new entrants

case 5150

hi all just wondering with the lower milk prices how many new entrants will now bother getting in ?

was at a disscussion group wednesday last and teagasc was saying not as many applied for the free quota as previous years wonder was this because of prices dropping as it seems fashion if 1 thing is going good this year we all go do it next year.

KCTK

case 5150 wrote: »

hi all just wondering with the lower milk prices how many new entrants will now bother getting in ?

was at a disscussion group wednesday last and teagasc was saying not as many applied for the free quota as previous years wonder was this because of prices dropping as it seems fashion if 1 thing is going good this year we all go do it next year.

Hey, applied and plans progressing every day to be in milk next spring, fingers crossed on the new entrants quote, hope what you heard on less applying is correct as more chance for me getting some!!!

When I was deciding on going down the milk route I was not basing my decision on last years milk price as that would have been stupid but from the sound of what you are hearing alot of the potential new entrants were, changing to dairy is not meant to be done on a whim because even keeping set up costs to a minimum it is still a relatively large committment and not somethpng you should/can be backing out of after a few years.

case 5150

KCTK wrote: »

Hey, applied and plans progressing every day to be in milk next spring, fingers crossed on the new entrants quote, hope what you heard on less applying is correct as more chance for me getting some!!!

When I was deciding on going down the milk route I was not basing my decision on last years milk price as that would have been stupid but from the sound of what you are hearing alot of the potential new entrants were, changing to dairy is not meant to be done on a whim because even keeping set up costs to a minimum it is still a relatively large committment and not somethpng you should/can be backing out of after a few years.

what caterogry did you apply in? ie did you buy quota in the trading round previously? best of luck with it

KCTK

case 5150 wrote: »

what caterogry did you apply in? ie did you buy quota in the trading round previously? best of luck with it

Category 1 I am in under, hoping to purchase from trading scheme in next few rounds then. Cheers

case 5150

Wen ye expecting word back out about de quota?

KCTK

Supposed to be around the end of this month i have heard, but I have not got any definite date

farmerjack

According to the farming independent a couple of weeks back there was 265 applications under all categories. Is this your first year to apply?

KCTK

Ya first year applying, I wonder what the split was between people with no quota and those with some already, know that the amount who will be allocated quota under the no current quota scheme is 50 maximum.

Indications I was hearing from Teagasc and independant consultants early in the year was for a much higher number than 265, guess the pressure on milk prices this spring made some guys (and gals) reconsider.

KCTK

KCTK wrote: »

Supposed to be around the end of this month i have heard, but I have not got any definite date

I found out today that it will actually be early August before anybody will find out if successful or not, great turn around time!!!

case 5150

Well that be typical of the department. Where did u find that out as a neighbour of mine applied for it too! Ah say it be earlier than that

KCTK

Was searching for something else and came across this answer to a Dail question on it http://debates.oireachtas.ie/dail/2012/05/22/00341.asp

Called the Milk Quota section in the Department today also to see and they have the same story, hopefully you are right and that it is all sorted earlier, but....

farmerjack

Last year the closing date for applications was a month earlier and results were released in early July. So I would say it won't be till August. It leaves time very tight alright.

case 5150

jesus at that stag time is tight, by the time 1 looks for a loan and it been approved is late oct maybe november, how is 1 suppose ta b up and running in feb is a wonder! typical dept take ages ta make up there minds

kevthegaff

i got into dairy 5 yrs ago and applied for new entrant scheme, i got 2k gallons. Got a letter in the post today about doing a dairy course for a week costing 265 euros:mad:, bloody hell ive no time for doing this, and im still paying back for my original quota bought:(

case 5150

kevthegaff interested in your situation as a young lad up the rd from me applied and bought quota in april in the trading scheme he got 27000 ltrs or something along that line, he applied for this free quota but if he doesnt get it what are his options for starting in feb, how did you build up your quota and how many cows did you start with and what you milking today

mattthetrasher

bulk tank repair man told me they had a lot of new tanks for new entrants put on hold after the recent price cuts.

