Crashed into a steel barrier that was coming up from the ground

Flanella

I was exiting a graveyard last Wednesday when i got an awful bang to my car. I didnt know what had happened until i got out & there was a lad standing there with a remote control, he had pressed the button to raise the steel barrier that caused a lot of damage to my car, i didnt know that this barrier was here until i seen the damage. He said he didnt think i was coming that way as there was a right turn back into the graveyard car park, he had let a lady drive in that way & i gave her way then continued on to where she came from. He pressed the button to raise the bollard back to its original position. My car has damage to the bumper, radiator, gear box & Steering bar. There was a sign that a barrier is in operation but i didnt think the bollard was raising as it was only raising as i drove over it. Does anyone think i have a leg to stand on with insuarance ? I called the Gardai, took photos & reported it to my insurance company.

Wexfordian

Flanella wrote: »

I was exiting a graveyard last Wednesday when i got an awful bang to my car. I didnt know what had happened until i got out & there was a lad standing there with a remote control, he had pressed the button to raise the steel barrier that caused a lot of damage to my car, i didnt know that this barrier was here until i seen the damage. He said he didnt think i was coming that way as there was a right turn back into the graveyard car park, he had let a lady drive in that way & i gave her way then continued on to where she came from. He pressed the button to raise the bollard back to its original position. My car has damage to the bumper, radiator, gear box & Steering bar. There was a sign that a barrier is in operation but i didnt think the bollard was raising as it was only raising as i drove over it. Does anyone think i have a leg to stand on with insuarance ? I called the Gardai, took photos & reported it to my insurance company.

Was it a road or enterance that you would have had a reasonable expectation you could go down? You weren't trying to enter a exit or go down a one way incorrectly?

Flanella

Wexfordian wrote: »

Was it a road or enterance that you would have had a reasonable expectation you could go down? You weren't trying to enter a exit or go down a one way incorrectly?

It was a lane way and the arrow was pointing the way i was going, the manager said i shouldnt have gone that way but there was nothing to tell me different.

Tigger

If there is really no sign and the barrier is really manual rather than auto then I would be at the doctor for the crippling pain in my spine and neck

Shakti

I would guess that you are, covered that is, what sort of policy do you have?

MugMugs

Flanella wrote: »

It was a lane way and the arrow was pointing the way i was going, the manager said i shouldnt have gone that way but there was nothing to tell me different.

Personally I cannot see how they can defend this. They're stuffed tbh.

They operated the barrier as you were driving through. It's their fault.

Cookie_Monster

Tigger wrote: »

If there is really no sign and the barrier is really manual rather than auto then I would be at the doctor for the crippling pain in my spine and neck

:rolleyes:
:mad:

Flanella

Shakti wrote: »

I would guess that you are, covered that is, what sort of policy do you have?

I have comprehensive, i am covered but worried about the cost on my policy in the long run if it goes against me

SweetCaliber

If it was just a lane with no signs warning you of bollards or telling you no entry etc.. then your not at fault and should proceed to get compensated and get your car fixed at their cost.

It's their fault for the lack of signs/warnings.

Tigger

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

:rolleyes:
:mad:

Eat my cookie

Flanella

MugMugs wrote: »

Personally I cannot see how they can defend this. They're stuffed tbh.

They operated the barrier as you were driving through. It's their fault.

Thanks, i hope you are right, i should get legal advice then

Duiske

Tigger wrote: »

If there is really no sign and the barrier is really manual rather than auto then I would be at the doctor for the crippling pain in my spine and neck

What in the first post gave you the impression that the op is suffering from crippling injuries ?

Shakti

Flanella wrote: »

I have comprehensive, i am covered but worried about the cost on my policy in the long run if it goes against me

I understand, it's sounds like the graveyard is at fault and covered no doubt for this as well, main thing is you are insured, your premium might rise but compared to not being insured or covered it will be minimal. Sorry by the way for your troubles could happen to anyone.

SweetCaliber

Duiske wrote: »

What in the first post gave you the impression that the op is suffering from crippling injuries ?

I think he meant that he would pretend to have serious injuries so that he could get great compensation methinks :rolleyes:

MugMugs

Flanella wrote: »

Thanks, i hope you are right, i should get legal advice then

Legal Advice costs money. You've already paid your Insurer. Let them work this.

You've a few options here.

The two main ones are:

You can claim from your policy and ask your insurer to go after the other party for the bill. This WILL affect your policy until they recover their costs.

You can claim from the other side. This could take a while though and I can't imagine they're going to be quick admitting liability.

