ty vs 5th year

EoghanIRL

Are you doing transition year or 5th year next year and why ? If going to 5th year what subjects?

Im doing 5th year because in our school I feel ty is a waste of time. Lots of dossing and a year out of study. Also i prefer learning tbh. Whats ty like in your school? Next year im doing physics biology chemistry and applied maths. German also.

whoopsadaisy

Straight to 5th. My school doesn't offer a great TY program but tbh, I'd rather not spend the year dossing, I'd rather finish school that year earlier

I'll be doing Biology, Chemistry, Business, French and LCVP.

Layzerman

Our schools TY program looks good, but everyone who does it seems to regret it. I'll be doing 5th year with Biology Chemistry German Geography and LCVP.

spurious

TY very much depends on the group of students in it. It's very much aimed at those who get up and do a bit for themselves, not those who wait for the teachers to organise everything.

Statistically, those who do TY perform better in the LC, though that is possibly as much to do with being a year older than the other students than the work done in TY.

missguided

I did TY because we didn't have a choice, but it really depends on the standard of the TY course in your school. Some schools do nothing, and the students just end up being not motivated and find it hard to settle into fifth year.

I found it good to have a break after Junior Cert, and we experienced a lot throughout the year as well as starting on bits of the LC course. If your school has a bad TY or you're not really bothered with it, I'd suggest just going straight to fifth, one less year in school and you'll probably be able to settle in easier.

I'm going into fifth and doing Biology, Home Ec, Geography and German.

Kmgirl

I'm going straight into fifth year!..I'm doing Religion, Home Ec, Spanish and Biology. I'm doing higher level Irish and English. Pass Maths!

Pen Rua

My school can't cope with TY. First, we just don't have the space to facilitate it (700 pupils in a school built for 500, I once hear). And, there's the financial cost, too! But if I had the choice, I still wouldn't do it. I don't like the idea of having an extra year in school, and I fear I might lose my study skills/routines from JC. It suits some, it probably just wouldn't suit me. I hope to do LCVP, though!

I am going in to 5th year and doing; Accounting, Business, Geography and French as well as the usual (and Religion, but not as an exam subject in my school).

sara16

I'm going straight into 5th year because i feel that i would be too old leaving school if i did TY (16 already so i would be 19 finishing if i did it).. Also after talking to a few people i figured it would be a waste of time..
I chose : Business , accounting , geography , spanish +lcvp

ohsurelook

I'm doing TY basically cos it'd just be sickening to start the Leaving Cert course next year with no kind of break and cos it'd be brilliant to have a different kind of school life. break the monotony lioke

graeme157

Doing TY for no other reason than I'd be 16 leaving school if I don't.

ciaran138

Doing 5th year. In my school it'll be a small group as 45 out of 76 JC students are doing TY meaning a class of 31 for fifth year.
I'm doing History, Biology, Physics and Business. Taking a risk with business as I haven't done it before.

The House Of Wolves

I wanted to do TY - it's a new programme in my school so it's all very exciting and there have been positive reviews from current TYs. However, as only 20 could go in, I didn't manage to get in. So, 5th year it is. Taking English, Irish, maths, geography (wanted history but was the only one who did... :[), accounting, religion as a non-exam subject, biology and French. The only one of those that I am even remotely interested in is French. I'm not looking forward to 5th year

After that, it's looking to be a year working, as I'll be just shy of 17 when leaving school. Although the way the finances stretch, who knows even about uni?

Indiego

I'm just after finishing up TY, didn't enjoy it very much tbh, though that is completely down to the fact that I don't really enjoy the company of most of my year and I prefer academic based stuff cos I'm a big oul nerd It's compulsory in my school though, and I would have been 16 doing the leaving otherwise, so I didn't have a choice

Can't waiiiit for September tbh, I've missed being challenged in school (that seriously sounds so sad..:L) because we did feck all learning about anything this year XD

I shall be doing the troublesome three, business, biology, physics and Spanish Along with chemistry outside of school as a nonexam subject, just for the craic

EoghanIRL

Some schools have good ty program's. I agree with spurious however. You can't expect the teachers to do all the work. Also with the recession getting worse schools have access to less funding. This limits the program and what they can do with you. That's why I'm not doing it. I see the tys dossing and doing feck all every day. So I think it's not worth it. I have always preferred the academic side of school than socialising and work experience. I know it depends on the students as well. Some students need it. I don't necessarily agree that students who ty do better in the leaving cert thought.

bigbang.

