** Engineering 2012 - Before / After thread

WarZoneBrother

Hey,

I am so screwed for engineering tomorrow... Does anyone have any short notes or know any site with short notes that I could read and possibly get to pass the exam tomorrow... Doing Higher Level, just hoping to pass or maybe try and get a C anyways...

All help appreciated..

Thanks,
john

IRA 1916

https://sites.google.com/site/gobanengineeringnotes/

hmf300

Whats everyone covering tonight for engineering? i no english is much more important but it has to be done

IRA 1916

hmf300 wrote: »

Whats everyone covering tonight for engineering? i no english is much more important but it has to be done

Must have a good look over the laser, sorted for short questions and questions 2,6 and 8. Undecided whether I'll do question 5 or 7 yet, I'll do both if I have time

hmf300

IRA 1916 wrote: »

Must have a good look over the laser, sorted for short questions and questions 2,6 and 8. Undecided whether I'll do question 5 or 7 yet, I'll do both if I have time

what are you using for theory? the book?

Geographyhater

Ill be doing question 2, 4, 5 and 6 these are the easiest in my opinion! I took notes from past paper answers on examinations.ie its cery repetitive!

IRA 1916

hmf300 wrote: »

what are you using for theory? the book?

Yeah the book, goban engineering website and our teacher put his notes on our USB

IRA 1916

Geographyhater wrote: »

Ill be doing question 2, 4, 5 and 6 these are the easiest in my opinion! I took notes from past paper answers on examinations.ie its cery repetitive!

Not a fan of question 4 at all I rather 7 and 8.

Geographyhater

IRA 1916 wrote: »

Geographyhater wrote: »

Ill be doing question 2, 4, 5 and 6 these are the easiest in my opinion! I took notes from past paper answers on examinations.ie its cery repetitive!

Not a fan of question 4 at all I rather 7 and 8.

Actually que 4 is the easiest question on the paper very little on it got 50/50 in the mocks! But sure attempt all!

IRA 1916

Geographyhater wrote: »

Actually que 4 is the easiest question on the paper very little on it got 50/50 in the mocks! But sure attempt all!

How are you set for the laser question? And what are you hoping for in Engineering? If I get anything higher than 60% in the written test I'll be happy

Mayo_Boy

Do the answers to all questions need to be fairly identical to the marking scheme to score full marks?

MattHelders

Do you get log tables?

I must say I'd be disappointed with anything less than 75%

Engineering is by far the easiest test you will do

partyatmygaff

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

Do the answers to all questions need to be fairly identical to the marking scheme to score full marks?

Not really, no. As long as it's correct and relevant to the question you'll get full marks.

IRA 1916

MattHelders wrote: »

Do you get log tables?

I must say I'd be disappointed with anything less than 75%

Engineering is by far the easiest test you will do

Yeah ask for them

Mayo_Boy

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Not really, no. As long as it's correct and relevant to the question you'll get full marks.

Thanks for that. Im really worried that I'll go down from what I got in the mocks (B1)

IRA 1916

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

Thanks for that. Im really worried that I'll go down from what I got in the mocks (B1)

I got 62 in the mock but didnt do the laser question. Have you a good project?

IRA 1916

These are the marks I hope to get tomorrow
Q1 A-45 marks B-25 marks
Q2- 40
Q6- 35
Q7- 35
Q8- 35

WarZoneBrother

Given up on this, it's such a boring subject for me and although I nearly completed both projects (didn't get day practical together) It will be a miracle if I pass... Why oh why did I choose this subject

Damianlegend

WarZoneBrother wrote: »

Given up on this, it's such a boring subject for me and although I nearly completed both projects (didn't get day practical together) It will be a miracle if I pass... Why oh why did I choose this subject

y man im fu***d is well..not gonna bother finishing off my portfolio..and im screwed for the theory..i mite just pass it tho..

hmf300

what should i look over before the test lads? plastics,metal and lazer? where would i get answers,

WarZoneBrother

Damianlegend wrote: »

y man im fu***d is well..not gonna bother finishing off my portfolio..and im screwed for the theory..i mite just pass it tho..

I done a crap portfolio, my lunar roving vehicle is going to come apart... (when I last checked it some screws may have been changed as they where not screwed with nuts... Either someone removed my screws or I never put them in).. My LRV is running though the wheels fall off though its a horrible mess...

Maybe I will pass but holy crap like some of the sh1t they ask you in the exam is irrelative imo.. I never used any laser machines in all my 6 years so why do I need to know about them? The whole course is a complete balls... If only my school had Technology instead...

EDIT: All I actually know for tomorrow is Lasers and Brinell and Vickers... Maybe be fit to label some diagrams or something...

mockgenius

Wasn't the worst of tests but was definitely harder than most years

hmf300

was tough enough but i got alot of the answers answered. finished after an hour.. anyone else finish very early?higher level of course

MattHelders

I thought it was fairly handy.
Lasers were probably my worst question

Geographyhater

MattHelders wrote: »

I thought it was fairly handy.
Lasers were probably my worst question

Everything went gr8 accept lasers hard enuf question!!

