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bought a written off car

  • 19-06-2012 8:32pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13


    I bought a written off car. The seller never told me about it. What can I do now?

    " If you sell a vehicle that was written off and you did not disclose it to the new owner, then you are liable and may be prosecuted for disception."-cartell.ie


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,451 ✭✭✭CharlieCroker


    For a prosecution for deception, you have to prove that the seller knew it was written off. Since you've referenced Cartell, did you do a vehicle check before you bought it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 byniol


    No i didnt do cartell check before. If i did I wouldnt need help. I only checked with gards if it was stolen , cloned etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Who'd you buy it from? Dealer, auction or personal?

    If a dealer: See Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980; note that the car must be for personal and not business purposes. You will likely require a solicitor at this stage.
    If at auction: You likely have no recourse. 99% of the time the act of bidding at these car auctions signifies that you accept the Terms & Conditions.
    If personal: Again, little to no recourse here. Sellers are obliged to answer truthfully any questions you ask of them but are not obliged to disclose all information without prior request. Sneaky but... that's the way it goes. If the car is not roadworthy, though, there is some part of the Road Traffic legislation that deals with this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭page1


    byniol wrote: »
    I bought a written off car. The seller never told me about it. What can I do now?

    " If you sell a vehicle that was written off and you did not disclose it to the new owner, then you are liable and may be prosecuted for disception."-cartell.ie

    Do you know what category of write off it is? Some are for unsafe unroadworthy cars and some are just for an uneconomic repair. The difference being that some categories allow for the car to be insured and driven so while the car you bought may not be worth what you paid you may still be able to tax insure and drive it.
    It might be worth getting an independant engineers report on it.

    Eta: Cat A & B are for structural damage not to be put back on the road and C & D uneconomic repairs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 byniol


    Bought from a private person. Im still waiting for the report that will say what category of write off is it. The car is working perfect so far and it got fresh NCT till 07/2014 , I checked it and its real. Problem is that i paid for it 4000 and as a write off its worth only 2000. So ill be happy if i could get at least half of the money back and keep the car, or the full amount and return the car. Of course the guys phone is not working any more .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,451 ✭✭✭CharlieCroker


    Jaysus OP, you're very unlucky with cars!!!!

    Last week you bought a stolen car that was subsequently seized by the gardai,
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79152622

    And now you're after buying a write off!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭listenup


    Jaysus OP, you're very unlucky with cars!!!!

    Last week you bought a stolen car that was subsequently seized by the gardai,
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79152622

    And now you're after buying a write off!!!
    This guy is clearly an attention seeker


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 byniol


    Call me stupid but its all true. And belive me i checked it before i bought this one. I got the guy picture name, address etc. I checked on MyWheels and garda station (NCT, Chassis number, Reg.Cert) , shoudve checked cartell. Its unreal. Ill never buy a car from a private user again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,451 ✭✭✭CharlieCroker


    Wha lt did the guards tell you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 byniol


    that its all good


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 byniol


    I got scammed by this guy [SNIP}, the phone is not answering any more, checked his house and a lady living next door told me they moved out over night ,landlord doesnt know about it, they left 1 car behind tho
    they also have a white van with website address on it
    let me know if anybody seen them in Dublin and around


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Jesus Shaves


    byniol wrote: »
    I got scammed by this guy dublincarvalet.ie , the phone is not answering any more, checked his house and a lady living next door told me they moved out over night ,landlord doesnt know about it, they left 1 car behind tho
    they also have a white van with website address on it
    let me know if anybody seen them in Dublin and around

    Order a valet off them, then confront them when they show up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 byniol


    You cant cause the phone is not working any more, they dont answer emails either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 byniol


    only phone that is answering is the bottom one from the web desiner, he knows them but wont give me or anybody any contact


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    byniol wrote: »
    I got scammed by this guy [SNIP}, the phone is not answering any more, checked his house and a lady living next door told me they moved out over night ,landlord doesnt know about it, they left 1 car behind tho
    they also have a white van with website address on it
    let me know if anybody seen them in Dublin and around
    Did you tell the Gardaí about any of this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,035 ✭✭✭goz83


    The Gardai should be able to access the insurance database to find details on these scammers when they change address. They likely buy write offs in category c&d, which you can still nct and tax, but cannot insure until you get an engineers report to declare it safe for road use. That usually costs circa €200.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 byniol


    So gards told me there is nothing they can do because its not criminal case and they cant get involved. I went to a solicitor and was told that chances to win enything are very slim. Buyer beware. Only thing i can do is to sell it to someone else hoping that person wont find out either.

    I know the guy is on holidays now so will try to confront him when he is back.

    I also found out that it is category D write off and didnt have any problems to insurre it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    Whats the latest OP, did you get your money back?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭Ned_led16


    Jaysus OP, you're very unlucky with cars!!!!

    Last week you bought a stolen car that was subsequently seized by the gardai,
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79152622

    And now you're after buying a write off!!!
    The original thread poster inquired about where you could buy a car that is damaged/ stolen or recovered buy an insurance company...... and boy oh boy guess what he bought a write off and a stolen car the following week by mistake.... hmmmmmmmm i smell something fishy too

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79152351
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79153185


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