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Football Manager 2013 Discussion

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  • Posts: 6,053 [Deleted User]


    Sorry lads for another boring question.

    I just got the game, set up steam and installed the game but when I click on the icon to play the game it comes up "Steam servers are busy".

    Just wondering if this happens a lot and how long do you think Ill be waiting for the servers to not be busy?

    Thanks

    **EDIT** Worked when I clicked it again :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Sin City


    Sorry lads for another boring question.

    I just got the game, set up steam and installed the game but when I click on the icon to play the game it comes up "Steam servers are busy".

    Just wondering if this happens a lot and how long do you think Ill be waiting for the servers to not be busy?

    Thanks

    **EDIT** Worked when I clicked it again :D

    It does happen, but usually its resolved very quickly
    Just keep trying


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭Left Back on the Bench


    baboo800 wrote: »
    I'm in my second season and am with Everton.I recently just joined them from QPR and I have gone 10 games without a win.Ive tried changing my tactics but that still hasn't worked so could someone please help me ??

    you can talk to the squad too and tell them they're playing badly or ok but can do much better. let them play without pressure before games too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,562 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    So - goals are pre-determined in football manager, what a bitter disappointment it is to find this out.

    Around HT it listed a goal for Welbeck on the timeline despite being 0-0. Sure enough, got to the allotted time and I scored. (Hernandez - Welbeck was off injured).

    70odd mins gone in the game now and it lists a second goal on thetime line for Hernandez.

    Wonder if he will get it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,562 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Hernandez did indeed get his second in the 90th.

    There were two other unheralded goals though, in a 3-1 win, not 2-0 as the future goals predicted.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,944 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    So after 10 years in the job, my game finally decides to keep crashing before my most important game of the season

    "Not well formed (invalid token) of line 1 of switching.xml"

    wtf?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    Yakult wrote: »
    So after 10 years in the job, my game finally decides to keep crashing before my most important game of the season

    "Not well formed (invalid token) of line 1 of switching.xml"

    wtf?


    That usually happens if the game crashed preiously.

    Here's a fix: First of all you need to turn hidden folders on. Control Panel --> Appareance and Personalization --> Folder Options --> View tab --> Show hidden files and folders

    Then click Start --> My Computer --> Users --> (Your name) --> AppData --> Roaming --> Sports Interactive --> FM 13, then delete the settings folder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭Reekwind


    So - goals are pre-determined in football manager, what a bitter disappointment it is to find this out
    I'd imagine that the entire match (stats, injuries, etc) is determined in advance, with the graphics merely being a visual telling of this.

    I'm curious though, how did you see there 'future goals' on the timeline?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 walkeith25


    I'm used to the full frame as well...06.jpg
    07.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,830 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Reekwind wrote: »
    I'd imagine that the entire match (stats, injuries, etc) is determined in advance, with the graphics merely being a visual telling of this.

    I would hope that the changes you make to tactics, substitutions and so on would have a direct impact on the game, otherwise why bother attending matches?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,553 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    dulpit wrote: »
    I would hope that the changes you make to tactics, substitutions and so on would have a direct impact on the game, otherwise why bother attending matches?

    This is the case. Everything is calculated at the beginning, but then recalculated every time a change is made.

    Strange issue with the showing of goals on the timeline before they occur though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,562 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Reekwind wrote: »
    I'd imagine that the entire match (stats, injuries, etc) is determined in advance, with the graphics merely being a visual telling of this.

    I'm curious though, how did you see there 'future goals' on the timeline?

    The match timeline bar at the bottom showed goals (the football) in advance of me actually getting to that time - for two of the four goals scored in the game. Both goals were scored at the times that were previously display.

    I have a couple of screen shots on the laptop at home, will upload them later.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,553 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    The match timeline bar at the bottom showed goals (the football) in advance of me actually getting to that time - for two of the four goals scored in the game. Both goals were scored at the times that were previously display.

    I have a couple of screen shots on the laptop at home, will upload them later.

