.

The repeats on Tuesday nights are all part of Season 3 and are currently the earliest episodes in that season.

They repeated Season 2 late on Friday nights last year when Season 3 finished.

Marty09

Icarus Wings wrote: »

Hey Marty! The series that ended last week on RTE 1 (Thursday nights) was Season 4.

The repeats on Tuesday nights are all part of Season 3 and are currently the earliest episodes in that season.

They repeated Season 2 late on Friday nights last year when Season 3 finished.

Thanks for reply Icarus Wings,
think I need to start catching up from Season 1 so might give the season 3 repeats a miss for now.

False Prophet

Kirby wrote: »

It's Rigsby.

In a show like this, the biggest pay off comes from the villain being one of the main characters all allong and the many clues and misdirections that the viewers see's along the way. So it could be any of the main cast but my money is on him. No chance it's Lisbon or Cho.

If it's not Rigsby, outside shot at Van Pelt. Me thinks the whole "broken up about shooting my boyfriend" bit was laid on very thick and could be designed to avert suspicion. But I would still go with Rigsby.

I think its Van pelt (she has got the right hair color;)).
Or Van pelt is red john daughter(Jane deduce during the first season she is hiding some deep emotional trauma)
Outside bet is Alex Jane

EoghanIRL

Anyone else still watching the mentalist . I am and was wondering does anyone have any new ideas who red John is now !

xzx

Stopped watching, will watch the reveal if their ever is one.

As mentioned earlier, they should have finished it off and moved on to another story.

They ruined it big time.

EoghanIRL

xzx wrote: »

Stopped watching, will watch the reveal if their ever is one.

As mentioned earlier, they should have finished it off and moved on to another story.

They ruined it big time.

I kind of agree . The newest season has been disappointing big time .

tommy2bad

It was always light TV, not to be taken seriously. The Mentalist is more like murder she wrote than like the following.
I still enjoy the simple stories and the way they work rather than the Red John thing which is only a premises to keep Jane in the CBI anyway.
For what it's worth Van Pelt would be a good choice but for the fact that we have been told that Jane only met Red John once. Current season implies that Red John is a person of interest to HS which brings the trope of Gov agent into the mix.

Sandwlch

They let the cat out of the bag there.
I knew Jane was Red John.

yohan the great

Sandwlch wrote: »

They let the cat out of the bag there.
I knew Jane was Red John.

What? I wasn't really paying attention but I had it on.

tommy2bad

yohan the great wrote: »

What? I wasn't really paying attention but I had it on.

He going by the idea that RJ knew both the list of RJ suspects and Jane's hidden memories. The draw back is that none of RJ's proxies recognized him.
I think they are just keeping the options open. Bet RJ turns out to be someone not shown already.

CastorTroy

Maybe update the OP with a "Spoilers" tag?

I think the obvious choice now is

Homeland Security guy, unless he's working for RJ. Of course, as someone said, Jane could have a split personality and this is how RJ knows so much about him

Oh and news for season 6 about

cast departure

as

Rigsby and Van Pelt leave
http://tvline.com/2013/08/06/amanda-righetti-owain-yeoman-leaving-the-mentalist-season-6/

tommy2bad

CastorTroy wrote: »

Maybe update the OP with a "Spoilers" tag?

I think the obvious choice now is

Homeland Security guy, unless he's working for RJ. Of course, as someone said, Jane could have a split personality and this is how RJ knows so much about him

Oh and news for season 6 about

cast departure

as

Rigsby and Van Pelt leave
http://tvline.com/2013/08/06/amanda-righetti-owain-yeoman-leaving-the-mentalist-season-6/

Nooooooo!

The whole point of the mentalist is so I can enjoy VanPelt while herself oggles Jane

JP Liz V1

If not Jane then either McAllister or Partridge