Give your insurer a chance and if they are worth their salt they will make this painless. If it's becoming a problem then PM me and I'll give you a few names of utter b45tards of Solicitors for you to go to and chase the Graveyards Insurer. Your own Insurer should have their own panel they can refer you to aswell.

As already stated, IF you are injured then you can claim for this too. I don't condone claiming if not injured but if you are and it's a problem then know your rights.

Tigger

Go in high and let them haggle

Guy:Incognito

Duiske wrote: »

What in the first post gave you the impression that the op is suffering from crippling injuries ?

These lads' ad on telly mixed with greed I'd say (not the OP)

http://www.injurylawyers4u.co.uk/

bijapos

Tigger wrote: »

If there is really no sign and the barrier is really manual rather than auto then I would be at the doctor for the crippling pain in my spine and neck

Tigger wrote: »

Go in high and let them haggle

Nice. It's that kind of retarted attitude that has me paying the same for insurance in Ireland in my early 40's as I was paying in Germany 15 years ago. Claim away and let the rest of us pay with higher insurance premiums. :mad::mad::mad:

mickdw

The chap operated the bollard without the care that was required. A decent solicitor would rip them apart on this. You were going the right way and saw the way to be clear yet the guy saw fit to activate the bollard.

Anything like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCSsope5vOA

knifey_spoonie

homer simpson

Tigger wrote: »

If there is really no sign and the barrier is really manual rather than auto then I would be at the doctor for the crippling pain in my spine and neck

And I bet you are the chief moaner when you get your renewal quote every year saying "they are bloody rip of merchants" :rolleyes:

Tigger

bijapos wrote: »

Nice. It's that kind of retarted attitude that has me paying the same for insurance in Ireland in my early 40's as I was paying in Germany 15 years ago. Claim away and let the rest of us pay with higher insurance premiums. :mad::mad::mad:

I doubt that manual bollards killing cars did that you who also has a retarded attitude

Tigger

homer_simpson wrote: »

And I bet you are the chief moaner when you get your renewal quote every year saying "they are bloody rip of merchants" :rolleyes:

No but Ive never had a pole jump
Out of the ground at me

Weylin

get back there fast and take loads of photos of road,signs,arrows, entrance signs.or lack of same........cos they will put them up now that an accident has happened. u will have to prove that they were not there..............

Cuddlesworth

mickdw wrote: »

Anything like this:
youtuby video

Worst part about that video is the first car could have easily mounted the curb to its left and squeezed past the bollards.

Pique

Weylin wrote: »

get back there fast and take loads of photos of road,signs,arrows, entrance signs.or lack of same........cos they will put them up now that an accident has happened. u will have to prove that they were not there..............

+1
Definitely do this!!!

If they put up signs tomorrow that should have been there today, and they refuse to play ball, the insurance investigator will visit the scene and determine (incorrectly) that you were in the wrong.

Take pictures of the entire scene. Long range and close up. Get ones with a car (if you can borrow one) in the same location to show scale and so on.

Camera phones are worth their weight in gold at times like this.

T-Maxx

Reminds me of this thread from a couple of years ago.

Markcheese

Not really sure why anybody came up with these automatic bollards... Lots to clog up / break down , more expensive to buy / install and the risk that a car gets whacked ect. All so no-one has to bend down for a few seconds...
What I suppose the Bollard just jumped up and hit you?? Well....yeah .....

tobsey

I'm 99% sure this is Glasnevin Cemetery that the OP is taking about. There are plenty of signs to state that bollards are in operation and there is definately one right beside the bollard itself. The driver should have turned into the car park immediately before the barrier. They only allow cars pass the bollard if there are people with mobility issues in the car.

I'm not saying you shouldn't try making a case against the cemetery if there is substantial damage. I'd just be annoyed that the hundreds of people who gave money to the cemetery last Sunday would have it wasted be something like this.

Also the "CLAIM FOR IT" brigade in this thread are pretty despicable.

ThisRegard

T-Maxx wrote: »

Reminds me of this thread from a couple of years ago.

The one that happened in Blanchardstown, the car was a BMW driven by a woman and practically every single poster on the thread said the driver was something along the lines of a stupid bitch ?

That thread was one of the low points of the motors forum.

Gumbo

tobsey wrote: »

Also the "CLAIM FOR IT" brigade in this thread are pretty despicable.

you do realise that out of the many replies, only ONE person has made a remark on claiming for injuries...... Hardly a brigade in my humble opinion......