    Could you perhaps of rewinded during the game? Or viewed some previous highlights?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Reekwind wrote: »
    I'd imagine that the entire match (stats, injuries, etc) is determined in advance, with the graphics merely being a visual telling of this.

    I'm curious though, how did you see there 'future goals' on the timeline?

    But that would render your team talks, in game change of tactics or anything completely pointless. Which kinda goes against the whole FM thing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭EdenHazard


    Not a big fan of FM13. Played through first season and in it, Bayern finished with like a plus 8 goal difference and barca with plus 15. Not realistic. Not enough disparity between the top and weaker teams.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,944 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    Arsenal approach my very good Under 18's coach for the vacant managers job, I had a chat option asking him to stay, so I did and he was delighted I had personally asked him to stay and that he would not be going anywhere. He actually refused lol. Now that's loyalty!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭Reekwind


    kryogen wrote: »
    But that would render your team talks, in game change of tactics or anything completely pointless. Which kinda goes against the whole FM thing
    NiallSparky's explanation makes sense but personally I think that quite a lot is predetermined. We've all had games where just nothing goes right and it's obvious that the computer has decided that the opposition is going to win. Liverpool going down 5-0 to relegation form West Brom springs to mind for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,562 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Could you perhaps of rewinded during the game? Or viewed some previous highlights?

    Sorry - wasn't home long enough to boot up the laptop last night.

    To answer your question - no, i'm not stupid enough for that to have been the reason!

    Also, only 2 goals showed on the timeline - 2 other goals in the game were scored between the 2 shown to me before they were scored.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    The match timeline bar at the bottom showed goals (the football) in advance of me actually getting to that time - for two of the four goals scored in the game. Both goals were scored at the times that were previously display.

    I have a couple of screen shots on the laptop at home, will upload them later.


    I think i had the same issue too, i remember seeing something odd like that and think i took a screen shot too.

    on a similer note if i take a screenshot is it uploaded to a steam save or anything or do i gotta wait till i get home to get it on the PC.

    I thought i had a dropbox set up for this kinda stuff but apparently not!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 297 ✭✭Clemenza


    Help needed lads.

    Playing as Forest, restarted from scratch again, first season in Championship, 2012/13 season.

    Currently in 4th on New Year's Day, board just gave me £5 million to get us up.

    Badly need a striker or 2, Sharp and Cox are not firing for me.

    Happy with all other aspects of my team

    Thanking you :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,562 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Clemenza wrote: »
    Help needed lads.

    Playing as Forest, restarted from scratch again, first season in Championship, 2012/13 season.

    Currently in 4th on New Year's Day, board just gave me £5 million to get us up.

    Badly need a striker or 2, Sharp and Cox are not firing for me.

    Happy with all other aspects of my team

    Thanking you :)
    Is Henriquez still at United? Try get him in on loan - fantastic little player - became my main striker at United in the third season.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 297 ✭✭Clemenza


    Is Henriquez still at United? Try get him in on loan - fantastic little player - became my main striker at United in the third season.

    With the 13.3 patch update he's on loan at Wigan for the season :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 297 ✭✭Clemenza




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Wooden Jesus


    Clemenza wrote: »
    Help needed lads.

    Playing as Forest, restarted from scratch again, first season in Championship, 2012/13 season.

    Currently in 4th on New Year's Day, board just gave me £5 million to get us up.

    Badly need a striker or 2, Sharp and Cox are not firing for me.

    Happy with all other aspects of my team

    Thanking you :)

    Leonardo ulloa is a monster in the championship. Maiga is handy on loan from west ham aswell


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 297 ✭✭Clemenza


    Cheers for the help lads

    9 points clear at the top with 9 games left, Fierros been on fire for me :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    Chris Coleman ignored my 45 mins per game request for Bale...this is war :mad:


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Anyone else find they can't spend their budget as the game goes on?

