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Paddock planning tool?

  • 31-05-2012 12:32am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭


    Strange question time again.

    Long story short:
    Is there an online tool out there to plan/plot paddocks into an irregularly shaped piece of land?

    Short story long:
    My land is irregularly shaped, in it there are lots of obstacles such as open drains, stone walls, rock, all kinds of nice things like that. If, for arguments sake, I want to break up a 3.8 acre piece of land into 10 paddocks, is there an online tool to do this?

    If there isn't, it'd make for a handy app for some brainiac to design.

    My head is a bit wrecked scribbling all over the nice map on the Geological Survey of Ireland site :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭dar31


    try this john

    http://www.farm-file.com/

    only ever used the free bit, but good to play around with
    if you have the time and patience it would be great tool


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭cjpm


    johngalway wrote: »
    Strange question time again.

    Long story short:
    Is there an online tool out there to plan/plot paddocks into an irregularly shaped piece of land?

    Short story long:
    My land is irregularly shaped, in it there are lots of obstacles such as open drains, stone walls, rock, all kinds of nice things like that. If, for arguments sake, I want to break up a 3.8 acre piece of land into 10 paddocks, is there an online tool to do this?

    If there isn't, it'd make for a handy app for some brainiac to design.

    My head is a bit wrecked scribbling all over the nice map on the Geological Survey of Ireland site :D


    If you knew someone that uses AutoCad, you can buy the mapping digitally and then they could divide up all the fields.

    I did this for my dad's place. He's delighted with all his paddocks, almost all have paralled long ends and are as square as possible, ideal for machinery working. He's even more delighted that I didn't charge him a cent!!

    Or else you could pay one of these farm GPS mapping fellas, €€€€!!:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    cjpm wrote: »
    If you knew someone that uses AutoCad, you can buy the mapping digitally and then they could divide up all the fields......
    Who do you buy if from? Ordinance Survey?

    If you don't have Autocad or similar, try using right angled triangles. Just multiply the length X width then and divide by 2 to get the area. Triangles should be better to work with than squares for irregular shapes.

    just a thought, but if you have a lot of hilly ground, the area on a map (the arial view), will be less than the actual area of the field.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    If you could get a digital copy of the map or scan it and use a free 2D CAD program like 'Draft-it'.

    Its going to be tedious no matter what way you do it but digitally it is much more manageable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    Hi John,

    Could you use one an online tool, based on google maps?

    I use an app on me iphone called "Geo Measure"
    I am sure there are a few like it, and ones on android as well. It uses google maps, and allows you to place dots on fields, and it gives you the size enclosed by the dots. I am sure there are a few available on the web as well.

    You would need to be in an area where there are good Google satellite maps. Also - there is a bit of error to it, it prob wouldnt have the accuracy to divide a 4 acre field 10 ways...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭JohnBoy


    Trimble offer a 15 use free trial of some of their software.

    found out about it over on BFF

    http://farmingforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=63532

    that farm-file looks good too.

    it's on my dream list to have perfect paddocks :)

    My plan is to start refencing the boundary, maybe next year and put in strainers for paddock divisions while I'm at it. then come back afterwards and put in the main paddock fencing, with the layout to allow for further sub-division with temporary fencing.

    it's a nice dream at least :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭cjpm


    pakalasa wrote: »
    Who do you buy if from? Ordinance Survey?

    If you don't have Autocad or similar, try using right angled triangles. Just multiply the length X width then and divide by 2 to get the area. Triangles should be better to work with than squares for irregular shapes.

    just a thought, but if you have a lot of hilly ground, the area on a map (the arial view), will be less than the actual area of the field.


    Yeah OSI sell it digitally too.

    You could get hold of a GPS handset, walk the boundary yourself, taking a reading at each corner/kink/ river/ drain etc.

    These could then be plotted on computer, join the dots gives you the total area, then you can sub divide this into paddocks.....

    Then get the points for your internal fence corners from your drawing, head back out with your GPS and drive a peg where you need the strainers, easy!!:P:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭Kileir


    cjpm wrote: »
    If you knew someone that uses AutoCad, you can buy the mapping digitally and then they could divide up all the fields.

    I did this for my dad's place. He's delighted with all his paddocks, almost all have paralled long ends and are as square as possible, ideal for machinery working. He's even more delighted that I didn't charge him a cent!!

    Or else you could pay one of these farm GPS mapping fellas, €€€€!!:eek:

    cjpm - Any chance posting a copy of one the areas you divided up? Wouldn't mind seeing it on paper so to speak :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭TUBBY


    Heh John

    I used this one. It is good. You can draw your lines as you think it should be and it will give you the area of the section in m2. Just convert to acres and you wont be far off...

    http://spatial.dcenr.gov.ie/imf/imf.jsp?site=GSI_Simple


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