IRA 1916

Didn't like it all. No stress/strain or load/extension graph and no circuit at the end of Q8

Geographyhater

IRA 1916 wrote: »

Didn't like it all. No stress/strain or load/extension graph and no circuit at the end of Q8

Question 2 part b was weird this year too

partyatmygaff

Did they finally go for some novel questions this year in Engineering? I was afraid of that happening last year but aside from a few "new" questions the questions were by and large recycled from past years.

Edit: Just had a look at the paper. A small amount of the questions *looked* a bit different but aside from that I can't see much out of the ordinary.

Mayo_Boy

IRA 1916 wrote: »

Didn't like it all. No stress/strain or load/extension graph and no circuit at the end of Q8

For some funny reason I had a feeling that it was going to be one of those graphs for question 2 and I never looked over it The laser question was a disaster too
My grade will definitely be worse than in the mock

CWF

Here's the higher level exam paper
http://examinations.ie/archive/exampapers/2012/LC027ALP000EV.pdf

ImpossibleDuck

Lasers was very nasty. We were lured into a false sense of security by our mock papers. Got 50/50 in the mock and I'll be happy with 40/50 today. The step up was like Foundation to Higher :pac:

Some unusual questions this year, if I'm honest. Quite a few never-before-seen ones.

With my admittedly awful practical half of the exam, I needed 95+ in that exam today to maintain my average required grade. Still relatively confident of an A on the theory side of things.

Does anyone know when a (even unofficial) marking scheme will come out for this? So I put a decent number on what I got?

Also, apparently Q5 was very, very easy. A guaranteed 50 according to my mate. Kicking myself for not doing it now.

spurious

The marking schemes come out usually just in time for viewing the papers at the end of August.

ImpossibleDuck

spurious wrote: »

The marking schemes come out usually just in time for viewing the papers at the end of August.

Thanks. That's a lot later than I expected. You seem to be in-the-know around these parts, so maybe you could tell me, from previous years, are there ever any unofficial marking schemes made up? Here, on boards for example?

celtic10000

I know its not the best thing to be doing anylsing my test but can anyone tell me the manufacturing process for the helmet and maybe Q (g) and Q (M) in the short Qs cause im just curious

partyatmygaff

ImpossibleDuck wrote: »

Thanks. That's a lot later than I expected. You seem to be in-the-know around these parts, so maybe you could tell me, from previous years, are there ever any unofficial marking schemes made up? Here, on boards for example?

The idea of an "unofficial marking scheme" doesn't make sense. As I understand it, a marking scheme is initially drawn up after the exam. As things progress and the scripts begin to be marked alterations are made to the marking scheme to try and keep the results roughly congruent with normal distribution (Bell curve or gaussian distribution).

So in short... forget about the exam for now and focus on your remaining exams.

ImpossibleDuck

partyatmygaff wrote: »

The idea of an "unofficial marking scheme" doesn't make sense. As I understand it, a marking scheme is initially drawn up after the exam. As things progress and the scripts begin to be marked alterations are made to the marking scheme to try and keep the results roughly congruent with normal distribution (Bell curve or gaussian distribution).

So in short... forget about the exam for now and focus on your remaining exams.

Okay, so maybe marking scheme was a poor choice of words but I just mean a collection of correct answers for each question. I just kind of assumed people do this kind of stuff...maybe not :P

MattHelders

ImpossibleDuck wrote: »

Lasers was very nasty. We were lured into a false sense of security by our mock papers. Got 50/50 in the mock and I'll be happy with 40/50 today. The step up was like Foundation to Higher :pac:

Some unusual questions this year, if I'm honest. Quite a few never-before-seen ones.

With my admittedly awful practical half of the exam, I needed 95+ in that exam today to maintain my average required grade. Still relatively confident of an A on the theory side of things.

Does anyone know when a (even unofficial) marking scheme will come out for this? So I put a decent number on what I got?

Also, apparently Q5 was very, very easy. A guaranteed 50 according to my mate. Kicking myself for not doing it now.

Q.5 was very handy. It was describe the processes of SAW welding and either TIG welding or MMA welding. There was also a bit of Oxy Acetylene

partyatmygaff

ImpossibleDuck wrote: »

Okay, so maybe marking scheme was a poor choice of words but I just mean a collection of correct answers for each question. I just kind of assumed people do this kind of stuff...maybe not :P

Oh well that's definitely happened before. I think Maybe_memories (TCD Maths student) actually did out solutions for the HL Maths papers last year. Aside from that, I haven't seen anyone draft a set of correct answers for other subjects.

ImpossibleDuck

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Oh well that's definitely happened before. I think Maybe_memories (TCD Maths student) actually did out solutions for the HL Maths papers last year. Aside from that, I haven't seen anyone draft a set of correct answers for other subjects.

Okay, thanks for the info!