TV3 should have their licence revoked by the Government

mariano rivera

TV3 is an embarrassment to Ireland. Constant stream of poor quality Reality TV shows either imported form the USA or UK. Foreign TV soaps etc.

ITV Ireland as such

Offering nothing positive to Irish people.

You might say this is the same as hundreds of other TV Stations

However, their license to broadcast is issued by the Irish Government

Should the Irish Government revoke their license for being, well, sh*te?

El Weirdo

Moved from AH ===> Television.

Daveysil15

Possibly so. You could just choose not to watch it though.

decies

The news is dire I give you that , get rid of tg4 instead , can't understand Irish and it costs too much.

westendgirlie

Psssst.... Change the channel

sdanseo

What, and return RTÉ to a total monopoly for domestic issues? No thanks.

TV3 may be at least partly responsible for encouraging Ireland's "chavs", scumbags and other moronic behaviour which people now deem normal with their stupid programming, but alas it's not illegal. And they keep RTÉ on their toes if nothing else.

(I've never been a fan of censorship but Tallafornia/Jersey Shore type programming should, seriosuly, be made illegal for purveying the message that acting like the people in the show do is acceptable in any way)

Atlantic Dawn

Most of it is chewing gum for the eyes but it's Irish chewing gum for the eyes

Technocentral

mariano rivera wrote: »

TV3 is an embarrassment to Ireland. Constant stream of poor quality Reality TV shows either imported form the USA or UK. Foreign TV soaps etc.

ITV Ireland as such

Offering nothing positive to Irish people.

You might say this is the same as hundreds of other TV Stations

However, their license to broadcast is issued by the Irish Government

Should the Irish Government revoke their license for being, well, sh*te?

It is piss poor, but probably not as socially divisive as the likes of FM104 and its fascistic "Phone Show", that station should have its licence revoked (also for its poxy music choices ).

twistyj

I agree but thats what you get from a british tv channel

du Maurier

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Possibly so. You could just choose not to watch it though.

Hmm. To be honest, people throw out that suggestion a little too often, but I'd have to agree with the OP on this one. I'd like to think the poor content isn't indicative or aligned with the intelligence of the viewer.

Or at least it shouldn't be. Maybe some have 'adjusted' to this sort of tripe over time, due to lack of any variation, but even if they aired a higher percentage of something more cerebral that would suffice to an extent. Visual tabloids and lowest common denominator viewing isn't good for the system:pac: - not mine, anyway.

Adrian4

Tought last nights show on the Don Tidey kidnapping was pretty good.

RTE never put on shows highlighting the damage RTE done to this country.

Technocentral

Adrian4 wrote: »

Tought last nights show on the Don Tidey kidnapping was pretty good.

RTE never put on shows highlighting the damage RTE done to this country.

Unlike the way the BBC, ITV, NBC, HBO, SKY etc constantly airing programmes about the damage their networks have done to their countries :rolleyes:, Mrs Browns Boys has been very damaging to the self esteem of this country, I'll grant you that though.

Ledger

decies wrote: »

The news is dire I give you that , get rid of tg4 instead , can't understand Irish and it costs too much.

If RTE got rid of TG4, we would have a load of Irish Language programming on RTE, because they have a quota of Irish Language programmes to meet. So it would be best to leave it all on TG4. That way you know where you are.

kneemos

One redeeming feature is Vincent Brown.

mr_edge_to_you

It should have been shut down on St Stephens Day a few years ago when they decided to ruin Christmas for Brian
Lenihan and his family.

Ledger

kneemos wrote: »

One redeeming feature is Vincent Brown.

agreed.

Biggins

It may have missed the first posters mind but TV3 is a private enterprise. A business, an employment legal entity.

As such be it a media station, a newspaper, a shop or factory - unless they have been deemed to be breaking substantial laws of the state, the chances are that if the government tried to close them down, the same government would find itself in court rapid fast having to expain its crazy stupid, probabbly illegal business interfering, additionally monopolist actions - never mind actions that would also be seen as one based on curtailing media just because it disagreed with something it considered bad.

