Mc Donalds And Baby Changing

admiralofthefleet

So i was in mc donalds today having a burger and had 7 month old son with me. eventually he needed to be changed so off i went to the baby changing in the toilets
the next part enraged me. there was no baby changing in the gents and no disabled toilet, the baby changing area is only in the ladies.
i asked a member of staff where was i able to change the baby and she said 'only in the ladies but obviously you cant go in there'.
i couldnt believe it, the baby was starting to get cranky but she stood at the door of the ladies blocking it so there was no way i could go in.

im very angry over this, i feel its sexist that baby changing is only available in the ladies toilets. i ended up changing him in the car but could have prevented him crying for half an hour if baby changing was available to men. it was the donaghmede branch of mc donalds. im seriously thinking of ringing joe tomorrow over this and going further

thoughts?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

mcdonalds cant be expected to cater to the minority of babies who will need to be changed by men...

eth0

You should have bought another burger, taken a bite out of it, change the baby in the car and put some of it's 'special sauce' on the burger and brought it back to em

Pushtrak

Simple. Don't eat in McDonalds. This incident isn't the only reason to justify such a move.

smash

Ah answer: Should have changed the baby on the counter...

Real answer: there's a counter beside the sink!

Mickey Lover

I would have changed the baby on one of their tables - that'll teach them

Cookie_Monster

what did they ever do back in the day without such facilities eh?

admiralofthefleet

Mickey Lover wrote: »

I would have changed the baby on one of their tables - that'll teach them

thats what i was thinking after

Battered Mars Bar

Wtf Could you not just lob him up on the sink counter in the mens jacks?

Cookie_Monster

sugarman wrote: »

The largest fastfood chain in the world?:rolleyes:

yeah exactly, they're a fastfood outlet, not a creche

admiralofthefleet

Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

Wtf Could you not just lob him up on the sink counter in the mens jacks?

its was manky

Battered Mars Bar

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

its was manky

few tissues be grand

LH Pathe

so that's what the patties are made from? fùckn clown for a mascot; shoulda known

admiralofthefleet

Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

few tissues be grand

i felt like a few naggins afterwards

PinkFly

First world problem don't ya just love 'em

cbyrd

You are perfectly within your rights to go into the ladies and use the babychanger... my husband does it all the time when he's out with the youngest 2 who are in nappies.. if they don't provide it in the men's or a separate changing room they leave you with no choice and cannot ask you to leave. And if they did i'd tell them to fu@k off

Mr.Biscuits

Sounds like you had shit day overall and even chose to eat some to.

admiralofthefleet

cbyrd wrote: »

You are perfectly within your rights to go into the ladies and use the babychanger... my husband does it all the time when he's out with the youngest 2 who are in nappies.. if they don't provide it in the men's or a separate changing room they leave you with no choice and cannot ask you to leave. And if they did i'd tell them to fu@k off

they never told me to leave, i just left and changed him in the car. in hindsight i should have just changed him at the table

Canis Lupus

Such a daft policy to not let you into the ladies. Were they worried you might see some women washing their hands?

PinkFly

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

cbyrd wrote: »

You are perfectly within your rights to go into the ladies and use the babychanger... my husband does it all the time when he's out with the youngest 2 who are in nappies.. if they don't provide it in the men's or a separate changing room they leave you with no choice and cannot ask you to leave. And if they did i'd tell them to fu@k off

they never told me to leave, i just left and changed him in the car. in hindsight i should have just changed him at the table

Or in the cubicle on your knee??

LH Pathe

Mr.Biscuits wrote: »

Sounds like you had shit day overall and even chose to eat some to.

McDonalds sorta has the kiddie market by teh not even developed yet balls; long befre they're even born I reckon there's McD TV bein beamed into our unsuspecting wombs and siezing their little hearts n minds

guppy

You should absolutely phone Joe! That is a disgrace, everywhere should provide baby changing facilities. This country is so anti family it's ridiculous. Everyone with a child should have the appropriate facilities to change them standing up (the adults) without being inconvenienced.