    I mean, I have a transfer budget of 125m at Spurs in 2026. And when I look at players worth large sums, they simply aren't as good as what I have. It's the first time I've played a game this long, and I've managed to get into a good system of buying a few players at 18 for 3-5m, turning them into superstars and selling them on later for 30m or so. But it means I never have the inclination to buy massive players.

    Can't even seem to pump the cash into facilities or the likes either.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,365 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Yeah, I have that at the moment. Into my 9th season in charge of Dortmund as reigning champions, so obviously the team is pretty decent. Currently have €91m to spend but can't find anyone better than I have, or if I do their club won't part with them no matter how much I offer.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 297 ✭✭Clemenza


    Any care to recommend me a decent scout?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nolars


    Clemenza wrote: »
    Any care to recommend me a decent scout?

    Depends what club you are aswell just search for scouts and filter ability to 18 and judging potential to 18.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    My Head of Youth Development is in charge of signing youngsters but hasn't signed anyone? Sacked Mike Phelan and brought in Jorge Valdano, good scouting and tactical knowledge is a must for me. In my second season, game is getting a bit slow now, laptop is old :(

    May give the classic version a go, anyone played it?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 297 ✭✭Clemenza


    Just signed a Brazilian striker called Leo Bonatini for £14 million.

    Hoping he does well! Anyone else familiar with him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Got this in a recent Steam sale.

    It's a bit annoying the way most teams have virtually no transfer budget.
    I'd really rather they actually started the game with the real squads and appropriate transfer budgets in June or July. I'm pretty sure the old CM games generally had budgets from the start.

    I have no desire to go on big 10 year careers in this. It's not what I want from the game. So having no control over the shape of the squad for an entire year is annoying.

    It was handy with a Liverpool save because they had loads of really good young players so they were a bit more interesting to play around with. Same went for Schalke.

    Is there any way to tweak the budgets, either by workarounds in game or mods?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭EdenHazard


    Download the updates man from non SI sources. FM Marshall has a good updated database which reflects current financial situations(Arsenal with a nice transfer kitty, Anzhi broke etc.) He's actually top notch, he edits every little intricate detail, and edits players to reflect real life ability.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    EdenHazard wrote: »
    Download the updates man from non SI sources. FM Marshall has a good updated database which reflects current financial situations(Arsenal with a nice transfer kitty, Anzhi broke etc.) He's actually top notch, he edits every little intricate detail, and edits players to reflect real life ability.

    I don't really want current budgets and squads.

    Basically I want realistic budgets for all teams set as if there has been no business done yet in the Summer of 2012 (ie the start of the game).

    I can see there's editors that allow you to change all sorts - the overall budget, the transfer budget.
    But I don't really want a massive advantage. I just want to be able to fiddle around with my own squad. I'd like there to be a level playing field with all the other teams also given that opportunity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭yimrsg


    Gbear wrote: »
    Got this in a recent Steam sale.

    It's a bit annoying the way most teams have virtually no transfer budget.
    I'd really rather they actually started the game with the real squads and appropriate transfer budgets in June or July. I'm pretty sure the old CM games generally had budgets from the start.

    I have no desire to go on big 10 year careers in this. It's not what I want from the game. So having no control over the shape of the squad for an entire year is annoying.

    It was handy with a Liverpool save because they had loads of really good young players so they were a bit more interesting to play around with. Same went for Schalke.

    Is there any way to tweak the budgets, either by workarounds in game or mods?

    Add a second manager to some mega rich club and buy one of your weaker players off your primary team and then resign the second manager. It's cheating but you'll get easy money fast.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭EdenHazard


    Gbear wrote: »
    I don't really want current budgets and squads.

    Basically I want realistic budgets for all teams set as if there has been no business done yet in the Summer of 2012 (ie the start of the game).

    I can see there's editors that allow you to change all sorts - the overall budget, the transfer budget.
    But I don't really want a massive advantage. I just want to be able to fiddle around with my own squad. I'd like there to be a level playing field with all the other teams also given that opportunity.