Whats next?
Close down every paper in the country just because they think they are rubbish also?

On top of this, TV3 is not propped up by state licence money either.
Unlike RTE and their complete schite that we are forced to pay for - TV3 is not taking money direct from the public pocket.

As such, it you don't like TV3, you have the additional option you know, to also turn the damn thing off.

RTE is not much better - in some cases FAR worse.

Speaking for myself, I damn glad we have an alternative TV station that is additionally not controlled directly by any government or state.
I rather we have TV3 than just Prava TV - sorry... RTE, that has its ever nose stuck continuously up the arse of the government of the day!

fro9etb8j5qsl2

mariano rivera wrote: »

TV3 is an embarrassment to Ireland. Constant stream of poor quality Reality TV shows either imported form the USA or UK

Neither Dublin Housewives nor Tallafornia were imported.....


I am ashamed to be Irish....

du Maurier

Biggins wrote: »

It may have missed the first posters mind but TV3 is a private enterprise. A business, an employment legal entity.

As such be it a media station, a newspaper, a shop or factory - unless they have been deemed to be breaking substantial laws of the state, the chances are that if the government tried to close them down, the same government would find itself in court rapid fast having to expain its crazy stupid, probabbly illegal business interfering, additionally monopolist actions - never mind actions that would also be seen as one based on curtailing media just because it disagreed with something it considered bad.

Whats next?
Close down every paper in the country just because they think they are rubbish also?

On top of this, TV3 is not propped up by state licence money either.
Unlike RTE and their complete schite that we are forced to pay for - TV3 is not taking money direct from the public pocket.

As such, it you don't like TV3, you have the additional option you know, to also turn the damn thing off.

RTE is not much better - in some cases FAR worse.

Speaking for myself, I damn glad we have an alternative TV station that is additionally not controlled directly by any government or state.
I rather we have TV3 than just Prava TV - sorry... RTE, that has its ever nose stuck continuously up the arse of the government of the day!

Let the agenda begin..just there.

blinkey 101

Dublin" house wives" ➡💩talafornia ➡💩 enough said 👎!!!

flyswatter

decies wrote: »

The news is dire I give you that , get rid of tg4 instead , can't understand Irish and it costs too much.

So TG4 should be abolished because you can't understand it?

Might as well stick another 2 nails in the coffin of the Irish language then.

It's a very good channel for it's small budget. Doesn't cost the state nearly as much as RTE.

Heavenly Witty Xerox

Heavenly Witty Xerox wrote: »

Neither Dublin Housewives nor Tallafornia were imported.....


I am ashamed to be Irish....

The concept was imported. I imagine that TV3 bought the rights to remake shows such as Jersey Shore and Beverly Hills Wives or something similarly titled.

mariano rivera

Biggins wrote: »

It may have missed the first posters mind but TV3 is a private enterprise. A business, an employment legal entity.

As such be it a media station, a newspaper, a shop or factory - unless they have been deemed to be breaking substantial laws of the state, the chances are that if the government tried to close them down, the same government would find itself in court rapid fast having to expain its crazy stupid, probabbly illegal business interfering, additionally monopolist actions - never mind actions that would also be seen as one based on curtailing media just because it disagreed with something it considered bad.

Whats next?
Close down every paper in the country just because they think they are rubbish also?

On top of this, TV3 is not propped up by state licence money either.
Unlike RTE and their complete schite that we are forced to pay for - TV3 is not taking money direct from the public pocket.

As such, it you don't like TV3, you have the additional option you know, to also turn the damn thing off.

RTE is not much better - in some cases FAR worse.

Speaking for myself, I damn glad we have an alternative TV station that is additionally not controlled directly by any government or state.
I rather we have TV3 than just Prava TV - sorry... RTE, that has its ever nose stuck continuously up the arse of the government of the day!

Yes, I know i can turn it off. Its not the point.

The station may be a private company but it only operates because it has license from the state to broadcast

I am sure there would be a long list of quality applicants if another station licence was available

TV3 is in a position of power.

