Aer Lingus not flying to Perpignan

Carawaystick

Last Saturday Aer Lingus cancelled the flight dub-pgf and back because of "fog" and again on Tuesday due to adverse weather
However Ryanair landed and took off within an hour of the Aer Lingus scheduled time on Sat and an Aer France flight did same on Tuesday

Are Aer Lingus just fobbing customers off here or is there some reason their planes can't land in the weather other airlines can?

b757

A lot can change within 1 hour in terms of weather in aviation..

Some places could be grand one minute, then maybe 10 min later could be fogged in.. visa versa

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It's because Ryanair have better pilots.......................:P

Jamie2k9

Both flights on Saturday and Tuesday operated to Barcelona so saying the flight was canceled is wrong, it was diverted.

Carawaystick

No flights flew from pgf to Dublin, they were cancelled

Dacian

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Both flights on Saturday and Tuesday operated to Barcelona so saying the flight was canceled is wrong, it was diverted.

Carawaystick wrote: »

No flights flew from pgf to Dublin, they were cancelled

On both days the weather was threatening the operation of the EI510/1 DUB-PGF-DUB. The flights did operate on bot days but were re-routed due to weather concerns.

So obviously EI Flight Ops took the decision to alter the flight so it used BCN instead of PGF, with bus transfers to/from PGF. This was to prevent a late diversion and/or stranding of aircraft and/pax at a location where they could not be flown in/out. This would then have had a domino effect on whatever flight (and customers) the PGF a/c was due to operate later that day.

Thus on both days EI510/1 operated DUB-BCN-DUB rather than the scheduled DUB-PGF-DUB. All passengers would have gotten to their final destination, albeit with delays.

Carawaystick

Dacian wrote: »

On both days the weather was threatening the operation of the EI510/1 DUB-PGF-DUB. The flights did operate on bot days but were re-routed due to weather concerns.

A flight departing from a different city in a different country, at a different time is not the same thing.

Why was the flight re-routed when similar aircraft landed and took off at pgf? no attempts at landing were made?

What were the weather concerns? Were they so much so a 738 could operate but not an airbus?

Or was there some other extra ordinary circumstance which could not have been avoided even if all reasonable measures had been taken?

The reason given on Saturday to passengers at pgf was fog, I wasn't there, but I was given a reliable account that it was no worse than heavy haze, no reason was given on Tuesday.

Again on Saturday in Barcelona, I was reliably told that not all passengers were flown to Dub, as there was not space for them all, on the planes Are Lingus had there then. The people who told me decided to take the flight on Sunday to ORK instead, but intending passengers to DUB had to wait til Sunday too.

Is there any resource which has a record of flights flown, or who would have that info? iaa?

basill

Your post is full of supposition and innuendo. You state clearly that you weren't there but you seem to be overly concerned with the fact that FR got in and AL didn't.

The CEO of a small operator based on the IOM boasted about his ontime performance and his ability to get aircraft onto the Island whilst other airlines diverted. He along with other parties is currently under investigation by the AAIU for a small wee crash which killed 6 people and injured the same again down in Cork.

Go do the research for yourself. Read the NOTAMS see if the ILS was online (Cat 1 only onto R33, circle to land on the other end), get the METARS and TAFS and see what the RVRs and winds were doing during the time that both carriers were scheduled to land and then draw whatever conclusions you wish rather than using guesswork and hoping that someone would post a nice conspiracy theory for you to crow about in your local pub.

Find out the wind as well and check the limits for an B738 versus A320. You might also like to read about sea breezes, high pressure systems and what effects this can have on the weather and how quickly it can all change. A wee hint is if you were around Dublin yesterday at all then you would have noticed how the viz dropped right down for a time.

Bessarion

Carawaystick wrote: »

1: A flight departing from a different city in a different country, at a different time is not the same thing.

2: Why was the flight re-routed when similar aircraft landed and took off at pgf? no attempts at landing were made?

3: What were the weather concerns? Were they so much so a 738 could operate but not an airbus?

4: Or was there some other extra ordinary circumstance which could not have been avoided even if all reasonable measures had been taken?

5: The reason given on Saturday to passengers at pgf was fog, I wasn't there, but I was given a reliable account that it was no worse than heavy haze, no reason was given on Tuesday.

6: Again on Saturday in Barcelona, I was reliably told that not all passengers were flown to Dub, as there was not space for them all, on the planes Are Lingus had there then. The people who told me decided to take the flight on Sunday to ORK instead, but intending passengers to DUB had to wait til Sunday too.

7: Is there any resource which has a record of flights flown, or who would have that info? iaa?

1: Dacian didn't state it was the same thing. He/She explained the possible reasons for the re-routing.

2: EI decided to re-route the flight, ask them.

3: Different a/c, different companies, different operational concerns.

4: Not worth an answer.

5: Was your 'reliable' source familiar with the regional weather forecast at the time? Are they a trained commercial pilot and/or familiar with the Marin wind of the region?

6: Thats strange as 'the PGF A320' went to BCN in addition to the scheduled DUB-BCN flight so there were plenty of seats for everyone booked on all BCN/PGF flights. There was extra capacity out of BCN to deal with the re-routed passengers from PGF. It's not as if it was first come first seated.

7: EI510 DUB-BCN/EI511 BCN-DUB, rather than the scheduled DUB-PGF-DUB.
This was in addition to the normal double daily DUB-BCN-DUB schedule.
So I have explained which flights went where. You can look up flightradar24 if you want to.