I'm skipping ty, though i'll only be 16 doing the leaving! My school has a pretty bad ty program, it's basically just work experience and then a spanish exchange for anyone who can afford it Its also compulsory, which is why I'm moving to new school! :eek:
Im doing (all HL)-
English, Irish, Maths, Chemistry, Physics, Biology, Spanish and Japanese

Im so nervous for September hahah!

EoghanIRL

bigbang. wrote: »

I'm skipping ty, though i'll only be 16 doing the leaving! My school has a pretty bad ty program, it's basically just work experience and then a spanish exchange for anyone who can afford it Its also compulsory, which is why I'm moving to new school! :eek:
Im doing (all HL)-
English, Irish, Maths, Chemistry, Physics, Biology, Spanish and Japanese

Im so nervous for September hahah!

Unfortunately my school only offer the really basic subjects. Is Japanese hard Does your school offer it or do you do it outside of school?

bigbang.

EoghanIRL wrote: »

Unfortunately my school only offer the really basic subjects. Is Japanese hard Does your school offer it or do you do it outside of school?

ill be doing it in school, they offer it as like an extra subject so ill be missing religion class (wooo!) well ive never done it before but the teacher who does it said its basically learning the alphabet and not much detail beyond that! Hopefully it won't be too bad!

Cheerios

I'm doing TY but only because its compulsory. Although, I might have chosen it even if it wasn't. It seems TY in our school is pretty good. A lot of previous TY students recommend it. There is also a lot of trips and a lot of activities to do. There is even 2 trips organised already (1 week after we come back in September, another a week after).

Troxck

I'm doing TY because my school does actually offer good activities. My year is full of dossers so I wouldn't be surprised if they were cancelled.
Anyway, I have a chance of going to Zambia on an Immersion Project, you spend two weeks in Zambia helping the Christian Brothers. I also have a chance of a German exchange, I'd absolutely love this. I love German and two weeks there would be great. Unfortunately, these are very unlikely because my school is bias towards hurlers and sport players in general and my year's full of them.
Work experience was a major factor too, I think it's great that we have a chance to see if a job we may be interested in is available for us. Throughout the year there are many other activities, but a break would be nice after the JC:pac:

paddyzk

Troxck wrote: »

I'm doing TY because my school does actually offer good activities. My year is full of dossers so I wouldn't be surprised if they were cancelled.
Anyway, I have a chance of going to Zambia on an Immersion Project, you spend two weeks in Zambia helping the Christian Brothers. I also have a chance of a German exchange, I'd absolutely love this. I love German and two weeks there would be great. Unfortunately, these are very unlikely because my school is bias towards hurlers and sport players in general and my year's full of them.
Work experience was a major factor too, I think it's great that we have a chance to see if a job we may be interested in is available for us. Throughout the year there are many other activities, but a break would be nice after the JC:pac:

Mine is the exact same.

Troxck

paddyzk wrote: »

Mine is the exact same.

It's annoying but you can get off the radar of some teachers which is handy in certain situations...

ohsurelook

Mine is the exact same.

So is mine - the student who won most improved in rugby/basketball/football got a silver plaque with their name engraved on it. The student who got the best JC results got a book.

Pissed laughing when I heard though

EoghanIRL

ohsurelook wrote: »

Mine is the exact same.

So is mine - the student who won most improved in rugby/basketball/football got a silver plaque with their name engraved on it. The student who got the best JC results got a book.

Pissed laughing when I heard though

Ha my school is the same also. Huge into hurling and the gaa. Grinds my gears. School motto is committed to quality education. More like committed to quality hurling.

IrishLoriii

Im doing TY I Cant wait for it!
TY In my school is great! You get to go to loads of places and have the craic! No messers from my year have got in and theres 100 of us doing it

SweetCaliber

IrishLoriii wrote: »

Im doing TY I Cant wait for it!
TY In my school is great! You get to go to loads of places and have the craic! No messers from my year have got in and theres 100 of us doing it

100 :eek: There's only like 26 in my school doing it, that's all we could fit in the year

Honestly, I think it's down to the school and the group of TY's.