Its views/ideas can be be carried to a huge portion of the population. Way more than any newspaper, writer, political party etc.

i do not care for rte either and i would have many gripes with the station

But the fact of the matter is TV3 is useless to the people of Ireland


It offers nothing. Zero. Nada

In these times where Ireland needs some new ideas, innovation, thinking outside the box, perhaps inspiration the station is an outstanding and continual failure to the country of Ireland

flyswatter

I'd imagine it serves a purpose to people who can't receive ITV in Ireland.

Jesus Wept

TV3 are great. They don't expect a penny from me.
Go away.

charlemont

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

It should have been shut down on St Stephens Day a few years ago when they decided to ruin Christmas for Brian
Lenihan and his family.

And Brian Lenihan never ruined Christmas for thousands of families..:rolleyes:

3hn2givr7mx1sc

decies wrote: »

The news is dire I give you that , get rid of tg4 instead , can't understand Irish and it costs too much.

TG4 has some excellent programmes an documentaries, in both Irish and English.

And there'd be no western of a Friday night!:pac:

ixoy

baz2009 wrote: »

TG4 has some excellent programmes an documentaries, in both Irish and English.

TG4 brought "The Wire" to Ireland about 3 or 4 years before anywhere else in Ireland or the UK. For this it will always get a free pass from me.

Cantona's Collars

ixoy wrote: »

TG4 brought "The Wire" to Ireland about 3 or 4 years before anywhere else in Ireland or the UK. For this it will always get a free pass from me.

True,and they showed Oz.

TV3 is pointless,soaps and reality rubbish along with endless repeats.Anyone with ITV should never need to watch TV3.

kneemos

zerks wrote: »

True,and they showed Oz.

TV3 is pointless,soaps and reality rubbish along with endless repeats.Anyone with ITV should never need to watch TV3.

I'd forgotton all about Oz, really liked it. Some great documenty's on there as well.

Ledger

charlemont wrote: »

And Brian Lenihan never ruined Christmas for thousands of families..:rolleyes:

The man had cancer and subsequently died from it. TV3 was very, very wrong.

Ash.J.Williams

by the way isn't tv3 what RTE would be if it went private??

(lots of posters here want RTE to go private)

Elmo

Ledger wrote: »

The man had cancer and subsequently died from it. TV3 was very, very wrong.

TV3 don't a have a full news service at the weekends they certainly don't have a full news service at christmas, yet they insisted that they do It was purely to have such news first.

TV3 owe 135million or so to Anglo Irish (IRBC) they have had that loan restructure in effect they are being subsidized by the public. TV3 also have access to the sound and vision fund (and some of the programmes from that have been good). The sound and vision fund is funded by the licence fee.

Irish broadcasting needs a complete over hall.

• RTÉ should be given the following radio and television services

• RTÉ 1
• RTÉ News Now
• RTÉ Gold (an archive/arts channel)
• RTÉ Radio 1
• RTÉ Radio 1 extra
• RTÉ Lyric FM
• RTÉ Choice
• RTÉ Gold

• A new semistate commerical broadcaster to be set up with the following TV and Radio services with no Licence fee given too it.

• RTÉ Two
• RTÉ Two Plus
• 2FM
• 2XM
• Pulse Radio

• TnaG should take control of Film and Children's

• TG4
• RTÉjr (English Language)/Irish Film Channel (Various Lanuages)
• Cula4 (Irish Language)/Pop Music Service
• RTÉjr Radio (English/Irish)
• RnaG
• Radio RiRa

• National Performing Groups
• Montrose becomes National Broadcasting and Studio Centre
• TV3 need to be regulated better but I wouldn't be shutting them down they provide 200 jobs at least.

CageWager

mariano rivera wrote: »

TV3 is an embarrassment to Ireland.

Offering nothing positive to Irish people.

