Sky Vs Other Satellite services Posts

Johnboy1951

Is there any hope of segregating the Sky service posts from other satellite posts?

For those who do not use the Sky service, it is at times very frustrating to begin reading a thread only to find that it concerns Sky only.

It makes navigating to threads of interest difficult and unnecessarily time consuming.

I have no idea if such a move would be generally desirable, but it sure would make my use of this section much easier.

Thanks for giving this some thought.

t c

Definitely +1 on above.

PogMoThoin

Yes, I'd agree, I think Sky deserve their own sub forum, or maybe we could get a FTA sub forum

t c

Perhaps it could be a "Pay TV Forum" which would then include UPC and any others that might come along and have the other as a Freesat/FTA forum.

PogMoThoin

t c wrote: »

Perhaps it could be a "Pay TV Forum" which would then include UPC and any others that might come along and have the other as a Freesat/FTA forum.

UPC isn't satellite, they already pretty much have their own forum, Cable & MMDS & IPTV
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=54

muffler

New forums need to be officially requested here and be sure to read the T & C's

Its something Id support

byte

It's not something I'd support at all.

There is a Satellite forum and a Foreign Satellite forum to cover stuff not on 28E etc.

Really, there doesn't need to be any more fora.

Maybe have a Tag system like Bargain Alerts use, though that'd require people to use it.

gtg60

Biggest problem we have in the Cable & Digital TV forum is all the misplaced posts and badly chosen thread titles and don't even get me started on the confusion between Freeview, FTA, FTV, Freesat etc.

watty

byte wrote: »

It's not something I'd support at all.

There is a Satellite forum and a Foreign Satellite forum to cover stuff not on 28E etc.

Really, there doesn't need to be any more fora.

Maybe have a Tag system like Bargain Alerts use, though that'd require people to use it.

My initial reaction was yes, great, but I agree with Byte on reflection there would be a confusion between
* Sky Pay TV only, or Sky Boxes used without sub
* Sorting dish/ LNBF/ cable / magic eye issues which can be Free or pay Sky
* Dishes feeding pay Sky box, no card Sky box and FTA box all at same time.

There was opposition to the "Foreign Satellite forum" at the time as it causes confusion. In reality it's mostly the non-Sky Pay TV for Football forum. Really there should just be the 4 forums not the current 7, and not a 8th.

These should be the order and number of Forums IMO:
1)Terrestrial, i.e. via an Aerial (Saorview, Freeview HD and soon defunct Analogue). Currently no Pay TV in Ireland on Aerial.

2) Satellite (Sky, Freesat, Generic UK FTA, Mainland Europe FTA, Non-Sky PayTV for Football and Saorsat). Anything via a dish, paid or free.

3) Cable (inc the soon to be dead MMDS) and inc Fibre such as Magnet. i.e. anything only on a Pay wired connection. MMDS the only Wireless, no other Aerial or Dish. No free services, though some channels might be un-encrypted.

4) Broadcast (inc History), for posts NOT about specific TV programs or not about "platforms" such as Terrestrial, Cable or Satellite.

There are OTHER forums on Boards for TV programs, Politics, Broadband, Satellite Internet, Home Theatre, TV wiring, PCs etc.

Analogue via aerial ends 24th October 2012
MMDS ends in 2013 or 2014
Analogue on cable gets cut down or ends any time UPC wants. It could end next year or never. It's costs them nearly x10 per channel than Digital.

Johnboy1951

Well if every poster ensured the thread heading contained sufficient information to allow the reader to correctly decide whether the content is of interest to them or not, I doubt there would be any problems.
That ain't ever going to happen.

Neither is it (EDIT) reasonable to expect (/EDIT) mods to edit threads to add the information!

So we are left with no means of determining if the subject of the thread is of interest, except reading through it.

Rather than concentrate on the number or types of forums maybe someone could come up with an alternate means of achieving the aim of the original suggestion.

Thanks.

watty

Mods CAN edit the Thread title, anytime. Or used to be able to.

St Senan

Watty. You are Missing the Installers forum on your List.

1)Terrestrial, i.e. via an Aerial (Saorview, Freeview HD and soon defunct Analogue). Currently no Pay TV in Ireland on Aerial.

2) Satellite (Sky, Freesat, Generic UK FTA, Mainland Europe FTA, Non-Sky PayTV for Football and Saorsat). Anything via a dish, paid or free.