This years TY's got to go to France, had a ball! Got to help the community, take reqular trips and relax, they were a very very good year and they said they enjoyed it.

Last years TY'S were a bunch of ****holes and they did **** all! Went on maybe one trip and did nothing all year, it was a complete doss of a year and their opinions of it were horrible.

I'm doing it this year mainly because my friends are and it's a bit of a break. Also the rest of my group are the rather mature type and not a pack of idiots. I know it's an extra year, but hey, it'll only happen once in your life!

dalta5billion

All rugby school.

Minority sports are my thing. Although Rugby takes precedence over every sport, even when they're not effing scheduled to use the gym.

Thankfully the rugby lads can't stop me kayaking - outside school time.

paddyzk

Who wants to spend another year in school ?
ew.

Troxck

paddyzk wrote: »

Who wants to spend another year in school ?
ew.

Because of the opportunities you might get doing it. I have a chance of going to Germany and Zambia as well as the possibility of work experience in Dell! Tbh, I hate all my year bar a few and have more friends going into 5th but I wouldn't be able to handle 5th.

AnnaTorvFan

5th year for me.
Doing Higher enlish and maths and ordinary irish,
and then Accounting, Physics, French and geography.
not going to bother with LCVP since i can get 3 study classes instead.

EoghanIRL

Troxck wrote: »

paddyzk wrote: »

Who wants to spend another year in school ?
ew.

Because of the opportunities you might get doing it. I have a chance of going to Germany and Zambia as well as the possibility of work experience in Dell! Tbh, I hate all my year bar a few and have more friends going into 5th but I wouldn't be able to handle 5th.

I also hate the majority of my year bar 2 or 3 people. They are doing ty so I happy however. Why do people pick on the swots

paddyzk

EoghanIRL wrote: »

I also hate the majority of my year bar 2 or 3 people. They are doing ty so I happy however. Why do people pick on the swots

You'll have the last laugh

dalta5billion

paddyzk wrote: »

EoghanIRL wrote: »

I also hate the majority of my year bar 2 or 3 people. They are doing ty so I happy however. Why do people pick on the swots

You'll have the last laugh

Exactly. It will be really sweet to meet that "I'm going to be a professional soccer/rugby player" when they serve you in Centra.

Slow Show

dalta5billion wrote: »

Exactly. It will be really sweet to meet that "I'm going to be a professional soccer/rugby player" when they serve you in Centra.

Even seemingly not very nice people are entitled to their dreams, just as you are to yours >.>

Didn't do TY myself, no regrets. That said, if there was a decent program in my school I would've at least considered it, but there wasn't so the thought of doing it never crossed my mind. I'm not the biggest fan of school tbh, it was grand for a while but at some stage in the last year or so I got really tired of every day being almost the same (although it wouldn't be quite like that in TY I guess). I'm really craving the change that college will bring and the long-awaited freedom, and thanks to not doing TY I just have this LC to get over with, rather than two years. So I'm happy in that respect, and if anyone is similar-minded then y'know, skipping would probably be a good choice. If the program is decent/you're willing to get the best out of the year regardless/you're really young then full steam ahead with TY I say.

EoghanIRL

Slow Show wrote: »

dalta5billion wrote: »

Exactly. It will be really sweet to meet that "I'm going to be a professional soccer/rugby player" when they serve you in Centra.

Even seemingly not very nice people are entitled to their dreams, just as you are to yours >.>

Didn't do TY myself, no regrets. That said, if there was a decent program in my school I would've at least considered it, but there wasn't so the thought of doing it never crossed my mind. I'm not the biggest fan of school tbh, it was grand for a while but at some stage in the last year or so I got really tired of every day being almost the same (although it wouldn't be quite like that in TY I guess). I'm really craving the change that college will bring and the long-awaited freedom, and thanks to not doing TY I just have this LC to get over with, rather than two years. So I'm happy in that respect, and if anyone is similar-minded then y'know, skipping would probably be a good choice. If the program is decent/you're willing to get the best out of the year regardless/you're really young then full steam ahead with TY I say.