Elaine Crowley's baps

kneemos

If you all think Tv3 is bad what about it's evil twin brother 3eeeeeeeek.

al28283

I feel the same about RTE, terrible station, therefore their license should also be revoked

briany

Stewart Lee mentioned in an interview that Channel 4 produces programming that is made in a spirit of cynicism and contempt for the viewing audience. You could pretty much say the same about 3, only that they're on a smaller budget and their outlook is far more parochial.

al28283

briany wrote: »

Stewart Lee mentioned in an interview that Channel 4 produces programming that is made in a spirit of cynicism and contempt for the viewing audience. You could pretty much say the same about 3, only that they're on a smaller budget and their outlook is far more parochial.

You could say the same thing about RTE

flyswatter

briany wrote: »

Stewart Lee mentioned in an interview that Channel 4 produces programming that is made in a spirit of cynicism and contempt for the viewing audience. You could pretty much say the same about 3, only that they're on a smaller budget and their outlook is far more parochial.

Channel 4 is a good channel though. Excellent at times.

briany

al28283 wrote: »

You could say the same thing about RTE

Yeah RTE's not particularly great either but at least every once in a while they produce something worth watching. What has TV3 ever produced?

If it's a choice between that and TV3/3e with their imports, reality shows and.....that's it, I must side with RTE but it's by no means an enthusiastic choice, just choosing a lesser evil.

flyswatter wrote: »

Channel 4 is a good channel though. Excellent at times.

I don't see that much excellence in their shows but they do occasionally put out a good documentary or produce a good panel show. The problem is there's also a lot of the same old safe reality TV/bodyshock(freak show by another name), bad panel shows, MTV style dramas and American imports. The channel is a far cry from it's original form.

CajunPenguin

decies wrote: »

The news is dire I give you that , get rid of tg4 instead , can't understand Irish and it costs too much.

That's because you didn't bother to learn it. Why would you get rid of the quality broadcasting and keep the awful **** that tries to convince everyone to be a Kardashian and move to Oz?

mike65

Channel 4 is slap in the face to its original remit.

TV3 and 3e are both joke channels by any serious measurement but they serve some sort of purpose to a decent % of the total viewing public. That folks actually like Martin Kings local radio style presentation of the weather is worrying though...

grenache

sdeire wrote: »

And they keep RTÉ on their toes if nothing else.

(I've never been a fan of censorship but Tallafornia/Jersey Shore type programming should, seriosuly, be made illegal for purveying the message that acting like the people in the show do is acceptable in any way.

I don't think they keep RTE on their toes at all. What programme on TV3 (VB Tonight excepted) can rival anything that RTE produce? If its not imported from UK/US, then it's usually home produced lowest common denominator stuff such as Tallafornia or the highly educational Boozy Irish Abroad. TV3 is pure trash tv. They do everything on the cheap. The Ryanair of the television world.

Biggins

Unless stations are breaking the laws, their licences should not be revoked.
Like it or lump it.

To start stopping stations from broadcasting just because someone - not all - doesn't like what they see or hear, maybe because it goes against their very own political party and/or religion, is clear, un-cut state sponsored censorship.

Anyone here to advocate that just because they, in their opinion, thinks a station should be taken off the air, frankly is talking with their head up their ass and spouting related unthought out crap!

darkdubh

decies wrote: »

The news is dire I give you that , get rid of tg4 instead , can't understand Irish and it costs too much.

Ever notice that writing in English at the bottom of the screen on TG4,or can you not read either?

Auvers

ah TV3, when I bought a decent satellite receiver and installed the channel lists for the EPG

next step was TV3 being immediately deleted from my EPG

so problem solved :cool:

goose2005

mariano rivera wrote: »

Yes, I know i can turn it off. Its not the point.

The station may be a private company but it only operates because it has license from the state to broadcast

I am sure there would be a long list of quality applicants if another station licence was available

But why limit the number of stations at all?

Elmo

goose2005 wrote: »

But why limit the number of stations at all?

The main reason to limit the number of channel was due to how much the analogue terrestrial system could handle.

In Europe it was put at 4 to 5 channels.