(Or learn to change the baby on your knee, in a cubicle, like I did. Even 5 years ago a lot of places had no facilities, so I adapted)

wmpdd3

i'd go to the mens if thats where it was. (female)

I can do it in the buggy in 20 seconds. needs must

lord lucan

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

mcdonalds cant be expected to cater to the minority of babies who will need to be changed by men...

Not really a minority these days. I see as many men bringing their kids out for the day as women. If this was the other way around the RTE switchboard would blow up with enraged wimmins complaining to Joe and summoning up the ghost of the suffragettes.

Scioch

I find it hard to believe she stood in the doorway to block you going in. Ya sure you even ask if you could go in ?

If she did block you and you didnt ask for the manager then you havent much to whinge about either. I'd wager there isnt a manager in the world who'd choose a shítty crying baby in their restaurant over allowing a man into the ladies jacks for 2 minutes.

bfocusd

I thought they all had to comply with the disability regulation and supply a disabled toilet? Or was it combined with the womens bathroom or something?

Usually for men they have the use of the changing station in the disability toilet rather than in the men's room itself

admiralofthefleet

lord lucan wrote: »

Not really a minority these days. I see as many men bringing their kids out for the day as women. If this was the other way around the RTE switchboard would blow up with enraged wimmins complaining to Joe and summoning up the ghost of the suffragettes.

i was saying to a woman on the way out that if a cafe didnt have a ladies toilets there would be war and it would be top of the 6.01 news

admiralofthefleet

LordSmeg wrote: »

I find it hard to believe she stood in the doorway to block you going in. Ya sure you even ask if you could go in ?

If she did block you and you didnt ask for the manager then you havent much to whinge about either. I'd wager there isnt a manager in the world who'd choose a shítty crying baby in their restaurant over allowing a man into the ladies jacks for 2 minutes.

she did

a few times

IrishAm

Children should be banned from all restaurants and bars.

Problem solved.

LH Pathe

PinkFly wrote: »

First world problem don't ya just love 'em

same shìt / different wold

Scioch

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

she did

a few times

Did you ask for a manager or supervisor ?

Paparazzo

I would have barged past into the ladies.

admiralofthefleet

LordSmeg wrote: »

Did you ask for a manager or supervisor ?

no. i left cause i literally just wanted to get out of there

stupidusername

Oh dear. I wrote in R&R earlier today about an experience I had with a lady needing to change her baby's nappy. We were in a restaurant, just about to eat our meals, when this woman put her baby on her lap and started changing it's nappy. I was like :eek: She did it in full view of everyone, didn't make any attempt to cover up. there were two toilets, as to why she couldn't do that in one of them I don't know. She was complaining about there being no baby changing facilities, when a) she'd brought stuff in from McDonalds up the road, b) if she could change it on her lap she could've done it in the toilet and c) she left right after doing that so surely it could've waited.

I was thinking to myself why didn't she go back to the McDonalds they'd obviously been to and use the facilities there, but then maybe they hadn't got changing facilities there.

Zhane

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

no. i left cause i literally just wanted to get out of there

So you complain on boards.ie rather than to someone who could have helped the situation? :rolleyes:

guppy

Does the centre itself not have facilities? How come it took you 30 minutes to get to your car anyway?

guppy

stupidusername wrote: »

Oh dear. I wrote in R&R earlier today about an experience I had with a lady needing to change her baby's nappy. We were in a restaurant, just about to eat our meals, when this woman put her baby on her lap and started changing it's nappy. I was like :eek: She did it in full view of everyone, didn't make any attempt to cover up. there were two toilets, as to why she couldn't do that in one of them I don't know. She was complaining about there being no baby changing facilities, when a) she'd brought stuff in from McDonalds up the road, b) if she could change it on her lap she could've done it in the toilet and c) she left right after doing that so surely it could've waited.

I was thinking to myself why didn't she go back to the McDonalds they'd obviously been to and use the facilities there, but then maybe they hadn't got changing facilities there.