I will be 16 doing some Of the LC. Even thought I will be young I have always preferred the academic side of school. I think One good thing about ty is you can take on a science project.i am a huge science fan but I won't be allowed take on another project. I loved the btys, sci fest, representing ireland at isef in Pittsburgh and at I sweep in Texas. But I just won't have the time next year. I think that is one advantage of ty. I feel that a lot of people thqat do ty need the year because they are immature. You d be surprised by the amount of people who left 30 mins after every exam.

paddzdaman

Why is everyone on this forum anti-sport practically? I play a serious amount of sport, yet I'm expecting at least 6 or more A's in the junior cert. People just need to relax

Troxck

paddzdaman wrote: »

Why is everyone on this forum anti-sport practically? I play a serious amount of sport, yet I'm expecting at least 6 or more A's in the junior cert. People just need to relax

We're not anti-sport, I enjoy sport but I don't like teachers favouring students because that student plays sports, it's not fair.

dalta5billion

paddzdaman wrote: »

Why is everyone on this forum anti-sport practically? I play a serious amount of sport, yet I'm expecting at least 6 or more A's in the junior cert. People just need to relax

Not anti-sport. I play two.

Just don't like academia and sport intertwining hand in hand, certain students getting off homework because a teacher is a rugby coach and there's a match soon etc.

EoghanIRL

^^ agreed

The One Who Knocks

Oh you guys are still here?

Okay well here's my €0.02,

My school's TY program is optional & supposed to be pretty good,
but I'm a more academic sort of person, so I think it would be good for me to spend some time on the other side of school, (sports & extra-curricular)

I would have loved to do more, but I felt like I just didn't have time during the JC.

I do agree however that it's mostly a dos, so that's why I'm going to be using it to focus on some *side projects* of mine..

But if I do get bored, I'll probably end up covering LC material myself lol

anirishlad

I did TY this year and it was probably the best decision I made. Its made me much more independent and you do some really worthwhile things during it like Enterprise and Work experience.

Our school ran a great a Ty program though for the more business oriented like myself I got to do enterprise,for those who wanted to act and sing there was the musical,for the sporty people there was coaching and for the people who were into computers there was programming.

If your school has a decent and well run Ty program go for it because you will feel much better going into 5th year after a break from exam pressures.

Yer_Wan

EoghanIRL wrote: »

School motto is committed to quality education. More like committed to quality hurling.

How is Denis Ring keeping in my absence?

IrishLoriii

lee3155 wrote: »

100 :eek: There's only like 26 in my school doing it, that's all we could fit in the year

Honestly, I think it's down to the school and the group of TY's.

This years TY's got to go to France, had a ball! Got to help the community, take reqular trips and relax, they were a very very good year and they said they enjoyed it.

Last years TY'S were a bunch of ****holes and they did **** all! Went on maybe one trip and did nothing all year, it was a complete doss of a year and their opinions of it were horrible.

I'm doing it this year mainly because my friends are and it's a bit of a break. Also the rest of my group are the rather mature type and not a pack of idiots. I know it's an extra year, but hey, it'll only happen once in your life!

Yep theres 100 of us And 169 in my whole year the rest are doing LCA/5th yr. My years TY are going to carlingford, alton towers (imnot going to alton towers its too much money and im scared of heights :L ) and then we go on trips all through the year like ploughing championshiops, extreme sports etc We do 6 weeks at the local gym and we do swimming too and spinning classes etc :L We have projects all through the year! We have 2 weeks work experience and we have journals where you write about what youve done and learned every day for the year :P

SweetCaliber

IrishLoriii wrote: »

Yep theres 100 of us And 169 in my whole year the rest are doing LCA/5th yr. My years TY are going to carlingford, alton towers (imnot going to alton towers its too much money and im scared of heights :L ) and then we go on trips all through the year like ploughing championshiops, extreme sports etc We do 6 weeks at the local gym and we do swimming too and spinning classes etc :L We have projects all through the year! We have 2 weeks work experience and we have journals where you write about what youve done and learned every day for the year :P

Jesus!! Haha, Hopefully some schools will attend events my school will and I'll get to meet a few Boardsies

xfabgalx

My school just goes up to 5th year and in 4th year we do 2 weeks of work xp. There's only like 180-200 in our school.
I wouldn't have done it anyway.

Undecided95

I just finished 5th year this year, I did not do TY. I applied for TY but there wasn't enough space. At the time, I thought I wouldnt be able to cope with going straight from JC to LC. However, it turned out to be the best possible thing that could of happened. I met aload of new friends, have excellent teachers and everyone that did TY turned out hating it. I'll be starting 6th year in September and I can't wait to begin my last year in school.