3) Cable (inc the soon to be dead MMDS) and inc Fibre such as Magnet. i.e. anything only on a Pay wired connection. MMDS the only Wireless, no other Aerial or Dish. No free services, though some channels might be un-encrypted.

4) Broadcast (inc History), for posts NOT about specific TV programs or not about "platforms" such as Terrestrial, Cable or Satellite.

5) Installers Private Forum (which is a Private discussion forum for installers to chat about Aerials and Dish installations)

Johnboy1951

watty wrote: »

Mods CAN edit the Thread title, anytime.

I am aware of that ..... obviously I mis-worded my post.

I meant that

it is completely unreasonable to expect mods to take the job of editing thread headings

Peter Rhea

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Well if every poster ensured the thread heading contained sufficient information to allow the reader to correctly decide whether the content is of interest to them or not

What wouldn't be of interest to a regular here? Any that concern Sky subscriptions, offers etc. usually say so in the title.

watty

scaller wrote: »

Watty. You are Missing the Installers forum on your List.


5) Installers Private Forum (which is a Private discussion forum for installers to chat about Aerials and Dish installations)

Ah but that's not for the public thus not confusing. Also since it's a Private Installers Forum quite irrelevant as it could be anywhere. There could already secret private forums we don't know about.

I'm not going sign for it anyway as I'm not an Installer. Actually I don't know why I bother posting or reading here at all.

watty

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

... it is completely unreasonable to expect mods to take the job of editing thread headings

I dunno. They don't get paid anyway and it's not a lot extra work. I used to do it. I still do it other places sometimes. I used to moderate a few forums here. Now I moderate 2 entire sites, answer English queries for a 3rd and administrate system for 6 others so I'll not be looking for the job back.

St Senan

watty wrote: »

Ah but that's not for the public thus not confusing. Also since it's a Private Installers Forum quite irrelevant as it could be anywhere. There could already secret private forums we don't know about.

I'm not going sign for it anyway as I'm not an Installer. Actually I don't know why I bother posting or reading here at all.

But its still a Forum on the ICDG threads. And the only way a genuine Day to Day Installer would know that such a forum exists is to have it Listed along with the rest of the forums. A link to the Installers Forum is also needed in the Satellite and Foreign Satellite if its not going to be listed as a separate forum.

There is no point in having a Locked thread about it which also has turned into a Tit for Tat. And if a an Installer read the 1st post he would run away from these threads. The Locked thread needs lots for Editing and posts removed and it could be left as a locked thread/Sticky as a link to the Installers forum.

watty

As it's currently formulated I think the Installer's Forum here is pointless. If it's going to be here it needs to be listed. With a sticky that clearly states how you get in and who is making the judgement.

Who is going to Moderate it knowledgeably?

Moderation already is too lightweight, infrequent and not technical enough. The Signal to Noise here is getting like Usenet. Technical Forums need frequent and expert moderation so that complete nonsense or hearsay isn't passed off as fact. This isn't After Hours.

Some of the people now giving "advice" seem to be 13 year olds with unlimited time to argue their inane POV. Just because people don't like some things, doesn't make them untrue. (TV Licence, ASO date, UK & Irish DTT specs etc)

St Senan

All the installers including my self would disagree with you Watty saying the Installers Forum is pointless. Everyone could see what was happening on these threads before it was set-up. Also lots of posters also agree it needs to be listed as a Forum. But Watty you left the installers forum out of your list of Forums in your earlier post. And now you are saying that it needs to be listed if its going to be here. It Is here already with threads up and running in it. The whole point of the Installers Forum is so Day to Day installers who post on Boards regularly can do so with out the outside interference from as you say the 13 year olds with unlimited time to argue their inane POV. . As for most of the posters here the Mods know who is and who are not installers. Thanks again to the ICDG mods also Beruthiel and Dav for setting up the Installers forum.

watty

I don't think it's pointless as a concept.
I think it's pointless as currently run and constituted.

St Senan

watty wrote: »

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I think it's pointless as currently run and constituted.

How so. Its for day to day installers who are working in the business. Its not the 1st private forum opened on Boards relating to a certain business. The open forums are for the public. There would be no point in having a private installers forum if it was available to the public. With regards to the Moderation of the private forum you will need to speak to the local mods here.