That is revolting (I have 2 kids). No need to make a point by making other diners vomit.

teishen

You should have told her to move and gone into the ladies anyway, sure none of the women would have minded seeing you've a baby to change. The only glimpse of a woman you'd catch would be one using the sinks.

Scioch

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

no. i left cause i literally just wanted to get out of there

Chances are you were dealing with someone who didnt know how to handle the situation and a manager would of had no problem helping you out.

stupidusername

teishen wrote: »

...sure none of the women would have minded seeing you've a baby to change..

am, what?

teishen

stupidusername wrote: »

am, what?

If you walk into the ladies toilet as a man, with a baby in your arms to change, no woman will give you any grief.

Mr.Biscuits

Nah, she'll just kick you in the balls and scream:

"That bastards kidnapped a child!!"

Fighting Irish

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

So i was in mc donalds today having a burger and had 7 month old son with me. eventually he needed to be changed so off i went to the baby changing in the toilets
the next part enraged me. there was no baby changing in the gents and no disabled toilet, the baby changing area is only in the ladies.
i asked a member of staff where was i able to change the baby and she said 'only in the ladies but obviously you cant go in there'.
i couldnt believe it, the baby was starting to get cranky but she stood at the door of the ladies blocking it so there was no way i could go in.

im very angry over this, i feel its sexist that baby changing is only available in the ladies toilets. i ended up changing him in the car but could have prevented him crying for half an hour if baby changing was available to men. it was the donaghmede branch of mc donalds. im seriously thinking of ringing joe tomorrow over this and going further

thoughts?

I'm so jealous of your life

aN.Droid

Mr.Biscuits wrote: »

Nah, she'll just kick you in the balls and scream:

"That bastards kidnapped a child!!"

Then you have her for assault and defamation so long as you didn't kidnap the child ofcourse..

Darkglasses

Call Joe, that is pretty ignorant of them, and it's a good story.

Jesus Wept

Pushtrak wrote: »

Simple. Don't eat in McDonalds. This incident isn't the only reason to justify such a move.

Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

Wtf Could you not just lob him up on the sink counter in the mens jacks?

PinkFly wrote: »

First world problem don't ya just love 'em

PinkFly wrote: »

Or in the cubicle on your knee??

Are you lot taking the fucking piss?
What an age we live in.

Pushtrak

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Are you lot taking the fucking piss?
What an age we live in.

Suppose you go somewhere and aren't happy with the service for whatever reason. Do you suppose it is a good idea to keep going there? Indeed what an age we live in.

Someone posts an issue they had with a service, and one can not point out it might be worth not returning... And this is puzzling to people. I'm not understanding where you are coming from on this. Clarify?

You took issue to my post, and one calling it first world problems. Your angle on all this is unclear.

stupidusername

teishen wrote: »

If you walk into the ladies toilet as a man, with a baby in your arms to change, no woman will give you any grief.

Is that a rule or something? I would be significantly put out by someone doing that.

2 stroke

If she blocked you from using the baby changing area, you should have handed her the baby and changing bag.

Jesus Wept

Pushtrak wrote: »

Suppose you go somewhere and aren't happy with the service for whatever reason. Do you suppose it is a good idea to keep going there? Indeed what an age we live in.

Someone posts an issue they had with a service, and one can not point out it might be worth not returning... And this is puzzling to people. I'm not understanding where you are coming from on this. Clarify?

You took issue to my post, and one calling it first world problems. Your angle on all this is unclear.

Because it's gender based discrimination obviously.

If someone offers a ****ty service to everyone, okay, just don't go there (though there must rules and regulations on facilities, quite probably ignored in this country).

If someone offers a ****ty service to one group and not another based on their gender or race, then we have a problem. That isn't too hard to wrap your head around is it?

If it helps you understand it, replace *Blocks door* - 'Sorry men can't use the baby changing facilities' with 'sorry, *Blocks door* 'Sorry, Black people can't use the baby changing facilities here. /shrug.'

Are you male or female out of curiosity?

Jesus Wept

stupidusername wrote: »

Is that a rule or something? I would be significantly put out by someone doing that.

You should consider complaining any time you are in a place that only provides females with a baby changing facility.