cv query- can i or can't i

bonniebeebee

I lost my job a while ago and am now making my CV and applying for jobs. I know a man who works in a company who claims he can get me a job there if I give him my CV. I am a little bit hesitant to give this man my CV as I get a stalkerish vibe from him. He texts me every day and when I met him first he asked me many times if he could pop around to my house for tea. I am a girl in her 20s. Although he is a lovely man I am not rude so cannot tell him to stop contacting me.
Now my question is, I would happily give him my CV if I could leave my address out of it. But If I left my home address out of my CV, would it ruin my chances of getting an interview? What is the address used for?
Alternatively could I change my address slightly. For example, if my address is "Stone lodge, Ballsbridge Road, Dublin 4", would it be okay if I left out the house name and just put "Ballsbridge Road, Dublin 4"
Or lastly, should I put my nanas address or something instead?

Another question: Are u supposed to include ur date of birth in a cv? (I've seen cvs with and without it)

And finally: Would it be ok if I added a year to my cv in
Order to leave out some stupid work (instead of saying I did my leaving cert in 2007, could I say 2008 and move everything on a year or just be honest)

Eoin

bonniebeebee wrote: »

I lost my job a while ago and am now making my CV and applying for jobs. I know a man who works in a company who claims he can get me a job there if I give him my CV. I am a little bit hesitant to give this man my CV as I get a stalkerish vibe from him. He texts me every day and when I met him first he asked me many times if he could pop around to my house for tea. I am a girl in her 20s. Although he is a lovely man I am not rude so cannot tell him to stop contacting me.
Now my question is, I would happily give him my CV if I could leave my address out of it. But If I left my home address out of my CV, would it ruin my chances of getting an interview? What is the address used for?
Alternatively could I change my address slightly. For example, if my address is "Stone lodge, Ballsbridge Road, Dublin 4", would it be okay if I left out the house name and just put "Ballsbridge Road, Dublin 4"
Or lastly, should I put my nanas address or something instead?

I'd say you could leave out your address altogether, and have your email and phone details there instead. They'll only need your address if they need to post out a contract etc.

Do you really want him turning up at your grandmother's address?! And do you want to be working in the same place as him in the first place?

bonniebeebee wrote: »

Another question: Are u supposed to include ur date of birth in a cv? (I've seen cvs with and without it)

No need for DOB.

bonniebeebee wrote: »

And finally: Would it be ok if I added a year to my cv in
Order to leave out some stupid work (instead of saying I did my leaving cert in 2007, could I say 2008 and move everything on a year or just be honest)

You might get away with that, but unusually for an Irish person, I'm inclined to be honest on my CV. You're not expected to be starting a serious career in your first year out of school anyway.

RATM

1.Yes you can just put your address as Ballsbridge, Dublin 4. The phone number though can't be left out and this may be a problem with this man.

If you get the job he is likely to see it as because of his actions and might think you owe him a favour.

Finally there is no need to include a DOB, unless you think your age is an advantage for that particular position and want to send a signal to the employer.

Wishbone Ash

Eoin wrote: »

No need for DOB

RATM wrote: »

there is no need to include a DOB

Generally not required but it is necessary for some occupations where there is a legal requirement for an employee to be above a particular age.

Mrs OBumble

RATM wrote: »

If you get the job he is likely to see it as because of his actions and might think you owe him a favour.

OP, based on what you've said, I'd think very, very hard about this point.

bonniebeebee

JustMary wrote: »

OP, based on what you've said, I'd think very, very hard about this point.

thank you all for your replies. appreciate them all. thank you.
my only worry is the fact that he rings me several times a day without me answering and i rarely text back yet he continues. he is always very polite and friendly when i've met him and i really would love a job and having him with contacts in the company is obviously helpful.

mary what kind of favour? would i in fact owe him? i dont want to feel pressure..

and what do you all think is best regarding the address
1. leave it out altogether
or
2. change it to "ballsbridge, dublin 4" leaving out the house name and road
3. put in my old home address and just say to the employer i forgot to update the address

Eoin

bonniebeebee wrote: »

3. put in my old home address and just say to the employer i forgot to update the address

Not this anyway! That comes across as being badly organised.

Leave it off altogether if a letter sent to a partial address won't get to you.

I am pie

bonniebeebee wrote: »

thank you all for your replies. appreciate them all. thank you.
my only worry is the fact that he rings me several times a day without me answering and i rarely text back yet he continues. he is always very polite and friendly when i've met him and i really would love a job and having him with contacts in the company is obviously helpful.

mary what kind of favour? would i in fact owe him? i dont want to feel pressure..

and what do you all think is best regarding the address
1. leave it out altogether
or
2. change it to "ballsbridge, dublin 4" leaving out the house name and road
3. put in my old home address and just say to the employer i forgot to update the address

What is he asking / saying in his messages? You need to understand what this guy wants before you go any further. If you are working in the same company together and feels spurned or rejected and is 'stalkerish' as you put it, I would be very wary of how he might react.

Proceed with caution !

