**Construction studies 2012 Before/After**

Geographyhater

So thought i might make this one to see your guys opinions and thoughts for exam!!

tanzy

I'm going to have to learn off most of the details and all theory in 2 and a half days. At least i did quite well in the project and practical.

hmf300

can anyone help me? i couldnt attempt one question in the mock and ive no hope. what should i do??

WilhelmFink

Lads, I missed most of 5th year, & barely paid attention this year....

I got 60ish% in the mocks

We'll be grand!

Geographyhater

Being completely honest I studied the night before my exam for mocks except i was looky suspended timber floor came up and i got 81%hoping for the same in LC :rolleyes:

patrickkelly

Lads Just a tip for ye, look into Rain-Water Harvesting! Very good feeling this will appear!

Trev64

hmf300 wrote: »

can anyone help me? i couldnt attempt one question in the mock and ive no hope. what should i do??

1. visit www.constructionstudies.ie
2. read the advice on revising for the exam
3. focus on the 'hot topics'
4. download the revision notes on the homepage (note: these are for higher level)

best of luck,
trevor

Mayo_Boy

Just a quick question relating to this drawing http://www.constructionstudies.ie/2009_hl.pdf
What size is the footpath?

Trev64

100mm - it's not really that important

Mayo_Boy

Thanks. Another question, do the examiners correcting the paper actually take a measurement of every single part of the drawing question?

Trev64

No. There are typically 4 or 6 marks (out of 60) for scale and draughting. So, get the main parts right and do the small parts (e.g.wiindow cill) by eye.

Geographyhater

Trev64 wrote: »

No. There are typically 4 or 6 marks (out of 60) for scale and draughting. So, get the main parts right and do the small parts (e.g.wiindow cill) by eye.

When drawing the window + eaves how much of the roof has to be drawn??

Mayo_Boy

Trev64 wrote: »

No. There are typically 4 or 6 marks (out of 60) for scale and draughting. So, get the main parts right and do the small parts (e.g.wiindow cill) by eye.

Thanks again Trevor

insua

Do you actually get/lose marks for marking out the page? ( 10mm in on each side and title box on top )

Mayo_Boy

insua wrote: »

Do you actually get/lose marks for marking out the page? ( 10mm in on each side and title box on top )

As far as I know you don't get any marks for putting a border on the page and you won't loose any by not putting one on

Mayo_Boy

More questions :rolleyes:
How much are we expected to write per question? Whats the minimum number of pages we should be writing including sketches?

Bears and Vodka

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

More questions :rolleyes:
How much are we expected to write per question? Whats the minimum number of pages we should be writing including sketches?

Quality over quantity.

But write down absolutely everything you know about whatever they're asking is as good advice as any?

WilhelmFink

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

More questions :rolleyes:
How much are we expected to write per question? Whats the minimum number of pages we should be writing including sketches?

I'd say 2.5 pages/question? That's what I did & I got good results. Ymmv.


But, an important fact, the sketches according to the marking scheme are worth 50% of total marks of some questions!

So include sketches, & a reasonable amount of decent sized sketches.
And only colour them once everything else is done!

padbro

patrickkelly wrote: »

Lads Just a tip for ye, look into Rain-Water Harvesting! Very good feeling this will appear!

septic tanks is also hotly tipped to come up, since the whole craic about the charges and all that...

WarZoneBrother

Can you use graph paper for your drawings???

Mayo_Boy

WarZoneBrother wrote: »

Can you use graph paper for your drawings???

No. Never heard of anyone using graph paper for the drawings before

acorn1702

WarZoneBrother wrote: »

Can you use graph paper for your drawings???

The scale is usually 1:5 (or 1:10 for the bigger drawings)

Some of them barely fit on the A3 page (Fireplace to foundation for example),So you will need to be using an A3 page.

Mayo_Boy

acorn1702 wrote: »

Some of them barely fit on the A3 page (Fireplace to foundation for example),So you will need to be using an A3 page.

You could always turn the page so its vertical for doing drawings like the fireplace or window ope

CramCramCram

What's everybody looking over for today?

Bears and Vodka

CramCramCram wrote: »

What's everybody looking over for today?

Drawings, U-Value, Passive House, maybe sewerage. That should guarantee me 5 questions I'd say!

Trev64

insua wrote: »

Do you actually get/lose marks for marking out the page? ( 10mm in on each side and title box on top )

No marks for borders or title blocks - use the time to do something productive.

For more info on question one visit: http://www.constructionstudies.ie/topics/question-one.html

Be sure to read the text in red at the bottom of the page.

Trev64

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

You could always turn the page so its vertical for doing drawings like the fireplace or window ope

You'll be given an A2 sheet in the exam centre so you should have plenty of room.