Fifth year is alot of work but if you put your head down from the beginning, it really stands to you. I strangely enough, quite enjoyed it.

Sucette!

I did TY last year and to be honest im not sure if it was worth it or not. It got very mixed reactions in my school, it was a year where i got like 15 new close friends which no, I cant deney on that part it was a waste of time. However, academically we did nothing and most of the things we learnt in JC I have forgotten and will have to re-learn them again in Septemeber which wont be too easy. Activities wise it depends on the school, in mine we hardly did any and most of the time spent every class watching some sort of dvd or just going on the internet, the teachers just didnt care towards the end of the year!

So yes if its known that your school has a good ty programme i would advise doing it, you mature and make lots of new friends considering classes are all different from JUnior Cert, but if you no what you want to do, and have a good study rhythm i'd say go onto 5th year as TY does mess up everything!

Troxck

Sucette! wrote: »

I did TY last year and to be honest im not sure if it was worth it or not. It got very mixed reactions in my school, it was a year where i got like 15 new close friends which no, I cant deney on that part it was a waste of time. However, academically we did nothing and most of the things we learnt in JC I have forgotten and will have to re-learn them again in Septemeber which wont be too easy. Activities wise it depends on the school, in mine we hardly did any and most of the time spent every class watching some sort of dvd or just going on the internet, the teachers just didnt care towards the end of the year!

So yes if its known that your school has a good ty programme i would advise doing it, you mature and make lots of new friends considering classes are all different from JUnior Cert, but if you no what you want to do, and have a good study rhythm i'd say go onto 5th year as TY does mess up everything!

Pretty much sums up TY. Some of my friends loved it, others hated it. Depends on the people in your year and if you sign up for activities. If you don't it could get boring. I'm going into TY and have applied for an Immersion Project to Zambia. If your school offers exchanges, apply for them. Anyway, I think the only person who decides what you're ready for is yourself.

Sucette!

Troxck wrote: »

Pretty much sums up TY. Some of my friends loved it, others hated it. Depends on the people in your year and if you sign up for activities. If you don't it could get boring. I'm going into TY and have applied for an Immersion Project to Zambia. If your school offers exchanges, apply for them. Anyway, I think the only person who decides what you're ready for is yourself.

Couldnt have said it better myself!

AulBiddy

I'm doing TY and I am furious. I hate most of the year doing it.
My school is not strict at all regarding the people that get into TY and the amount of lazy gobshites doing it is unbelievable. I'd say me and a couple of other people will be left with all the work to do while they sit back and take the mickey out of us.
Any friends that I had are all gone off to "the cool kids" and all they do is drink and smoke now and they're gone into TY aswell.
I've a feeling this is going to be a horrible year, I thought 4th year would change everything but now I'm not so sure

anirishlad

AulBiddy wrote: »

I'm doing TY and I am furious. I hate most of the year doing it.
My school is not strict at all regarding the people that get into TY and the amount of lazy gobshites doing it is unbelievable. I'd say me and a couple of other people will be left with all the work to do while they sit back and take the mickey out of us.
Any friends that I had are all gone off to "the cool kids" and all they do is drink and smoke now and they're gone into TY aswell.
I've a feeling this is going to be a horrible year, I thought 4th year would change everything but now I'm not so sure

Listen theres no point going into a year feeling like that, if you've convinced yourself before the year has even started that its going to be **** well then there's no hope is there? :pac: At least give it a chance and your coming across awful bitter tbh, cheer up :P

Troxck

AulBiddy wrote: »

I'm doing TY and I am furious. I hate most of the year doing it.
My school is not strict at all regarding the people that get into TY and the amount of lazy gobshites doing it is unbelievable. I'd say me and a couple of other people will be left with all the work to do while they sit back and take the mickey out of us.
Any friends that I had are all gone off to "the cool kids" and all they do is drink and smoke now and they're gone into TY aswell.
I've a feeling this is going to be a horrible year, I thought 4th year would change everything but now I'm not so sure

I kind of regret picking TY now but we'll have to make the best of it. If there any trips abroad, you'd be picked over those who laze back and don't give a toss.