E.G. Britain's BBC 1, BBC 2, ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5
Ireland's RTÉ 1, RTÉ 2, TV3 and TG4
Sweden's SVT 1, SVT 2, TV4 and I think TV5? (Their TV3 is via Satellite from the UK to avoid Swedish broadcasting rules, this has changed since DTT afaik).
This is the case in most of Europe.

Digital Terrestrial TV allows for more channels on the air, with a small population Ireland could have an extra broadcaster but no more due to the high expense of Broadcasting. TV3 plan TV3 +1, 3Classics, 3Kids, with TG4 planning Cula4 and TG4+1 (both plan HD channels also). In the curent economic climate they look unlikely. Other channels suggested for Saorview are Oireachtas TV and The Irish Film Board Channel. (but seem unlikely).

kneemos

Elmo wrote: »

The main reason to limit the number of channel was due to how much the analogue terrestrial system could handle.

In Europe it was put at 4 to 5 channels.

E.G. Britain's BBC 1, BBC 2, ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5
Ireland's RTÉ 1, RTÉ 2, TV3 and TG4
Sweden's SVT 1, SVT 2, TV4 and I think TV5? (Their TV3 is via Satellite from the UK to avoid Swedish broadcasting rules, this has changed since DTT afaik).
This is the case in most of Europe.

Digital Terrestrial TV allows for more channels on the air, with a small population Ireland could have an extra broadcaster but no more due to the high expense of Broadcasting. TV3 plan TV3 +1, 3Classics, 3Kids, with TG4 planning Cula4 and TG4+1 (both plan HD channels also). In the curent economic climate they look unlikely. Other channels suggested for Saorview are Oireachtas TV and The Irish Film Board Channel. (but seem unlikely).

3 classics?!

briany

Elmo wrote: »

Irish broadcasting needs a complete over hall.

• RTÉ should be given the following radio and television services

• RTÉ 1
• RTÉ News Now
• RTÉ Gold (an archive/arts channel)
• RTÉ Radio 1
• RTÉ Radio 1 extra
• RTÉ Lyric FM
• RTÉ Choice
• RTÉ Gold

• A new semistate commerical broadcaster to be set up with the following TV and Radio services with no Licence fee given too it.

• RTÉ Two
• RTÉ Two Plus
• 2FM
• 2XM
• Pulse Radio

• TnaG should take control of Film and Children's

• TG4
• RTÉjr (English Language)/Irish Film Channel (Various Lanuages)
• Cula4 (Irish Language)/Pop Music Service
• RTÉjr Radio (English/Irish)
• RnaG
• Radio RiRa

• National Performing Groups
• Montrose becomes National Broadcasting and Studio Centre
• TV3 need to be regulated better but I wouldn't be shutting them down they provide 200 jobs at least.

I really like the idea of an arts/archive channel. The SKY arts channel and BBC 4 have a really good line in this. Probably two of the only channels in the whole SKY EPG consistently worth tuning into. I'd just worry whether RTE would have the material to fill it or would it become strictly a best of the Late Late/tradfest?

Would RTE news now be a 24 hour type service or just a red button multiscreen with various looping bulletins? 24 hour news is usually quite tedious and a waste of money except when there's a breaking story. I think that between the internet, SKY, CNN and BBC, any attempt by RTE to have a rolling/on demand news service wouldn't really take off. Perhaps it could have it's day in covering some mad local story, farmer goes on naked shooting spree in Kinnegad but besides that it would be slim pickings.

I'd love to see a joint venture between TnaG and BSnaE to showcase Irish film. There's potentially a lot of good independent/no budget film produced locally that doesn't really get out to the public at large, especially older folk.

kneemos wrote: »

3 classics?!

Yeah, 3 Classics. Y'know, for showing all that classic TV3 programming that we all hold so dear. I'll never forget that *voice cracking* episode of Expose where Glenda Gilson said something about fashion and then they talked about how Brian Ormonde was seen coming out of Lily's at a reasonable hour. We'll never see the like of that quality programming again.

Shea O'Meara

TV3 is a private concern.
Much like RTE, except we pay for RTE. RTE should have it's licence revoked and air an apology for the poor quality due to rampant nepotism since its inception as a last act.