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Great website dealing with the rise of the Antichrist's One World Religion.

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  • #2
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    This is the guy who says we should use hallucingoenic drugs to become close to God


  • #3
    Daithi 1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Daithi 1


    kryogen wrote: »
    This is the guy who says we should use hallucingoenic drugs to become close to God

    Sounds good to me ! :)


  • #4
    im invisible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    What is the actual conspiracy here OP?

    ;/)


  • #5
    HamletOrHecuba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭HamletOrHecuba


    kryogen wrote: »
    This is the guy who says we should use hallucingoenic drugs to become close to God

    No Lee Penn does not say that.

    He is a conservative Eastern Rite Catholic.


  • #6
    HamletOrHecuba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭HamletOrHecuba


    im invisible wrote: »
    What is the actual conspiracy here OP?

    ;/)

    The conspiracy is obviously that about forces both human and nonhuman behind the scenes conspiring to facilitate the rise to power of the kingdom of the antichrist. Looked at from a Patristic/Biblical view point its obvious that in their own small way many in "contemporary Christianity" are already partisans of the Antichrist; we are being told by leading "Churchmen" that "Spirituality is the greatest enemy of Justice", this should warn us that the Antichrist is at the door.


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  • #7
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    HamletOrHecuba wrote: »
    No Lee Penn does not say that.

    He is a conservative Eastern Rite Catholic.

    Google it my friend, google it.


  • #8
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    im invisible wrote: »
    What is the actual conspiracy here OP?

    ;/)

    It's another in a long line of threads designed to "no true scotsman" the catholic church clean away from any blame for any wrong doing that it's been involved in.

    Freemasons, "satanists" and anyone else he can think of. By fuck there won't be responsibility taken while there still someone out there to try and pin the blame on.


  • #9
    Corkfeen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    HamletOrHecuba wrote: »
    No Lee Penn does not say that.

    He is a conservative Eastern Rite Catholic.

    Hmm... This seems to prove otherwise. Did you actually read the stuff on the site or are you merely picking up on random points for your rather clear agenda....:pac:
    http://www.leepenn.org/LP-entheogen.html


  • #10
    HamletOrHecuba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭HamletOrHecuba


    Corkfeen wrote: »
    Hmm... This seems to prove otherwise. Did you actually read the stuff on the site or are you merely picking up on random points for your rather clear agenda....:pac:
    http://www.leepenn.org/LP-entheogen.html

    "We are left with several conclusions, all of which demonstrate the workings of the "mystery of iniquity:""

    He isnt defending their use at all, he is merely collecting quotes of others approving this and taking it as read that such use is evil.


  • #11
    HamletOrHecuba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭HamletOrHecuba


    hooradiation wrote: »
    It's another in a long line of threads designed to "no true scotsman" the catholic church clean away from any blame for any wrong doing that it's been involved in.

    Freemasons, "satanists" and anyone else he can think of. By fuck there won't be responsibility taken while there still someone out there to try and pin the blame on.

    The Church is the Immaculate Bride of Christ washed clean in His Precious Blood.

    Unfortunately most of what today is called the Church has nothing to do with the Church.

    Prophets of the Antichrist like Peter McVerry having sucked out all the truelly Christian content are using the form of the Church to prepare the way for the satan's seeming triumph.


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  • #12
    HamletOrHecuba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭HamletOrHecuba


    kryogen wrote: »
    This is the guy who says we should use hallucingoenic drugs to become close to God

    The Implications - Religious and Sociopolitical
    We are left with several conclusions, all of which demonstrate the workings of the "mystery of iniquity:"

    --- Some liberal religious and New Age enthusiasts, who appear to have learned nothing from the devastation that followed the drug explosion of the 1960s, still say that people can have authentic religious experiences by ingesting mind-bending chemicals. (Other liberals, including Bishop Swing, reject this idea with horror.)
    --- It remains for atheists and non-believers to draw a logical conclusion from the supporters of entheogens: if people can have a life-altering religious experience by tweaking their brain chemistry with a hallucinogen, then any experience of God is likewise an artifact of brain chemistry - and God is just an illusion.

    --- "Entheogens" can be a useful tool for inquisitors, torturers, brainwashers, and cult leaders - for anyone who is willing to override human reason and destroy liberty to obtain power. The aforementioned drug activities of the CIA - purportedly done to defend free nations against the Communists - are an instance of this.

    --- Governments are ordained to restrain evildoers (37) and to protect human rights. When governments promote a form of drug use that destroys human reason, they violate their own reason for existence, and destroy their own legitimacy. (38)

    Cop yourself on.


  • #13
    Monty Burnz
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    HamletOrHecuba wrote: »
    The Church is the Immaculate Bride of Christ washed clean in His Precious Blood.
    This is a matter of opinion to be honest. You might want to couch it in 'I believe' or 'some folks' believe.

    I'd say, objectively, the Church probably isn't the Immaculate Bride of Christ washed clean in His Precious Blood.


  • #14
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    HamletOrHecuba wrote: »
    Prophets of the Antichrist like Peter McVerry having sucked out all the truelly Christian content are using the form of the Church to prepare the way for the satan's seeming triumph.
    That would be the Peter McVerrey who has devoted himself to the poor and homeless? Rather than pontificating about morality from a comfortable seat in the Vatican or something?

    Yup, that's definitely not something Jesus would have done.


  • #15
    Corkfeen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    HamletOrHecuba wrote: »
    Prophets of the Antichrist like Peter McVerry having sucked out all the truelly Christian content are using the form of the Church to prepare the way for the satan's seeming triumph.
    That would be the Peter McVerrey who has devoted himself to the poor and homeless? Rather than pontificating about morality from a comfortable seat in the Vatican or something?

    Yup, that's definitely not something Jesus would have done.
    You'll find that Hamlet doesn't actually approve of charity. He simply prefers to condemn all because we're inherently evil etc....


  • #16
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Corkfeen wrote: »
    You'll find that Hamlet doesn't actually approve of charity. He simply prefers to condemn all because we're inherently evil etc....
    For some reason, I'm reminded of the phrase, '...and man created god in his own image'...


  • #17
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    HamletOrHecuba wrote: »
    The Church is the Immaculate Bride of Christ washed clean in His Precious Blood.

    Unfortunately most of what today is called the Church has nothing to do with the Church.

    Prophets of the Antichrist like Peter McVerry having sucked out all the truelly Christian content are using the form of the Church to prepare the way for the satan's seeming triumph.

    See, this right here.
    Perfect example of the kind of fallacy ridden nonsense I was on about.


  • #18
    CiaranMT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,092 ✭✭✭CiaranMT


    HamletOrHecuba wrote: »
    --- It remains for atheists and non-believers to draw a logical conclusion from the supporters of entheogens: if people can have a life-altering religious experience by tweaking their brain chemistry with a hallucinogen, then any experience of God is likewise an artifact of brain chemistry - and God is just an illusion.

    Don't have to be on yokes to figure that gods are an artifact of brain chemistry.


  • #19
    Priori
    Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭Priori


    HamletOrHecuba wrote: »
    --- It remains for atheists and non-believers to draw a logical conclusion from the supporters of entheogens: if people can have a life-altering religious experience by tweaking their brain chemistry with a hallucinogen, then any experience of God is likewise an artifact of brain chemistry - and God is just an illusion.

    That isn't a logical deduction, as it permits of a contrary conclusion. It is just as logically possible for hallicinogens to facilitate a certain configuration of brain chemistry/state of mind that allows experiences of that nature to pass through. That doesn't necessitate that these experiences are illusory, any more than the fact that some people on drugs synaesthesia means synaesthesia is likewise illusory.


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