If you get in the door with company via this guys introduction you do need to clarify the nature of your relationship with him...for his benefit, not yours. He needs to know the boundaries of this relationship, i.e. nothing romantic and not a close friendship.

bonniebeebee

thanks guys. he is sending texts asking how i am how the job search is going to send him my cv he will help me etc. he also said if i ever wanna meet up let him know. he speaks to me like as if we are friends. he'll say "what are you up to?" and i once wrote back and said "i'm just going for a jog now" and he replied "oh i could jog with u i love jogging. im sure youd prefer jog alone haha" stuff like that.
why does it matter what his intentions are though? hypothetically lets say he wanted to get me the job so i would hang out with him. i know 100% i wont ever hang out with him so is it my fault for taking the job? if i take the job its not like he can force me to hang out with him is it??! if he ever says to me i should meet him cos i "owe him" i can just say "oh i thought you were just being kind and helpful but i guess i was wrong" i honestly wouldnt feel bad if he was only helping me for something in return.

at the end of the day i have no intentions with him so whether i get the job or not shouldnt affect anything

jimoc

It it possible that the company offers some kind of finders fee and he just wants you to get a job there so he can get it?

Wishbone Ash

Just wondering:

1. How did he make initial contact with you/get your number etc.?

2. Could you ask him to give the name of the relevant company recruiter/HR dept./boss etc.? Is the company well known? Do they have a website? Could you do some detective work regarding their senior staff?

3. Would giving him your CV in a sealed envelope be a possibility or would you deem it to be too risky? You could write "to be opened by adressee only". If he opened it and got your details, you have an excuse to be annoyed with him and refuse to engage with him because of breach of trust etc..

Eoin

Your contact details would probably be removed if you went through a recruitment agency, so I don't think there's any problem with leaving your address off it altogether. If they need it, they can ask for it once they're dealing directly with you.

Smithey88

Stop me if I am wrong op:

You would like to get a job there. But dont want this man to possibly find out where you live (understandably) But yet, you want to pass on your cv THROUGH him in hopes that it improves your chances of getting the job. As he will put in a good word.

Whilst at the same time you wish this man would cease contact with you as you aint interested (again perfectly understandably) But yet you STILL would like him to help you get that job. Knowing he is into you.

His actions would be classed as a 'fool' ... your actions would be that of a 'user'

OP, when you say the guy can "get you a job" does that mean he can just put in a good word and hope for the best or that he has some influence on the actual hiring of new staff? Because if that's the case wouldn't he be able to access that information anyway (I mean if he turns out to be the HR manager himself or whatever).

Could you not just deliver the CV to the company yourself, and then tell him about it afterwards?

Personally though I would have to say you need to think long and hard about this. The alternative - ie being unemployed - is bad enough, OK, but if this guy creeps you out so badly and makes you feel that uncomfortable do you really want to have him involved in any way with your life?

Not trying to pass judgment on the man or anything, I have no idea who he is or what the circumstances are, but let's say what you describe as a "stalkerish vive" is true then it might not be so easy to get rid of the guy after you let him in. Even if you left the job at some point later.

Just be careful and think about it, that's all.

amen

And finally: Would it be ok if I added a year to my cv in
Order to leave out some stupid work (instead of saying I did my leaving cert in 2007, could I say 2008 and move everything on a year or just be honest)

A bad idea. Speaks to your character as basically you are lying.

In a lot of companies his would be cause for instant dismal as soon as it was found out even after 10 years.

Look at Yahyoos CEO.

Bringbackrafa

Definitely leave out your address. You could just put in Dublin 8. In terms of putting the years back, it is a bit risky but as long as you know your stuff and are covered you should be grand. I'm sure people lie on their CV's all the time. I'm beginning to think I might throw in a few lies I'm that desperate for a proper job

Good luck if you go ahead with the application

the_syco

bonniebeebee wrote: »

i know 100% i wont ever hang out with him

How big is the company? Is it just him and a few others? Did he get your phone number from a CV that you may have put online, or how did he get it?

Because if it's just him and a few others, you could be "coincidently" put on a desk next to him.

Mrs OBumble

bonniebeebee wrote: »

... he rings me several times a day without me answering and i rarely text back yet he continues. ...
mary what kind of favour? would i in fact owe him? i dont want to feel pressure..

That is stalker behaviour.

If he gets you a job that you would not otherwise have got, then he is going to feel like you owe him, no matter what you think.

Consider what you will do/say if:

He says "You're on probation: date me or I'll get you fired".

He starts rumours in the company about you - eg that you're stuck up and need a good b*** slapping, or that you'll ride anything, or that you're dating him in secret, or that you're bi, or ... lots of other lovely possibilities.

He ends up as your direct manager, or at the next desk. Or worse, your manager's colleague and friend. (Your manager has to be nice to you or they can get in trouble: other managers have no such restraints because technically they have no power over you.)


If you're not convinced by us here, why not post over in The Ladies Lounge, and see if anyone there can give you more ideas about what might happen.

Wishbone Ash

amen wrote: »

Look at Yahyoos CEO.

There's a world of difference between claiming to have a degree that you don't have and altering one year on a CV.