    That's what it does, but for summer 2013, every team is given what you want, for example Liverpool have Aspas and the likes but still have their original summer 2013 budget.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,672 ✭✭✭elefant


    Gbear wrote: »
    I don't really want current budgets and squads.

    Basically I want realistic budgets for all teams set as if there has been no business done yet in the Summer of 2012 (ie the start of the game).

    I can see there's editors that allow you to change all sorts - the overall budget, the transfer budget.
    But I don't really want a massive advantage. I just want to be able to fiddle around with my own squad. I'd like there to be a level playing field with all the other teams also given that opportunity.

    You already have a massive advantage. Almost everyone who plays football manager ends up successful. How is it levelling the playing field to increase your transfer budget? Level it with whom?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭Tallaght Saint


    Any tips for solidifying the defence? Playing a game with FC United of Manchester and have them up in the Blue Square Premier doing well but i'm shipping way too many goals..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    elefant wrote: »
    You already have a massive advantage. Almost everyone who plays football manager ends up successful. How is it levelling the playing field to increase your transfer budget? Level it with whom?

    Level the playing field as in also allow all the other managers in the game to make signings I have to deal with.

    To put it another way, if I just wanted to use the money cheat I'd go City or Chelsea who both start with 60m+. I don't want to have that kind of a massive financial advantage.

    In fact I started a game recently with Arsenal and they have a budget of 26m. With that I was able to do the sort of business I want. Not sign Thiago Silva, Neymar and Lewandowski all in 1 go but get a few bits and bobs - some young, some experienced.

    Very few clubs have that sort of money at the start of the game though so that limits my options.
    I don't really want to play a season with Liverpool or Real Sociedad before I can make any changes. I want to be like any new manager at the start of the summer and have the freedom to reshape the squad within a normal budget.

    I'm not sure why they've made the game in such a way that you can't do that with most teams. I would've thought people would've preferred to start off with some sort of transfer budget.

    And I'm fairly sure it wasn't like that the last time I played the game (CM 4).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭EdenHazard


    Dude, I told u about the update that allows you to do that, fm marshall, its on fm base.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    EdenHazard wrote: »
    Dude, I told u about the update that allows you to do that, fm marshall, its on fm base.

    Yeah I know, I was just explaining my position.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭EdenHazard


    I totally get you, too many people think using the editor means you want to make your team the best, I really use the editor to make the game harder(make real and barcelona better to reflect their dominance in la liga for example)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,697 ✭✭✭Danger781


    Started playing FM13 recently on Classic mode and just finished my first season with Man Utd...

    Signed Bale from Tottenham in a swap for Anderson and Cleverley, hah :pac: Best piece of business I've done so far as he did quite well for me this season on the left wing.. Won a player of the year award :) Anderson and Clevs were rarely ever played in my squad anyway but for some reason the board were disappointed to see Clevs leave.

    Signed Fellaini from Everton for somewhere around €25 million and he turned out to be one of my key players. Became a great signing and the board and fans were very happy with him. He ended up being voted into the Dream XI at the end of the season.. as did 7 of my other players! :rolleyes:

    Signed Luke Shaw as my future replacement for Evra. Evra got injured for 3 months this season and he did well in his place. Really hope to see him become the best DL in the league ;) However, I have mixed feelings about him. Because of the money spent (Roughly €14 million I think) I missed out on Sandro. He only cost Chelsea €20 million and was definitely one of the best CM in the world this season. A combination of Fellaini and Sandro would have been unreal, with Fletch as backup. Carrick didn't achieve much this season.


    Onto my second transfer window..

    Signed Shaqiri as my new right winger in rotation with Valencia. Can't remember how much exactly but it was in the region of €30 million. Valencia had a great season for the most part, while Nani.. was disappointing. Trying to flog him off for €30 million but no bites so far other than about 3.0 up front with the rest in monthly instalments. Might end up leaving him go for that but I kind of want money up front.

    Signed ter Stegen as my new Goalkeeper as DeGea was so frustrating most of the season. He had some great spells, but then he would spiral for a while and make some very silly mistakes and give away crucial goals. Only seen ter Stegen in pre season so far but he is already impressing me. Might work in a rotation system between the two as I'd hate to see deGea rotting on the bench.