Bears and Vodka

Here are some of the drawings if you are missing any.

http://homepage.tinet.ie/~abbeynet/Drawings/drawing_entry.htm

Bears and Vodka

Trev64 wrote: »

For more info on question one visit: http://www.constructionstudies.ie/topics/question-one.html

Be sure to read the text in red at the bottom of the page.

What do you mean by airtightness details?
When we do drawing we only show the Radon barrier/DPC in red but never any airtight details in blue.. is it necessary?

Trev64

subz3r0 wrote: »

What do you mean by airtightness details?
When we do drawing we only show the Radon barrier/DPC in red but never any airtight details in blue.. is it necessary?

If you look at the eaves section it's the blue line at ceiling level etc.

I actually forgot to draw it on the suspended timber ground floor drawing - it should a blue line under the flooring and running up the wall behind the plaster (which is behind the skirting board in this drawing).

I'm going offline now folks... I'll try to check in again tonight.
best of luck!
trevor

insua

Anyone learning the flat roof drawing?

Mayo_Boy

If I just focus on the following topics will I be ok for tomorrow?

Drawings for Q1 only (Mainly suspended timber floor, chimney, eaves detail/window ope)
Passive house/sunspaces
U-Values
Air-tightness
MVHR
And what maybe Safety?

celtic10000

Whats everyones predictions for the test?
Also, when we are asked for freehand sketches, does that mean we should do a sketch for each point we have or can we just only do sketches if nessesary? (eg. if im doing a safety question is there any point in me sketching for each point if i have about 10 points?)

Also do ye think there could be a surprise in Q1, Q5, or Q7 this year or do ye think it'll be the same old stuff? (Eaves & Cill, Suspended Floor, Fireplace, Stairs)

conlufc

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

If I just focus on the following topics will I be ok for tomorrow?

Drawings for Q1 only (Mainly suspended timber floor, chimney, eaves detail/window ope)
Passive house/sunspaces
U-Values
Air-tightness
MVHR
And what maybe Safety?

I'd add wastewater treatment to the list and look over lux/light questions. Very easy 20/30 minutes work and hasn't come up in a long time...

cdhide

Whats this one gonna be like? What's ye're predictions/preferences for question 1?

Mayo_Boy

Whats the distance between each of the tassel walls in a suspended timber floor?

conlufc

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

Whats the distance between each of the tassel walls in a suspended timber floor?

About 400mm I think. Don't think there's a definite dimension for it.
Have the dimensions of the tassel wall(75mm), DPC(150mm), the foundation and the conc wall.. easiest to remember

conlufc

insua wrote: »

Anyone learning the flat roof drawing?

Worth a look. Came up in the u values question in 2005 and in the mock this year I think

dg647

The distance between the tassel walls is approximately 2 metres from centre to centre (I think it's 2.3M max).

Jimdwyer

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

Whats the distance between each of the tassel walls in a suspended timber floor?

400mm between centers.

insua

dg647 wrote: »

The distance between the tassel walls is approximately 2 metres from centre to centre (I think it's 2.3M max).

That's way too big

ManTheSam

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

Whats the distance between each of the tassel walls in a suspended timber floor?

I have it down as 1.5m.

_pure_mule_

ManTheSam wrote: »

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

Whats the distance between each of the tassel walls in a suspended timber floor?

I have it down as 1.5m.

It's 1.8m I think

Bears and Vodka

Lads, as long as you have 12 correct details right it won't make much of a difference

Mayo_Boy

I really am screwed for this, I only know the suspended timber floor, window/eaves detail and sort of know the chimney drawing and haven't a clue of the rest

D.murphy

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

I really am screwed for this, I only know the suspended timber floor, window/eaves detail and sort of know the chimney drawing and haven't a clue of the rest

same as me!

Bears and Vodka

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

I really am screwed for this, I only know the suspended timber floor, window/eaves detail and sort of know the chimney drawing and haven't a clue of the rest

Learn stairs. It's handy enough as it's just repeating the same element for the most of it.

Hopefully both drawings questions will go our way tomorrow.

Geographyhater

subz3r0 wrote: »

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

I really am screwed for this, I only know the suspended timber floor, window/eaves detail and sort of know the chimney drawing and haven't a clue of the rest

Learn stairs. It's handy enough as it's just repeating the same element for the most of it.

Hopefully both drawings questions will go our way tomorrow.

Tats all im worried bout

Mayo_Boy

subz3r0 wrote: »

Learn stairs. It's handy enough as it's just repeating the same element for the most of it.

Hopefully both drawings questions will go our way tomorrow.

Im only planning on doing the one drawing question because im not the best at them

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celtic10000

Ive a feeling were gonna get no stairs, no suspended floor or fireplace and a horrible u value question!!!