kevthegaff

case 5150 wrote: »

kevthegaff interested in your situation as a young lad up the rd from me applied and bought quota in april in the trading scheme he got 27000 ltrs or something along that line, he applied for this free quota but if he doesnt get it what are his options for starting in feb, how did you build up your quota and how many cows did you start with and what you milking today

i started with 30-40 cows, bought quota at 26c/litre in the beginning. luckily i wasnt caught with a superlevy bill so far! im upto 85 cows with 49k gallon quota, still gambling on no superlevy(smaller than 77k gallon producers get more temp lease, flexi milk. im also still getting small amounts in the quota trading scheme from the priority pool. low cost system but i still have a lot of loans from quota, stock and set up costs. If i were him id apply for temp lease, priority and start small and build up(hope that helps)

case 5150

Cheers kev, much quota you start out with in year 1, 2, 3, 4, and you find it hard to get temp leasing!

case 5150

just wondering whats the latest on the new entrants, did anyone get called for a interview and is it still been announced early august

KCTK

case 5150 wrote: »

just wondering whats the latest on the new entrants, did anyone get called for a interview and is it still been announced early august

I think you'll only get called to an interview if there is something they don't understand in your plan, say they are very rare. Haven't seen anything since on when announcement will be made but sure they way thing work in this country early August will probably be the first week of September....

case 5150

Heard last week that the deciding panel were meetin last week, anyone else hear this nd say decision is made by now if they did, wonder word be out next week, what de opinion on this?

case 956

well did anone hear when they going to release the info on who got it or not?? long time gone now

KCTK

case 956 wrote: »

well did anone hear when they going to release the info on who got it or not?? long time gone now

Next year maybe!!! No, I called them there and the week after next they are saying now (so could be next year yet....)

case 956

not this week, or next week but the week after, wtf is taing them so long

case 956

KCTK wrote: »

Next year maybe!!! No, I called them there and the week after next they are saying now (so could be next year yet....)

kctk what did they say when you rang?? is the decision even made yet did the say

KCTK

case 956 wrote: »

kctk what did they say when you rang?? is the decision even made yet did the say

Talked to a guy who sounded half asleep, said they were being looked at and hopefully would be ready to send out decisions end of next week but would probably be the week after, must have all been off for the Olympics!!!

case 956

The decision s out, i got no word yet did anyone else hear or how do you go bouts finding out

KCTK

case 956 wrote: »

The decision s out, i got no word yet did anyone else hear or how do you go bouts finding out

Supposed to be in the post so should have it tomorrow

case 956

If you rang them would dey tell ya whether wot had it or not nd is suppose ta be in de post dis evening

KCTK

case 956 wrote: »

If you rang them would dey tell ya whether wot had it or not nd is suppose ta be in de post dis evening

You having a laugh, they would have to do something then if they gave out the info over the phone!!! Hopefully now one of them remembered to actually post the letters.....

case 956

jesus i confused is the letters in the post tonight is that what you saying

KCTK

case 956 wrote: »

jesus i confused is the letters in the post tonight is that what you saying

Sorry for that, ya supposed to have been posted today so should have it tomorrow

case 5150

best of luck kctk in it, were you in caterogry A

KCTK

case 5150 wrote: »

best of luck kctk in it, were you in caterogry A

Ya A, best of luck too to you case 5150

case 956

Well how u get on ktck

KCTK

case 956 wrote: »

Well how u get on ktck

Dont see postman around our place until about 1 o clock, cant pick up from post office either. How did you get on?

case 956

Didnt get cos de green cert wasnt published, it a set back but may just buy more quota ta be up nd running in Feb

KCTK

case 956 wrote: »

Didnt get cos de green cert wasnt published, it a set back but may just buy more quota ta be up nd running in Feb

Jez there is always some little thing they will try pulling you up on, date of publishing a piece of paper makes a difference (take it you have it completed!). You have a few gallons dont you so least you can supply before April, way this disaster of a year is going and from reports I hear from farmers down here re drying off early etc I dont think the country will be over quota come end of March, unless we get a big turn around and a really early spring again.

case 956

Well ktck how did u get on?

KCTK

case 956 wrote: »

Well ktck how did u get on?

No good either i'm afraid, looks like going to have to figure out plan b!!!!