    Sold Wellbeck to Juve for about €16.5 million cash up front. Never played him at all last season so it worked out a great deal for me.

    Sold Carrick for 18.5 million to Arsenal. While selling him to a competitor wasn't the greatest move ever, and the board & fans weren't too pleased, he is 32 and pushing 33.. didn't feature a whole lot last season even though he got played a lot. Fletcher / Fellaini became my two CM's. Felt it was best to just sell him off.

    Released Giggs on a free. I think he played about 3 games for me last season. Signed Scholes up for another year as backup in case my CM's get injured.

    Currently trying to sign Thiago.. Had agreed a deal of about €45 million or so with Barcelona but he got injured just before signing so failed his medical.. I don't think he will be back to fitness before the window is over either unfortunately, so need to look elsewhere now that Carrick is gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,697 ✭✭✭Danger781


    Feck sake this game is getting seriously frustrating now..

    I'm using the exact same tactics as last year.. but with better players..

    Yet, I'm scoring less.. And against any 'big' team I losing by at least 3 goals.. I lost 4-0 to Arsenal who currently 9th in the league after winning 1 of their 6 games, drawing 3, and losing 2.. Yet they destroy me?

    Same thing happened City.. 3-0 but it really should have been 4-0 or 5-0

    What the feck is happening


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nolars


    Danger781 wrote: »
    Feck sake this game is getting seriously frustrating now..

    I'm using the exact same tactics as last year.. but with better players..

    Yet, I'm scoring less.. And against any 'big' team I losing by at least 3 goals.. I lost 4-0 to Arsenal who currently 9th in the league after winning 1 of their 6 games, drawing 3, and losing 2.. Yet they destroy me?

    Same thing happened City.. 3-0 but it really should have been 4-0 or 5-0

    What the feck is happening

    Do you play the same tactic every game and not alter it to your opposition etc, how the game is going?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭Reekwind


    Danger781 wrote: »
    What the feck is happening
    Second season syndrome. Other teams know what to expect and adjust their tactics to better counter you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Reekwind wrote: »
    Second season syndrome. Other teams know what to expect and adjust their tactics to better counter you

    Is the game actually that clever?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭Reekwind


    So I've been told. And it fits with my observations, particularly if you come from nowhere and do well in your first season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,697 ✭✭✭Danger781


    Nolars wrote: »
    Do you play the same tactic every game and not alter it to your opposition etc, how the game is going?
    Reekwind wrote: »
    Second season syndrome. Other teams know what to expect and adjust their tactics to better counter you

    I was playing this formation all the time until now.. My main squad would look something like..

    RVP
    -Bale----Kagawa----Shaqiri-
    Fellaini--Thiago

    -Baines-Evans-Vidic-Rafael-
    ter Stegen

    With the tactics set to Fluid / Attacking - I dominated the game last year

    Rooney is like my wildcard.. He's versatile so I tend to play him out of position, generally swapping him with one of RVP / Kag / Bale when one gets below 90%, but generally I just rotate between him and Kagawa or RVP. RVP is injured at the moment so he's actually playing up top in rotation with Hernandez.

    I've been tinkering with having two wing backs with three CD's with one CM, or two CM with nobody behind the striker other than the two wingers. Neither wielding great results. Tried going back to a standard 4-4-1-1 and again, doing pretty average.

    Yesterday evening I kept re-loading the game over and over trying different tactics against City just to see what worked, because obviously what I was doing had stopped doing what it was supposed to do, but continuously lost by 2-3 goals every time no matter what. I've lost track of how many shapes I've tried at this stage. Getting dominated all over the pitch even though they're playing my original tactic, albeit slightly different with 3 in the centre behind the striker rather than two wingers with one behind the striker.

    My team just can't seem to score any more. It's like they intentionally aim for the crossbar because they're amazing at hitting it 2-3 times per game.


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